[wilburke]

http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2005-0903-1.mp3

Jim Puplava did a special 50 minute analysis of the current situation, with some interesting info on the damage to the infrastructure, but he also managed to add two rather controversial points to his analysis:

1) The lack of refineries in this countries is the fault of the environmentalists.

2) Not only is there is no link between global warming and the severity of storms, but there is also no evidence that global warming is a man-made "event". His source for this point is an interview done with Prof. William Gray, a noted hurrican forecaster. A link to an interview with Gray is in the link below:

http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/

I find this analysis to be of dubious quality (in the most polite language I can muster), but I want to know what everyone thinks about this.

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')) The lack of refineries in this countries is the fault of the environmentalists.

[Such]

Well... the US does import about 1 million barrels of finished gasoline and diesel products each day because our refinery capacity is below our crude requirements.

Also, we have exploration and drilling bans on the east coast, the west coast, and florida coast. We can't even shoot seismic data in these regions. Florida western offshore undoubtedly has tremendous amounts of gas and some oil. There is probably some oil off the east coast as well, just like the eastern Canadian Newfoundland fields.

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Such', 'W')ell... the US does import about 1 million barrels of finished gasoline and diesel products each day because our refinery capacity is below our crude requirements.

Also, we have exploration and drilling bans on the east coast, the west coast, and florida coast. We can't even shoot seismic data in these regions. Florida western offshore undoubtedly has tremendous amounts of gas and some oil. There is probably some oil off the east coast as well, just like the eastern Canadian Newfoundland fields.

[jaws]

Refinery constraints debunked

[DantesPeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaws', '[')url=http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic7496.html]Refinery constraints debunked[/url]

[Ludi]

Most climate scientists agree global climate change is partially caused by human activity, and partially caused by the fact we're in an interglacial period.


Think about it, though. You can't wipe out several of the biggest carbon sinks on the planet, plus pump a bunch of CO2 into the atmosphere and not have some effect. Really.

[DantesPeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'M')ost climate scientists agree global climate change is partially caused by human activity, and partially caused by the fact we're in an interglacial period.


Think about it, though. You can't wipe out several of the biggest carbon sinks on the planet, plus pump a bunch of CO2 into the atmosphere and not have some effect. Really.

[MicroHydro]

Puplava is a better than average financial commentator. He has no qualifications whatsoever to evaluate environmental issues.

[ab0di]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wilburke', '[')url=http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2005-0903-1.mp3]http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2005-0903-1.mp3[/url]

Jim Puplava did a special 50 minute analysis of the current situation, with some interesting info on the damage to the infrastructure, but he also managed to add two rather controversial points to his analysis:

1) The lack of refineries in this countries is the fault of the environmentalists.

2) Not only is there is no link between global warming and the severity of storms, but there is also no evidence that global warming is a man-made "event". His source for this point is an interview done with Prof. William Gray, a noted hurrican forecaster. A link to an interview with Gray is in the link below:

http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/

I find this analysis to be of dubious quality (in the most polite language I can muster), but I want to know what everyone thinks about this.

[dunewalker]

With the descriptions we've seen in the news of the pollution disaster resulting from Hurricane Katrina, how can anyone in good conscience blame environmental concerns for inhibiting "economic progress"? The costs in dollars and lives to deal with this pollution nightmare will be borne by all Americans, indeed much of the world.

[nuhax]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ab0di', 'I')t's more than dubious. It's just more Looney Libertarian claptrap and nonsense. I don't expect much else from Puplava and his ilk.

[jimmydean]

On refinery capacity I think the answer lies with the oil industry itself. Chevron CEO recently discussed this on CNN saying that over the last 30 years existing U.S. refineries have simply grown larger and more technologically advanced enough to keep pace with demand. The long term issues is not refineries though but the fact that there is little to no new discovery. Oil companies know full well that the cost for discovery at this point probably won't produce an appropriate ROI.

On global warming it's pretty clear there is no concensus. From a pure logic point of view I find it very hard to believe that 6B+ people on this planet along with about 30% of the earth's nations being fully industrialized are not in some way going to be a factor on global temperatures.

[TheDude]

Last one was a good listen, Jim was way more heated about the ignorance concerning peak oil amongst our elected idiots than he was about Ben 'n Hank. Figures since he had returned from the Sacramento ASPO conference. Really full of invective.

Kept saying they'd play some clips from it too but it wasn't in the show.

[lowem]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'K')ept saying they'd play some clips from it too but it wasn't in the show.