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Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby rogerhb » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:21:12

Seeing as we have lots of questions of firearms,... how about swords?

If you want a sword to last, I presume you would not want a chromed one as continually sharpening it is going to wear back the chroming, but then you have the problem with rust.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby backstop » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:30:33

are we talking of rapiers, sabres, cutlasses or what here ?

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PS Fat lot of use swords are for getting rabbits for the pot !
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby rogerhb » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:38:58

In theory type wouldn't matter, the chroming issue would apply no matter the type. I was thinking of the standard "British Army Infantry Sword" which is straight with a basket hilt.

Sabres are normally used from horseback with a sharp point for the charge and curved for slashing as you go past.

Cutlasses are a navy weapon for a melee in a confined space.

Rapiers/epees are fine for fencing but far too delicate.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby BrownDog » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:42:44

A chrome plated edge weapon would be an ornament, IMO.

As an aside, chrome plating is quite nasty to the environment.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby rogerhb » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:45:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BrownDog', 'A') chrome plated edge weapon would be an ornament, IMO


I think the term you are looking for is "for ceremonial use only".
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby backstop » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:48:56

An old friend of mine, while boating on a quiet country canal, did once get a swan with a sabre - one clean swipe - and then had hell's delight in getting hold of it - but it tasted of the bottom of the canal so he ended up wishing he hadn't.

Sabre wasn't chromed as far as I know.

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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby BrownDog » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 21:48:57

Perhaps. Hara Kiri is ceremonial, technically speaking. ;)
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Specop_007 » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 22:15:01

Make sure you dont get a wall hanger, or it wont matter if its chromed or not.
Personally, i wouldnt mess with chrome. Proper sword steel is just that, proper sword steel. You dont want to ruin the qualities of a good blade for showmanship.
And good blades are not cheap, not by any stretch. I could buy another AR for what I'd spend on a good sword.
Theres also some budget swords which are still very usable. Names elude me at this point.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Jack » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 22:27:30

Good swords need not be expensive...

Cold Steel

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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Specop_007 » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 22:40:38

Here we go, ran a Search on Brain. :-D

Angel Sword

Albion Sword

Swords online
I've been told the Miyamoto Musashi blade is a quality blade.

Kris Cutlery I've heard these are a good value in blades.

Star Fire swords

Atrima

Himilayan Imports

Theres also a few really good sword forums, I recommend spending some time reading through them.
Sword forum

Blade forum

Sword Forum bugei
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Specop_007 » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 22:42:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'G')ood swords need not be expensive...

Cold Steel

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I like Cold Steel knives myself.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Jack » Sun 11 Sep 2005, 23:44:12

No list would be complete without an entry for Chrise Reeve knives - Link
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby gego » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 00:19:25

If you are looking for a good hand to hand combat weapon, check out the flea markets for a good heavy meat cleaver. Holds a good sharp edge, just a little oil keeps away the rust, and is a nasty little weapon that does not require a lot of training.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Chocky » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 02:35:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')eeing as we have lots of questions of firearms,... how about swords?


If you hate guns too much to own one but aren't so stupid that you think you won't ever need a weapon, try an aluminium baseball bat.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Dukat_Reloaded » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 06:06:44

At army surplus stores, they sell throwing knives a pack of 10 for acouple of bucks each one with a different colour handle. Could be worthwhile if you have time to learn to throw knives as you can kill a target from a distance and then pickup the knife again, kinda like a gun but with unlimited ammo and quiet.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Carmiac » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 06:58:15

I'm one of those medieval recreation guys who practices fully armored swordplay every week, and I would have to recommend against using a sword as anything but a weapon of last resort.

First, a gun beats a sword any day. Period.
Second, someone carrying around a sword is going to attract a heck of a lot of attention and, Highlander aside, it isn't exactly easy to conceal a sword.
Third, using a sword, any sword, any style, requires a heck of a lot more skill than you think. You will need to put a lot of effort into training.
Fourth, getting a hold of a well made, well balanced live steel sword is rather tricky. There are a lot of crappy imitations out there and precious few smiths that know enough about what makes a good sword to actually make one. No one mass producing swords makes one that I would feel comfortable using in a real fight. No one.

If you are looking for a servicable weapon to carry around without attracting too much attention, think about the aforementioned aluminium baseball bat, a hardwood staff or even a 6' piece of small diameter pipe, like electrical conduit.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Doly » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 07:07:16

What about throwable knives? They're reasonably small to carry without attracting attention and they have a much larger range than swords. Plus, they probably make good carving knives as well, which you can't say of swords. :razz:
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Carmiac » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 07:13:15

Heh, reminds me of a wedding I was at. A large wall decoration sword was used to cut the cake.

Anyway, throwing knives are nice, as are throwing axes, which I prefer, but be prepared to spend quite a bit of time practicing before you can hit something reliably.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Z » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 07:23:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carmiac', 'A')nyway, throwing knives are nice, as are throwing axes, which I prefer, but be prepared to spend quite a bit of time practicing before you can hit something reliably.


Yes, but what about catapults ? :) Yeah, never mind ...
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?

Postby Specop_007 » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 07:35:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carmiac', 'I')'m one of those medieval recreation guys who practices fully armored swordplay every week, and I would have to recommend against using a sword as anything but a weapon of last resort.

First, a gun beats a sword any day. Period.
Second, someone carrying around a sword is going to attract a heck of a lot of attention and, Highlander aside, it isn't exactly easy to conceal a sword.
Third, using a sword, any sword, any style, requires a heck of a lot more skill than you think. You will need to put a lot of effort into training.
Fourth, getting a hold of a well made, well balanced live steel sword is rather tricky. There are a lot of crappy imitations out there and precious few smiths that know enough about what makes a good sword to actually make one. No one mass producing swords makes one that I would feel comfortable using in a real fight. No one.

If you are looking for a servicable weapon to carry around without attracting too much attention, think about the aforementioned aluminium baseball bat, a hardwood staff or even a 6' piece of small diameter pipe, like electrical conduit.


Not so fast there high speed.
First off, a sword doesnt take bullets. You wont run out of ammo until you run out of steam with a sword. A sword also doesnt have to be loaded, and it doesnt jam. Your sword wont just suddenly stop working midswing and hang in the air. A gun can jam up on you and leave you high and dry.

A sword has zero moving parts to break and wear out (unless you count your arm).

A sword has a certain level of intimidation not found in guns. Yes guns are intimidating, but a sword has a certain presence about it that only the scariest of assault rifles has. Something about a big sword just quietly says "Do not fuck with me".

Otherwise though, I agree. However, a sword would have its uses and I wouldnt rule it out altogether.

That said, 45 Aye-Cee-Pee trumps kendo any day of the week.
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