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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 10:50:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Barbara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')arbara wrote:
When US authorities said the first thing to do was shooting at looters, people here in the EU couldn't believe their ears.
When a country thinks first of saving properties than feeding starving children or rescueing lost elders, then that country has no hope.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')pecop wrote:
Did the media tell you what the looters were looting?


Yes.
- Food and drinks at the supermarkets. Then let them do it, they're starving.
- DVDs and cell phones and other useless garbage. The let them do it, there's people starving and dieing to rescue first.
Anything else? I didn't hear they were looting in hospitals or other essentials


Your second point is what concerns Spec.
Please tell him, how does a DVD player or TV help someone survive?
Theres a fine line between looting and surviving. If your taking food and water, fine. If your trying to profit off the situation, thats a whole new ballgame.
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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby Barbara » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 11:15:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')lease tell him, how does a DVD player or TV help someone survive?


Yes, they're bad guys, but people stealing DVDs is the #378 problem in NO right now.
I'm amazed US govt is not grasping this.
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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 11:24:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Barbara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')lease tell him, how does a DVD player or TV help someone survive?


Yes, they're bad guys, but people stealing DVDs is the #378 problem in NO right now.
I'm amazed US govt is not grasping this.


The same people stealing TV's are also the same ones stealing pickups with supplies on them, interfereing with the police and fire departments, shooting at the helicopters etc etc etc.
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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby Barbara » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 14:33:38

Yes specop. Maybe 50? 100? 1000?
There are other 200.000 starving and dieing. I'd say "move your a** and go rescueing them." Later, you'll take care of bandits.
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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 18:13:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Barbara', '
')Anything else? I didn't hear they were looting in hospitals or other essentials


Yes, hospitals have had to barricade and defend against looting gangs, in fear of being killed down to the last patient for whatever they may have. Same with old folks' homes, the kind of places you'd expect people to have some respect for, none at all and these looters don't just come to take a can of soda 'cos that's all the need, they're coming to murder whoever is in the hospital etc.
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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby arocoun » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 20:33:23

Now, THOSE assholes should be shot in the knees and one lung, and left to die a painful death. Attacking a hospital is just wrong.
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Re: Material Posessions > Life ?

Unread postby Cool Hand Linc » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 03:02:01

ya, Barbara, did you know Specoop_007 shared a link to National Guard Scanner that was on the net for a while? He was getting some first hand stuff.

I have heard reports from people already rescued that even with hundreds of people at the established pick up points these looting gangs would approach and take women to rape. The women would take a man with them to pee and poop. Even then staying within eye sight of the man group.

One report said that one rapist raped a young girl who went in alone to a restroom. After he raped her. He cut her throat. When the crowd found out. The beat the rapist to death.

The looting gangs were shooting at the helicopters that were evacuating people.

Aerial photos of firs show windows smashed on the front of building. Implying the looters are hitting them and them burning afterward. Sacs Fifth Avenue I saw on the national news today. windows busted out and beginning to burn. Sacs doesn't have food.

These same gangs have stopped trucks driven by citizens attempting to bring in supplies. Commandeering them.

Today a report of contractors being escorted by police. They were being fired upon. The police returned fire and reportedly killed 4 or 5 of the original 8 gang members.
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