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by Armageddon » Sat 21 May 2005, 17:28:01
good point. he also doesnt believe the holecost ever happened. what an idiot on that matter. pictures and videos dont lie.
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"Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by KevO » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 08:10:18
This is from David Icke's email list (you must Google David Icke, we in the UK are very familar with him but the US will go What? - anyway he has a large cult following)
What do we think of these comments? he will easily be able to get them into the mainstream media as he is often featured in national newspapers and main TV shows
from
http://www.rense.com/general67/PRICE.HTM
is
The Lies To Hike The Price Of Oil
A more appropriate title for this piece would have been "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
Admittedly the hardest part of observing the unfolding of a prearranged history is connecting the dots. More to the point, to be able to see how all things are connected and work in concert to achieve a desired goal.
So I'd like to throw some things out that the public at large doesn't know and never would. What I am about to tell is common knowledge in oil circles but the worker ants at the bottom of the pyramid never question what they see. I was an eye witness to what I am going to relate and there are a good many others who could come forward if only they will.
In 2000, I worked in the Gulf of Mexico for two different OSV companies that provided support services to the "oil patch". The two companies did very different work for the oil companies so I got to get an eye full.
The first thing that I'd like to expose is the fact that nearly all of the new wells in the gulf are immediately capped off and forgotten about. I saw well after well brought in only to see them capped off and left. Oil or natural gas it didn't matter. I asked a couple of petroleum engineers what exactly was going on and I was told by both (they worked for different companies) that there was no intention of bringing that oil to market until the "price was right".
That wasn't the only bogus thing that was happening. Seismic technology had developed to the point that they could not only tell the companies where the oil was but how much oil was there. All they had to do was go out and stick a straw in and suck it out. They didn't. Once again, the oil prices weren't right. When they are ready and want it they know right where to go get it.
Another lie I'd like to lay to rest is the one about all of the "terrible damage" done to the oil platforms and rigs in the gulf during hurricanes. This is how they justify the price spikes that occur because of lost production. If anyone cared to see this for themselves they could travel the entire Gulf of Mexico in search of destroyed oil rigs and they won't find any- not one. There is a damed good reason that this is so and that reason is that they are built so well that a hurricane can't touch them.
Think about it . If you're going to build something in an area where you are guaranteed to see 150-180 mph winds, storm swells up to 60-80 feet and it will happen year after year, how would you build them? Out of chicken wire and duct tape? Hell no and they don't. The platforms are designed to offer almost no wind resistance and the majority of platforms are at least 120 feet above the water level. They are built so well that several of them have suffered direct hits by watercraft of all sizes with little harm. They were damaged but they were far from destroyed.
The reason that I know how well they are constructed is because for awhile I worked with a company that salvaged derelict oil rigs. When the wells ran dry and the oil companies didn't need them any more the company that I worked for would buy them, take them apart, haul them back to land, refurbish and then resell them. It is an incredible process to take these things apart because they are constructed so
well.
I've worked on the boats that hauled explosives to the job sites to speed the disassembly process.
Another lie regards the "burp" in the supply line. Oil companies are as stingy as any on earth and one of the ways that they cut costs is to eliminate the number of people that they need on a rig to keep it running. Most active wells are totally automated and require almost no human intervention. The oil companies have guys that travel from rig to rig via helicopter to check on things periodically but most never see
a human on them unless something goes wrong or some maintenance is needed.
During a hurricane about the only rigs that need to be evacuated are the drill rigs that have workers on them. The active wells and pumping stations are controlled by remote control from the shore and if it weren't for the evacuation of land based personnel from areas where there is danger from the hurricanes these things could continue to pump right through the worst hurricane.
So, regarding a burp in the supply chain there shouldn't be one and that is because most of the oil from the Gulf of Mexico goes to the refinerys at Port Arthur or other points in Texas and the tankers from the middle east go to Galveston to offload.
When oil moves across the Atlantic during hurricane season the tanker traffic may have to kill some time to let a storm get ahead of them but once it does they haul ass right behind it. Anyone who has seen how fast an oil tanker can move in open water will tell you that they don't dawdle around. Most of them can move around 30-40 knots and for a ship that size that baby is moving on. The only reason they would have to
kill any more time would be if a hurricane suddenly changed course and was headed for Galveston. So far this year that hasn't happened. So why the "break" in supply?
Everything that we hear about oil from the oil companies is a big fat lie. Have we hit "peak oil" as a good many insist that we have? I'll make a wager with anyone who would care to take the bet. I bet that when oil hits $100 a barrel (I have a hunch that's the target price) there will be no shortage. Any takers?
One of the most astounding things to watch when the elite swing into action is what I call conservation of movement. If you had three events that you wanted to set into motion you could apply the necessary pressure separately to all three to get them moving. Or you could do what these guys do and wait patiently until you see the right opportunity to apply the pressure in only one spot that will move the other two with the momentum from the first. The difference is whether something is pushed or pulled along. It"s as graceful as a ballet to watch in motion. No wasted motion, no wasted energy, it would almost be a thing of beauty if it weren't for the rotten purposes behind it all.
So for all of the kiddies that are waiting for their draft notices I would say don't bother, I don't think that there will be a draft. They won't need one. Since the all volunteer military came into being recruitment has always had an inverse relationship to the economy. The better the economy the harder it is to get recruits. We're facing a winter season in North America that may see heating costs equal to a family's house payment. If our weather is being controlled expect it to be a bad one. With $100 dollar a barrel oil on the horizon and the ensuing loss of jobs because of energy costs the military will be one of the only places a young man or woman will be able to eat on a regular basis and keep a roof over their heads.
The beltway fascists have said all along that there would be no draft because they wouldn't need one. Don't you have to wonder how they knew this (what is it you say- just a coincidence nothing to worry about)? God does work in mysterious ways. The neocons need cannon fodder for their war machine and lo and behold mysterious market forces drop it on their doorstep.
For another coincidence take a look at Social Security here in the US.Amazing how the price of oil began a sudden rise when it became apparent that the American people weren't going to allow their retirement money to be "privatized". When the carrot didn't work the stick wasn't far behind.
What do we think of these comments? he will easily be able to get them into the mainstream media as he is often featured in national newspapers and main TV shows
from
http://www.rense.com/general67/PRICE.HTM
is
The Lies To Hike The Price Of Oil
A more appropriate title for this piece would have been "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
Admittedly the hardest part of observing the unfolding of a prearranged history is connecting the dots. More to the point, to be able to see how all things are connected and work in concert to achieve a desired goal.
So I'd like to throw some things out that the public at large doesn't know and never would. What I am about to tell is common knowledge in oil circles but the worker ants at the bottom of the pyramid never question what they see. I was an eye witness to what I am going to relate and there are a good many others who could come forward if only they will.
In 2000, I worked in the Gulf of Mexico for two different OSV companies that provided support services to the "oil patch". The two companies did very different work for the oil companies so I got to get an eye full.
The first thing that I'd like to expose is the fact that nearly all of the new wells in the gulf are immediately capped off and forgotten about. I saw well after well brought in only to see them capped off and left. Oil or natural gas it didn't matter. I asked a couple of petroleum engineers what exactly was going on and I was told by both (they worked for different companies) that there was no intention of bringing that oil to market until the "price was right".
That wasn't the only bogus thing that was happening. Seismic technology had developed to the point that they could not only tell the companies where the oil was but how much oil was there. All they had to do was go out and stick a straw in and suck it out. They didn't. Once again, the oil prices weren't right. When they are ready and want it they know right where to go get it.
Another lie I'd like to lay to rest is the one about all of the "terrible damage" done to the oil platforms and rigs in the gulf during hurricanes. This is how they justify the price spikes that occur because of lost production. If anyone cared to see this for themselves they could travel the entire Gulf of Mexico in search of destroyed oil rigs and they won't find any- not one. There is a damed good reason that this is so and that reason is that they are built so well that a hurricane can't touch them.
Think about it . If you're going to build something in an area where you are guaranteed to see 150-180 mph winds, storm swells up to 60-80 feet and it will happen year after year, how would you build them? Out of chicken wire and duct tape? Hell no and they don't. The platforms are designed to offer almost no wind resistance and the majority of platforms are at least 120 feet above the water level. They are built so well that several of them have suffered direct hits by watercraft of all sizes with little harm. They were damaged but they were far from destroyed.
The reason that I know how well they are constructed is because for awhile I worked with a company that salvaged derelict oil rigs. When the wells ran dry and the oil companies didn't need them any more the company that I worked for would buy them, take them apart, haul them back to land, refurbish and then resell them. It is an incredible process to take these things apart because they are constructed so
well.
I've worked on the boats that hauled explosives to the job sites to speed the disassembly process.
Another lie regards the "burp" in the supply line. Oil companies are as stingy as any on earth and one of the ways that they cut costs is to eliminate the number of people that they need on a rig to keep it running. Most active wells are totally automated and require almost no human intervention. The oil companies have guys that travel from rig to rig via helicopter to check on things periodically but most never see
a human on them unless something goes wrong or some maintenance is needed.
During a hurricane about the only rigs that need to be evacuated are the drill rigs that have workers on them. The active wells and pumping stations are controlled by remote control from the shore and if it weren't for the evacuation of land based personnel from areas where there is danger from the hurricanes these things could continue to pump right through the worst hurricane.
So, regarding a burp in the supply chain there shouldn't be one and that is because most of the oil from the Gulf of Mexico goes to the refinerys at Port Arthur or other points in Texas and the tankers from the middle east go to Galveston to offload.
When oil moves across the Atlantic during hurricane season the tanker traffic may have to kill some time to let a storm get ahead of them but once it does they haul ass right behind it. Anyone who has seen how fast an oil tanker can move in open water will tell you that they don't dawdle around. Most of them can move around 30-40 knots and for a ship that size that baby is moving on. The only reason they would have to
kill any more time would be if a hurricane suddenly changed course and was headed for Galveston. So far this year that hasn't happened. So why the "break" in supply?
Everything that we hear about oil from the oil companies is a big fat lie. Have we hit "peak oil" as a good many insist that we have? I'll make a wager with anyone who would care to take the bet. I bet that when oil hits $100 a barrel (I have a hunch that's the target price) there will be no shortage. Any takers?
One of the most astounding things to watch when the elite swing into action is what I call conservation of movement. If you had three events that you wanted to set into motion you could apply the necessary pressure separately to all three to get them moving. Or you could do what these guys do and wait patiently until you see the right opportunity to apply the pressure in only one spot that will move the other two with the momentum from the first. The difference is whether something is pushed or pulled along. It"s as graceful as a ballet to watch in motion. No wasted motion, no wasted energy, it would almost be a thing of beauty if it weren't for the rotten purposes behind it all.
So for all of the kiddies that are waiting for their draft notices I would say don't bother, I don't think that there will be a draft. They won't need one. Since the all volunteer military came into being recruitment has always had an inverse relationship to the economy. The better the economy the harder it is to get recruits. We're facing a winter season in North America that may see heating costs equal to a family's house payment. If our weather is being controlled expect it to be a bad one. With $100 dollar a barrel oil on the horizon and the ensuing loss of jobs because of energy costs the military will be one of the only places a young man or woman will be able to eat on a regular basis and keep a roof over their heads.
The beltway fascists have said all along that there would be no draft because they wouldn't need one. Don't you have to wonder how they knew this (what is it you say- just a coincidence nothing to worry about)? God does work in mysterious ways. The neocons need cannon fodder for their war machine and lo and behold mysterious market forces drop it on their doorstep.
For another coincidence take a look at Social Security here in the US.Amazing how the price of oil began a sudden rise when it became apparent that the American people weren't going to allow their retirement money to be "privatized". When the carrot didn't work the stick wasn't far behind.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by gg3 » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 08:27:40
"If our weather is being controlled..."
That's enough to get the red "skepticism" light flashing on my switchboard, and the "BS" alarm hooting in the control room.
That's enough to get the red "skepticism" light flashing on my switchboard, and the "BS" alarm hooting in the control room.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by julianj » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 08:47:22
Just to put this into perspective, prospective Icke fans:
He believes the earth is ruled by 12 Ft shapeshifting reptiles, who include, of course, GW Bush, Blair, the Queen....and of course Kris Krisofferson.
He once said he was Jesus Christ on UK TV.
Please don't let any of the above prejudice you in any way
He believes the earth is ruled by 12 Ft shapeshifting reptiles, who include, of course, GW Bush, Blair, the Queen....and of course Kris Krisofferson.
He once said he was Jesus Christ on UK TV.
Please don't let any of the above prejudice you in any way
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by julianj » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 08:53:31
That came our rather disrespectful, didn't it? 
Put it this way, David Icke is the Loon's Loon - the pinnacle, acme of bonkerosity which other lunatics dream of attaining.
I don't have a lot of time for our dear old Royals, but I really can't see them bursting out of their skin-suits of an evening and gobbling down marmosets....
Put it this way, David Icke is the Loon's Loon - the pinnacle, acme of bonkerosity which other lunatics dream of attaining.
I don't have a lot of time for our dear old Royals, but I really can't see them bursting out of their skin-suits of an evening and gobbling down marmosets....
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by rowante » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 09:01:01
Actually gg3, we down under have experienced this 'weather control' first hand, during the Sydney 2000 Olympics.
Don't believe the tourist ads depicting Sydney as an all-year-round skin cancer inducing wonderland... during early 'spring'-when the olympics were held-it's mostly cool and shitty with light showers. During the 2000 Olympics the Elites trained their weather control satellites on Sydney, sure enough it was sunshine and happiness for the entire games. I for one am not a sceptic.
Don't believe the tourist ads depicting Sydney as an all-year-round skin cancer inducing wonderland... during early 'spring'-when the olympics were held-it's mostly cool and shitty with light showers. During the 2000 Olympics the Elites trained their weather control satellites on Sydney, sure enough it was sunshine and happiness for the entire games. I for one am not a sceptic.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by linlithgowoil » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 10:07:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')uring the 2000 Olympics the Elites trained their weather control satellites on Sydney, sure enough it was sunshine and happiness for the entire games. I for one am not a sceptic.
Dear Lord! This site is becoming more and more bonkers! As for David Icke, this man has openly admitted in public that he is insane - shortly after claiming he was Jesus and saying that you had to wear turqouise or you'd experience bad things. Oh yes, the shape shifting lizard thing too.
Deary deary me. Ol' Hubbert would be turning in his grave if he knew that his theory had been hijacked by such absolute and total shite.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by KevO » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 10:13:59
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('linlithgowoil', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Dear Lord! This site is becoming more and more bonkers! As for David Icke, this man has openly admitted in public that he is insane - shortly after claiming he was Jesus and saying that you had to wear turqouise or you'd experience bad things. Oh yes, the shape shifting lizard thing too.
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Dear Lord! This site is becoming more and more bonkers! As for David Icke, this man has openly admitted in public that he is insane - shortly after claiming he was Jesus and saying that you had to wear turqouise or you'd experience bad things. Oh yes, the shape shifting lizard thing too.
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Yes he is seen as a crackpot. King Nut in fact.
And he went thro' a turquoise phase
However he never said he was Jesus - that was the media. He said we were all God and he got famous for saying he was God, which he technically did as he included himself in everybody
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by gt1370a » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 10:24:39
To address some of his specific points:
1) No surprise that oil isn't pumped unless it is profitable. We have a trillion barrels of oil in shale in the rocky mountains - is it a conspiracy that it isn't mined out, or just business?
2) There were pictures of damaged platforms and the coast guard reported up to 20 that were missing. Not to mention the videos of refineries under water. I guess an elaborate enough conspiracy theory could explain that away though. Hey, maybe "terrorists" blew up the levees.
1) No surprise that oil isn't pumped unless it is profitable. We have a trillion barrels of oil in shale in the rocky mountains - is it a conspiracy that it isn't mined out, or just business?
2) There were pictures of damaged platforms and the coast guard reported up to 20 that were missing. Not to mention the videos of refineries under water. I guess an elaborate enough conspiracy theory could explain that away though. Hey, maybe "terrorists" blew up the levees.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by Jake_old » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 11:24:42
Shouldn't this be in Open Discussion 
This is the first time i've been in the economics area and cannot believe this is a subject!
This is the first time i've been in the economics area and cannot believe this is a subject!
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by julianj » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 12:59:15
Still kicking Icky when he's down 
Here's a transcript of the Terry Wogan show where he said he was the Chosen One (not JC, sorry):
It doesn't quite give you the full effect of Wogan's face and the audience's laughter, but you get the idea (scroll down, its around post No3)
David Icke on Wogan
Really this posting should be in the Great Hall of Lunacy. Only we ain't got one. Yet.
Here's a transcript of the Terry Wogan show where he said he was the Chosen One (not JC, sorry):
It doesn't quite give you the full effect of Wogan's face and the audience's laughter, but you get the idea (scroll down, its around post No3)
David Icke on Wogan
Really this posting should be in the Great Hall of Lunacy. Only we ain't got one. Yet.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by frankthetank » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 13:49:15
THis is crap. An oil tanker can move 30-40knots? An older FourWinns skiing boat i had could hardly keep up!
delete this crap!
delete this crap!
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by stu » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 14:26:55
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I wouldn't pay much attention to Icke on this issue. Then again I wouldn't pay much attention to any NWO conspiracy that involves PO.
I used to be a follower of conspiracy theorists until PO helped me open my eyes to how society is structured around energy and not freemasons.
I've seen David Icke give an eight hour presentation in London on how he views the world. Alien Lizards, secret societies etc. It all makes for good entertainment but to give him a lot of credibility on this topic would be ludicrous.
I wouldn't pay much attention to Icke on this issue. Then again I wouldn't pay much attention to any NWO conspiracy that involves PO.
I used to be a follower of conspiracy theorists until PO helped me open my eyes to how society is structured around energy and not freemasons.
I've seen David Icke give an eight hour presentation in London on how he views the world. Alien Lizards, secret societies etc. It all makes for good entertainment but to give him a lot of credibility on this topic would be ludicrous.
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Re: "Orchestrating Financial Collapse".
by I_Like_Plants » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 18:01:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rowante', ' ')during early 'spring'-when the olympics were held-it's mostly cool and shitty with light showers. During the 2000 Olympics the Elites trained their weather control satellites on Sydney, sure enough it was sunshine and happiness for the entire games. I for one am not a sceptic.
Actually the Olympics are ALWAYS held in july. Unfortunately, July is mid-winter down there in Oz?
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