I think this decision was a pragmatic one. Bush may have wanted to make Scalia or Thomas the Chief Justice, but it would have meant three confirmation hearings, instead of two.
This choice gives him and the Senate more time to concentrate on the current emergency. (You know, their plummeting poll ratings.)
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Re: John Roberts nominated as Chief Justice
by Leanan » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 09:51:34
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Re: John Roberts nominated as Chief Justice
by MicroHydro » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 19:24:44
Roberts, the man who brokered the Iran-Contra pardons with Bush Sr. will be poised to protect the neocons if they are ever charged for their numerous capital crimes.
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US top court nominee steps down
by EnergySpin » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 10:52:12
Well guess what:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Texas lawyer nominated to the US Supreme Court by President George W Bush, Harriet Miers, has withdrawn as a nominee to the court.
link$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Texas lawyer nominated to the US Supreme Court by President George W Bush, Harriet Miers, has withdrawn as a nominee to the court.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by duke3522 » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 11:15:35
This will also take some of the heat off Libby and Rove until the charges come out.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by Leanan » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 11:23:48
I dunno...seems to me like the Miers nomination did immense damage to the Bush administration at a time when they could ill afford it.
They are much weaker now. Miers, Katrina, Valerie Plame...it's left them bleeding. What beleaguered administrations usually do is tack to the center. Pick a candidate that both the left and the right can support (as Bush did with Bernanke). Dunno if he'll be able to do that now. Changing the Supreme Court is the religious right's holy grail. OTOH, the Democrats smell the blood in the water, and if he tries to push an ideologue through, they'll go for the jugular. Bush is so unpopular right now that he can't just pick anyone he wants and make it stick. He needs to make a consensus pick...and I don't know if there is one for this job.
They are much weaker now. Miers, Katrina, Valerie Plame...it's left them bleeding. What beleaguered administrations usually do is tack to the center. Pick a candidate that both the left and the right can support (as Bush did with Bernanke). Dunno if he'll be able to do that now. Changing the Supreme Court is the religious right's holy grail. OTOH, the Democrats smell the blood in the water, and if he tries to push an ideologue through, they'll go for the jugular. Bush is so unpopular right now that he can't just pick anyone he wants and make it stick. He needs to make a consensus pick...and I don't know if there is one for this job.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by Eli » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 11:35:06
Leanan
I think you are absolutely right I think Meir's nomination was solely Bush's idea and he came up with all on his lonesome. And he is really smiting and angry that everyone did not go along with it.
I read a story that he is getting bitter and lashing out a lot these days at his closes advisers, a story I bet is true.
I think you are absolutely right I think Meir's nomination was solely Bush's idea and he came up with all on his lonesome. And he is really smiting and angry that everyone did not go along with it.
I read a story that he is getting bitter and lashing out a lot these days at his closes advisers, a story I bet is true.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by aahala » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 11:48:30
I'm surprised by the timing, but I thought it would happen. Repeated denials of something is a good sign that such an event will eventually happen.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by EnergySpin » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 11:52:31
The timing is certainly weird ..... the planets seem to be aligning in a certain direction.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by rogerhb » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 12:40:30
The wheels on the Bush (admin) fall off,off,off,
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The wheels on the Bush (admin) fall off,off,off,
all around the town.
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The wheels on the Bush (admin) fall off,off,off,
all around the town.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by EnemyCombatant » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 14:02:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'I') dunno...seems to me like the Miers nomination did immense damage to the Bush administration at a time when they could ill afford it.
They are much weaker now. Miers, Katrina, Valerie Plame...it's left them bleeding. What beleaguered administrations usually do is tack to the center. Pick a candidate that both the left and the right can support (as Bush did with Bernanke). Dunno if he'll be able to do that now. Changing the Supreme Court is the religious right's holy grail. OTOH, the Democrats smell the blood in the water, and if he tries to push an ideologue through, they'll go for the jugular. Bush is so unpopular right now that he can't just pick anyone he wants and make it stick. He needs to make a consensus pick...and I don't know if there is one for this job.
They are much weaker now. Miers, Katrina, Valerie Plame...it's left them bleeding. What beleaguered administrations usually do is tack to the center. Pick a candidate that both the left and the right can support (as Bush did with Bernanke). Dunno if he'll be able to do that now. Changing the Supreme Court is the religious right's holy grail. OTOH, the Democrats smell the blood in the water, and if he tries to push an ideologue through, they'll go for the jugular. Bush is so unpopular right now that he can't just pick anyone he wants and make it stick. He needs to make a consensus pick...and I don't know if there is one for this job.
I disagree. Bush could push through Bork if he wanted to. At the end of the day, the Dems always fall in line. The bitching and moaning part is just for show.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by Leanan » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 14:27:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') disagree. Bush could push through Bork if he wanted to. At the end of the day, the Dems always fall in line. The bitching and moaning part is just for show.
Some of it is. But they have been - wisely IMO - saving their ammo for the important fights. They have blocked some of Bush's more extreme judicial picks, via fillibuster or threat of fillibuster. Now that Bush is so unpopular, they can continue do that, without paying much of a political price.
I've actually been pretty impressed with the Democrats since the last election. They've stuck together while the GOP fell into disarray. Losing seats may have had a hidden benefit. There's a lot fewer Democrats who have to worry about Red State constituents now.
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Re: US top court nominee steps down
by GreyZone » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 15:00:01
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') disagree. Bush could push through Bork if he wanted to. At the end of the day, the Dems always fall in line. The bitching and moaning part is just for show.
Some of it is. But they have been - wisely IMO - saving their ammo for the important fights. They have blocked some of Bush's more extreme judicial picks, via fillibuster or threat of fillibuster. Now that Bush is so unpopular, they can continue do that, without paying much of a political price. I've actually been pretty impressed with the Democrats since the last election. They've stuck together while the GOP fell into disarray. Losing seats may have had a hidden benefit. There's a lot fewer Democrats who have to worry about Red State constituents now.You assume there are actually two parties at work here, rather than just two sides of the same multinational corporate coin. The Democrats have the same paymasters as the Republicans. Clinton was the one that eased accounting regulations that allowed Enron to blossom. That wasn't an accident. It just happened to fall apart under Bush's watch. The Demopublicans give the illusion of two parties to the voting masses but the multinational corporations still get to call the shots regardless of who sits in the White House.
The surest way to disabuse yourself of the notion that things are "normal" here in the US is to start regularly reading foreign news sources. Read China Daily, India Daily, Al Jazeera, and many others. You don't have to agree with them but just read them. Slowly you will begin to be amazed at the stories that the entire rest of the world discusses as important but which never ever appear on the nightly news in the US. At that point you can draw your own conclusions.
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