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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby backstop » Tue 06 Sep 2005, 08:34:00

Falser -

Your confusion of China's membership of the UN (which, as a permanent member of the security council it has enjoyed as long as I can remember) appears to arise from the Wikepedia lousy entry over Taiwan's status.

I suggest you try to burn your copy of Wilkepedia.

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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby Chicagoan » Tue 06 Sep 2005, 10:12:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('backstop', 'C')hicagoan -

I can't say I spare time to study the arcane organizations you cite, but in one thing I can say for a fact you are just plain wrong.

Cheyney's glove-puppet Bush is definitely not a close cousin of the British and the Dutch royal families.

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Bush is not as royal as Kerry, but he is related to the royal family.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/ ... oyal.reut/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')But both candidates [in the 2004 election] have a remarkable number of royal connections and both are related to (Britain's) Queen Elizabeth," he added.
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby backstop » Tue 06 Sep 2005, 11:53:05

Chicagoan -

If you make a bit of a study of genealogy, you'll quickly realize how many tens of thousands of people could trace a relationship of some degree with a family for whom the recorded ancestry goes back over 900 years.

You are also entirely mistaken in thinking that such remote relationships imply even the remotest involvement of the British royal family in the corruption president Bush has encouraged.

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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby falser » Tue 06 Sep 2005, 12:07:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('backstop', 'F')alser -

Your confusion of China's membership of the UN (which, as a permanent member of the security council it has enjoyed as long as I can remember) appears to arise from the Wikepedia lousy entry over Taiwan's status.

I suggest you try to burn your copy of Wilkepedia.


Ah okay it appears so. But regardless I do not think trade between two countries has anything to do with the UN.
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby Chicagoan » Wed 07 Sep 2005, 15:39:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('backstop', 'C')hicagoan -

If you make a bit of a study of genealogy, you'll quickly realize how many tens of thousands of people could trace a relationship of some degree with a family for whom the recorded ancestry goes back over 900 years.

You are also entirely mistaken in thinking that such remote relationships imply even the remotest involvement of the British royal family in the corruption president Bush has encouraged.

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I am not making this up. Bush's royal bloodline has been documented by people who study these things. The elite are all related to each other. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/08/294770.shtml Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off the throne -- including the King of Albania -- and has kinship with every member of Britain's royal family, the House of Windsor. He is a 13th cousin of Queen Elizabeth and is a 13th cousin once removed of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles.

Bush's family tree can be documented as far back as the early 15th century. He has a direct descent from Henry III and from Henry VIII's sister Mary Tudor, who was also the wife of Louis XI of France. He is also descended from Charles II of England.


Cecil Rhodes and his associates spent their entire lives conspiring for world government. Now it is a fact. You should study the organizations I have mentioned. There are many books on the New World Order, but I would start with the Naked Capitalist. I should have titled this thread "get the US out of the World Government." The UN is just one small part of it.

Wars are a result of a fault in man. You cannot stop them. World government cannot bring peace any more then the British Empire brought peace. Rather, it brings global tyranny. That is all I have to say to you right now. Continue to prepare for the worst. They want two thirds of us to be dead, and they are prepared to do it. Over 40 microbiologists have died in recent years. Coincidence?
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby Macsporan » Wed 07 Sep 2005, 21:23:22

Well, sorry to be unfashionable again, but I think we need a world government to round up and corral the Corporations whose manipulations and greed are plunging humanity into a new Dark Age.

A World Government will be especially useful if we are to escape PO with a whole skin.

If this makes some patriotic Americans bristle, well guess what, America is only 5% of the planet.

You'll just have to swallow hard and stop being so self-absorbed. :)
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby Chicagoan » Thu 08 Sep 2005, 20:43:36

If Godzilla was attacking my city, I would not want to get King Kong to stop him. They are both mosters. I tend to trust neither.
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 09 Sep 2005, 02:57:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SHiFTY', 'T')he US could indeed exit the UN... if it was at all self sufficient.

As it stands, the US relies very heavily on the rest of the world. For example, oil from M.E., vast quantities of cheap goods from China, computer programmers from india, cheap loans from Japan & S. Korea, Uranium from Australia, luxury goods from Europe and so on.
Natural gas, oil and lumber/plywood (to rebuild NO & Gulf coast until the next hurricane) from Canada. Oil from Venezuela. Loans from China also.
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby falser » Fri 09 Sep 2005, 12:30:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Macsporan', 'W')ell, sorry to be unfashionable again, but I think we need a world government to round up and corral the Corporations whose manipulations and greed are plunging humanity into a new Dark Age.


The thing is, the neo-cons are planning for the US to be the World Government - the only government left standing after the Great Depression #2, and the only country with access to energy resources during the 2nd Dark Age (post-peak). I think the UN, NATO, NAFTA, and WTO are on the same list as N. Korea, Iran, and China. And I have a sad feeling the American public will go along with it on the fabricated fear of terrorism.

(okay, enough of my tinfoil hat theories for one day)
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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby backstop » Fri 09 Sep 2005, 12:50:22

MacS -

I entirely concur over the need for world government. I have to repeat government, which is about democratic representation, as opposed to world dictat, by politicos serving corporatist shareholder profiteering.

This appears to be about the democratization of the General Assembly (that has all nations' reps seated) and its elevation above the so-called security council (whose 5 perm. veto members happen to be the 5 biggest arms-dealers . . . )

Sadly, getting from here to there looks like going through an utter US collapse for enough US people to recognize the need . . .

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Re: Get the US out of the UN

Unread postby Chicagoan » Fri 09 Sep 2005, 14:13:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')adly, getting from here to there looks like going through an utter US collapse


Which the globalists within our own government have engineered...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ho are ‘they’ and what do ‘they’ want?

What's it all about? The New World Order is not a 'conspiracy' in the strictest sense of the term - it is an agenda. The agenda is orchestrated by a power elite that thinks it has the divine right to commandeer total control of your life.
But who are 'they'? Who are the 'power elite'? The UN, the EU, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Club of Rome. The list goes on and there have been many books written that cover the history of these groups and how they connect to each other. The intention of this book is to highlight how their unified agenda manifests itself in modern day developments with particular attention paid to the Hegelian Dialectic. To research these groups and their unified agenda is to understand who really controls your destiny and where this planet is heading, unless we speak out against the agenda itself.

The agenda is a worldwide consolidation and centralization of power into the hands of an all-encompassing World Government. This system will evolve from the European Union, (already in place) the American Union, (derived from NAFTA) and the Asian Union. When these three models are in existence, they will be merged together to create the One World Government.

The society and control mechanisms they are manufacturing to 'compliment' this World Government combine the most extreme aspects of communism and fascism, mixed with a nightmare Orwellian technocracy. Specifically (and in no particular order): a microchipped population; a world army; a world centralized banking system; the utter destruction of all national identity and pride; the destruction of all religion except their own 'world religion'; the ability to control each and every person through means of mind control (interlocked with the microchip); to bring an end to all industrialization; to seize control of the environmental movement at the top of the power structure and use it for the purposes of continental land-grabs; to initiate a program of population control (via warfare, vaccination, starvation and diseases) whereby 80% are 'terminated'; to encourage and eventually legalize the use of drugs and to make pornography and other expressions of hedonism an 'art form'; to suppress all scientific development except that which aids their agenda (an example being cold fusion and other technologies that would end our dependency on fossil fuels); to demoralize humanity and breed culture to become more and more decadent (meaning when the sick and absurd becomes acceptable) - this is achieved via drugs, pornography, mindless television, degenerate rock, pop, rap, hip-hop music, among a host of others; to encourage multiculturalism, immigration, and to brand anyone who opposes these issues as 'racist'; to make pedophilia, rape and sexual conquests acceptable and respectable; to cause total collapse of the world's economies and engender political chaos; to penetrate and subvert all governments and coerce them into destroying their country's national sovereignty; to take control of education in the developed world with the intention of suppressing non-consensus information and pushing left-wing, liberal, socialistic viewpoints (Socialism masquerades as a movement of the downtrodden masses but is in fact clearly an attempt at consolidating wealth and power by the elite); to use terrorism or 'scareorrism' as a means of gaining the consent of the public, who which actually support this agenda and give up their basic rights if it is presented as the solution to terrorism.

There are many caveat goals within this agenda that fall under the umbrella of those mentioned above. You will notice many of these goals have already been achieved.

Ways in which to defeat the agenda are covered later in this book but the main one is simply to know what the agenda is and tell others how it directly affects them. This will stir people from their apathy and make them realize they are under attack. Their survival mechanism will kick in, they will become educated on the issues and they will wake their fellow human. Remember - those who fought and died for freedom in the American Revolution only had 5% of the population on their side. To avoid having to die for freedom, we need to win the war of information.


Page two of "Order out of Chaos" by Paul Watson. I completely agree with his analysis. For those of you who think the world government will be democratic, you are mistaken. Our founding fathers warned us about getting too involved in international affairs. If only we had listened...
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