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Zero Point Enevery

Do you guys know this Mr. Goldes?

I didn't know he developed the UltraConductor.

This guy really likes to invent sci-fi stuff.
Anyone know much about UltraConductor?

[chuck6877]

Mr Goldes is a great guy.

He's very friendly and taught me a lot about zero point energy even after he found out I didn't meet his investor requirements. We must have emailed each other 10 or more times. He's very excited about his technologies.

I met him from posting on a different chat group related to my career field about zero point energy and Mr Goldes saw what I posted some how and contacted me. He was of course seeing if I wanted to be an investor. I said I wanted to see more info, so he mailed me tons of their plans and the history of his company.

I'd invest if I could but it turns out you have to have a net worth of $1 Million and an annual income of $200,000. Uh not me.

I did learn a ton about his company though.

His company is developing demonstration toys coming out at the end of this year that will be powered by ZPE.

Next year, I think it is, they're going to power a Hybrid vehicle, with ZPE instead of batteries!! THIS WILL BE HUGE

They also plan on creating a mini-powerplant device next year. They see no reason at all they can't make 1 MW power plants from their technology with power at cheaper than any other power source out there.

If anybody is interested in more information, I can give you the information Mr Goldes gave me, or even help you get in contact with Mr Goldes.

His plans include his company going PUBLIC within 2 years.

I just hope his technologies or the technologies from the other dozen companies working on ZPE including Boeing get to market soon before Global resource wars occur.

Chuck

[Dezakin]

You guys cant smell a scam biting you?

It would be nice if this amazing company that produced not one but two products that revolutionize civilization could actually provide evidence of this. Thus far, they havent provided any samples to any third party for verification; Oh they claim they have, to some labs conveniently somewhere off in Russia and Israel, where I'm sure the collaborative staff is indisposed for reasons of nonexistance or some such like.

Be glad you didn't meat his 'investor requirements.'

Hucksterism is having its day again.

[Triffin]

Didn't read most of these posts. Let's just make this real simple: build your widget, put it in a black box if you want, bring it over here and put it in my basement. I'll disconnect from the grid, and if I can still watch TV, then you've got something!

LOL .. Show me one of these inventors that doesn't
still have an electric bill from the local utility
and I'll pay attention ..

Triff

[ChumpusRex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')IFNET’s Technology Developments
Nicholas Moller, President of GIFNET, is known for creating the Moller Atomic Hydrogen Generator (MAHG), which is fully based on Irving Langmuir's discoveries in dissosiation of Molecular Hydrogen to Atomic Hydrogen.

[JudoCow09]

Well, I'm still interested. I would love to talk to this guy sometime.

[Overtone]

"It would be nice if this amazing company that produced not one but two products that revolutionize civilization could actually provide evidence of this. Thus far, they havent provided any samples to any third party for verification; Oh they claim they have, to some labs conveniently somewhere off in Russia and Israel, where I'm sure the collaborative staff is indisposed for reasons of nonexistance or some such like."

Ultraconductors have been independently reproduced on a Contract for the USAF by Fractal Systems. Samples have been provided to third parties over a period of more than a decade. Four Small Business Innovation Contracts have been completed for the Department of Defense, including one Phase II Contract. In addition, more than $5 million has been invested by Angels. For more information, see the website: www.ultraconductors.com

[Overtone]

We are indeed developing prototype Demonstration Devices and toys. However, production will be by licensees and is not anticipated until late next year.

Magnetic Power Modules(tm) are expected to be in production by a Strategic Partner about the same time. The initial target size is 1 kW. Several modules can be used to power a home.

By the end of 2006, we plan to remove the need to plug-in a plug-in hybrid Prius. The plug supplies 1 kW and a module should be a reasonable replacement. But, this will not replace the batteries.

Perhaps by the end of 2007, a 50 kW module will replace the engine in a hybrid. Some batteries or ultracapacitors could still be needed for acceleration or hill climbing, but maybe not. Time will tell.

Mark Goldes, CEO

[richardmmm]

It's really simply.

The earth weighs 5.9742 × 10E24 kilograms (m)

The earth travels 940 million km around the sun every 365 days.

So every day, the earth travels about 2.4 million km, which is 100,000km/h = 27,777 meters per second. (V)

Kinetic Energy = 0.5 x m x Vsquared

0.5 x (5.9742 × 10E24 kilograms) x (27,777)squared

= 2.304 x 10E33 Joules

Burning 1 gallon of gasoline at 100% efficency yields about 140,000,000 joules.

But the average car is only 20% efficient.

So if the earth was a petrol engine it would be burning

82,285,714,285,714,285 trillion gallons of gas per second.

and that only accounts for the earth's motion around the sun, not's it's spin or the motion of the solar system within the galaxy or any other planets.

The earth carries on spinning at incredible speeds, not only spinning on it's axis but also travelling millions of miles a year around the sun. The whole solar system itself, at the same time travelling around the centre of the galaxy.............Where does all this vast amount of energy come from to move huge masses billions of miles ? It comes from the vacum of course................where else could it come from, there is no possible explanation.


1.) Science does not know everything that there is to know. So ZPE is most likely is a viable technology we can see it all around us in the universe. Infact it is more common outside planet earth than it is uncommon. The Earth must be shielding us in some way from this source. We need a means to tap into it.

2.) There is no way to charge people for this technology, once they have the gear they are off............electric motors need little servicing, not only killing off oil companies, but also putting GM, Ford etc. out of business with all those dealer certified yearly services. (why do you think that metro taxis etc. don't run on electricity and charge up every evening ?. Take the petrol motor out of a hybrid and put in extra batteries and you have a vehicle with good capacity. OK it is limited but for taxies and commuters it is perfect.............reason.................no servicing required, so almost zero residual income.)

3. )ZPE is a military threat. Imagine Hitler with ZPE tanks and airplanes. We'd still be fighting WW2 today.

4.) Back in the early 1900s vast amounts of money were spent investing in oil production and electrical generation and it was in no one's interest to realease this free technology. It got burried as a cranky idea.

Sure there are many hoaxes and rip offs out there, they simply serve to perpetuate the belief that ZPE is a myth.

However consider that our science is not complete and is flawed and that Scientists freely admit that they need at least 3 or 4 more dimensions to unify quantum physics with relativity.

Consider then that you come to my lab and I show you a wheel that constanly spins. I explain to you that the wheel remains in motion due to an energy differential between the fixed axel of the wheel and it's outer most edge. You huff and puff about how this is a perpetual motion machine and violates the stogey laws of thermodynamics that you have taken on board as the dogmatic and relgious scientific belief of the day.

None the less the wheel keeps spinning, violating the laws of therodynamics.

The axel is mounted in the floor and half the wheel disappears under the lab, so we go to have a look underneath so I can show you how the energy differential is generated. In fact the system that taken in isolation violates laws of physics, is a simple water wheel, dipped into the river that is flowing under my lab.

Now consider a more complicated piece of technology dipped into the motion and ether of the 5th or 6th dimension.

It's not hard to imagine at all.

To a man with only a hammer - every problem seems like a nail........

[threadbear]

Richardmmm--Beauty!

[lowem]

So ... what do we do when the aliens from the other universe start to complain we've been changing their physical laws?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves

[richardmmm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', 'S')o ... what do we do when the aliens from the other universe start to complain we've been changing their physical laws?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves

[Caoimhan]

The Hoover dam doesn't consume or destroy water, so the people downstream are not losing any water at all. In fact, dams help buffer against natural floods during extremely rainy seasons. Only while the dam is filling up are people downstream experiencing a reduction in flow.

It's when you pump the contents of the Colorado river to Los Angeles that the people downstream on the Colorado cheated of water.

(By the way, the word is "magnet".)

We can tap into the earth's magneticism... proposals have been made. But the key is that you have to pass a conductor through the magnetic lines of force swiftly enough. You could put a satellite up with long metal cables, and set it spinning, that would generate electricity, but the resistance on the cable would slow down the spin. How do you keep the cables spinning?

[Brandon]

"The Hoover dam doesn't consume"

Well technically it does consume a little bit due to absorbtion into the earth behind the dam and through evaporation. Don't know how much, but I'm sure it's measurable.

No update yet on the Moller Atomic Hydrogen Gas Generator about the questionable measurements when using pulsed power. From my viewpoint, it looks like Naudin messed up and there is no ZPE from his device.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aH-gen/

http://www.gifnet.ch/lab/mahg/index.htm

[richardmmm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SolarDave', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'Z')PE is the most prevasive force in the universe and it has an effect on everything..

[Googolplex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('richardmmm', 'T')he earth carries on spinning at incredible speeds, not only spinning on it's axis but also travelling millions of miles a year around the sun. The whole solar system itself, at the same time travelling around the centre of the galaxy.............Where does all this vast amount of energy come from to move huge masses billions of miles ? It comes from the vacum of course................where else could it come from, there is no possible explanation.

[richardmmm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Googolplex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('richardmmm', 'T')he earth carries on spinning at incredible speeds, not only spinning on it's axis but also travelling millions of miles a year around the sun. The whole solar system itself, at the same time travelling around the centre of the galaxy.............Where does all this vast amount of energy come from to move huge masses billions of miles ? It comes from the vacum of course................where else could it come from, there is no possible explanation.

[Googolplex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('richardmmm', 'i') therefore don't think that you can rule out ZP energy from the vacum just because a frictionless envrionment apparently explains how planets and suns wizz about through space.

[Omnitir]

Sounds a bit too spacey (as in it’s like something from Star Trek) for me to get my hopes up about.

Zero Point Energy? Isn’t that what the ancients used to power the Star Gate with???



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Overtone', '
')We are indeed developing prototype Demonstration Devices and toys. However, production will be by licensees and is not anticipated until late next year.

Magnetic Power Modules(tm) are expected to be in production by a Strategic Partner about the same time. The initial target size is 1 kW. Several modules can be used to power a home.

By the end of 2006, we plan to remove the need to plug-in a plug-in hybrid Prius. The plug supplies 1 kW and a module should be a reasonable replacement. But, this will not replace the batteries.

Perhaps by the end of 2007, a 50 kW module will replace the engine in a hybrid. Some batteries or ultracapacitors could still be needed for acceleration or hill climbing, but maybe not. Time will tell.

Mark Goldes, CEO

[chuck6877]

Omnitir,

It almost sounds too good to be true, for sure. There are over 12 companies researching it including two defense contractors for the government.

You quoted Mark Goldes, who is the CEO of one of the best of the ZPE companies.

Soon enough we'll know if it is b.s. or the real thing. His company is going to have demonstration devices for the world to see at the end of this year.

Let's hope they work!!

Chuck