Actually, my worry is that it is very easy to control New Orleans by the easy method of shooting everybody.
People in the rest of the world and the relatives of the victims wouldn't be vastly impressed, though.
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Civil war possibility?
Re: Civil war possibility?
by Doly » Fri 02 Sep 2005, 10:07:26
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Re: Civil war possibility?
by KevO » Fri 02 Sep 2005, 14:00:16
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'H')ell no, the NG would squash any attempted local uprising. If the NG couldn't do it by themselves on the ground, then they still have air support they can call in if nessecary. Any organized rebellion beyond local gangs being punks will be completly eliminated using any and all force required to do so. NO is not big enough that a few hundred B52's couldn't reduce it to a pile of floating rubble. Hell, the ABC Radio News feed said that the governer said that many of the NG troops being deployed are fresh back from Iraq, and know how to shoot to kill if nessecary. She also said "and I imagine they will". A nationwide rebellion would be difficult to squash, but a localised uprising in one paticular city would be very easy, (if the gloves came off and we didn't play party to the liberal news media stations.)
wow!
so this is America!
land of the what?
home of the who?
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Re: Civil war possibility?
by k_semler » Fri 02 Sep 2005, 15:54:45
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'A')ctually, my worry is that it is very easy to control New Orleans by the easy method of shooting everybody.
People in the rest of the world and the relatives of the victims wouldn't be vastly impressed, though.
People in the rest of the world and the relatives of the victims wouldn't be vastly impressed, though.
All they would have to do is order a media blackout in New Orleans, and then call in the Apache gunships to clean house. Arm them with a few white phosperous rockets, and it would make short work of the city. Not only would the city be flooded, but it would be burnt down as well. Or, if they don't want to do a media blackout, then just send in a few foot soilders armed with HEI RPGs, and fire them at the railroad yard. I'm quite sure that there are very explosive materials stored there. Without water pressure to fight it, the city would be completly engulfed in flames within a week. Also, water dosen't stop white phosporous from burning either. If not stabalised, it burns as soon as exposed to oxygen. And if you want to scare the shit out of people, get a pound of cesium, and drop it in the water so they can hear it, (but not be injured by the reaction).
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Re: Civil war possibility?
by BastardSquad » Fri 02 Sep 2005, 18:59:06
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stu', 'I')n terms of uprisings, the only thought I had was that maybe poor black people in other parts of the country would see the lack of help going to their fellow underpriveliged and decide that enough is enough and start a few riots here and there.
Where do you keep coming up with this garbage?
Ever hear of the "welfare state"?
It is not a lack of help that has caused this,it is years and years of free handouts that made them so helpless! They expect the world on a platter and if they don't get what they want they scream RACISM at the top of their lungs and the government caves in to their demands!!
Right now they're attacking firefighters!!!
[/quote]Here’s an excerpt from the Manchester Manchester Evening News in the United Kingdom:
British students reported the horror of death and rape.
The early morning blasts were a few miles south of the French Quarter and jolted residents awake. The extent of any possible damage was not immediately known.
The explosions came as British students caught up in the horror of Hurricane Katrina spoke of their four days of “hell” at the New Orleans Superdome.
They described how their place of refuge descended into a scene of terror as people ran wild with knives and guns, used crack cocaine and hurled racial abuse.
Tourists, meanwhile, were turned out of hotels to face terror on the streets. Debbie Durso of Washington, Michigan, said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, “Go to hell - it’s every man for himself.”
Up to 30 British students huddled among the thousands in the Superdome were forced to set up a makeshift security cordon to fend off abusive locals. ["locals” is obviously a code word for the Black mob]
Jamie Trout, 22, an economics student from Sunderland, kept a record of his terrifying ordeal. He wrote: “It was like something out of Lord of the Flies - one minute everything is calm and civil, the next it descends into chaos. A man has been arrested for raping a seven-year-old in the toilet, this place is hell. The smell is horrendous, there are toilets overflowing and people everywhere.”
Jamie, who had been coaching football to disabled children as part of the Camp America scheme, said people were shouting racial abuse at the Britons because they were white.
And this from Austrailian Journalists as printed in a major Austrailian news service, news.com.au
Hurricane’s trail of anarchy
From: By David Nason and Geoff Elliott
September 03, 2005
Explosion … fire on the east side of New Orleans / AP Gallery THOUSANDS of US National Guardsmen were heading for New Orleans last night with orders to shoot to kill as armed African-American gangs terrorized the city devastated by Hurricane Katrina.
By David Nason and Geoff Elliott…
Police escorted a group of white tourists, including Australian Anthony Hopes, 30, away from the Superdome after they were subjected to race threats. The tourists are now under armed guard in the foyer of the Hilton hotel.
Nothing about this appeared in the American press. It has been very reluctant to even identify the criminals as Afro-Americans. But if you scan the American press you can quickly discover the racial hate and violence that is going on.
And here’s another excerpt from an AP story, THOUSANDS STILL STRANDED AS CHAOS REIGNS
By DAVE DAVIES & CATHERINE LUCY
Police Chief Eddie Compass said there was such a crush around a squad of 88 officers that they retreated when they went in to check out reports of assaults.
“We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten,” Compass said. ”Tourists [read White] are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.” Col. Henry Whitehorn, chief of the Louisiana State Police, said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers – many of whom from flooded areas – turning in their badges.
Here are some quotes compiled by ABC News
In quotes: Chaos in New Orleans
New Orleans has descended into chaos in the wake of the devastating Hurricane Katrina. Following are quotes about the situation on the ground.
Baron Duncan, describing the time he spent inside the Superdome:
The last few days were utter hell. The stench was unbearable. We were treated like animals. “There was shooting, our lives were in danger. A seven-year-old girl and an eight-year-old boy got raped.”
Audrey Jordan who sought refuge in the Superdome
“We are lost. We are tourists. [read White] We don’t know how to get around, how to protect ourselves. It is like being in a jungle. “People were staring at us, waving clubs [when we walked through one inner-city neighborhood]. “I was scared. For the first time in my life I thought I would die.”
Australian woman Kelly-Rae Smith, whose parents are hiding on a road overpass with 40 other tourists after their hotel was flooded Australian woman Kelly-Rae Smith, whose parents are hiding on a road overpass with 40 other tourists after their hotel was flooded:
“The violence is escalating. There are shootings. They have three dead bodies at the bottom of the stairwell where they are.
“They have a pay phone but have to strategically plan when they go.
“There’s so much violence going on even the SWAT team has locked themselves in their building.”
CNN reporter Chris Lawrence, who is holed up with a group on the roof of a police station in the middle of New Orleans:
Right now it’s the only safe place to be in the city. We were on the street earlier but the police said under no circumstances would you be safe on the street.”
“They said anybody walking in the streets of New Orleans is basically taking their life in their hands. “As they hustled us off the street some of the officers told us that groups of young men had been looting the city, shooting at people, attempting to rape young women. “They directed some of the young women to get off the street immediately.”
Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco:
“Three hundred of the Arkansas National Guard have landed in the city of New Orleans. “These troops are fresh back from Iraq, well trained, experienced, battle-tested and under my orders to restore order in the streets. “They have M-16s and they are locked and loaded. “These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.”
A New Orleans police officer, who asked not to be identified:
"People were raped in [the Superdome, where refugees were living]. People were killed in there. We had multiple riots.
Dr Andrew Sandler, working at a hospital in New Orleans:
“It’s very easy to get from our point to the bridge that can get us out of here. The problem is that the buses that have been ordered … that were supposed to come here today … two were commandeered by FEMA and the other four, they were told that it wasn’t safe for them to evacuate us because of the snipers.
“With 60 residents, the average aged 87, that have not had air-conditioning in five days, three have died and another eight - no matter how much water we give them, could expire because it’s too hot for them.
“The variable I never, that I hadn’t planned for, are the snipers - in fact that nobody would give the buses, they won’t let the buses get us out.”
And here is an piece from the NY Daily Post
The guardians of the public order in Katrina-ravaged New Orleans, where mobs of gunmen openly loot and rape and carjack and bus jack and peg shots at police officers and soldiers at will - and where anarchy, Mogadishu-style, is just around the corner if they’re not stopped hard and fast - must regain control immediately. They must do whatever it takes to curb the hard-core, armed, violent felons who are making it impossible to save the city. These are a very different breed from desperate citizens who are trying to get food and water.
…Who’s in charge? Random lawlessness went un-addressed in the early hours of Katrina’s aftermath, search and rescue clearly being more pressing a concern. That was then. Today, New Orleans is spinning wildly out of control, as armed-to-the-teeth killers carve out post-apocalypse gangdoms with little fear of consequences. The critically ill are under siege in hospital beds. The elderly are driven from nursing homes. Snipers fire at evacuation points. These are budding warlords. The city must be taken back from them. The members of this lawless army need to know their own lives are in danger.
From the Independent newspaper in UK
The potential for racial conflict has been quietly side-stepped in much of the US media coverage to date, but it is also impossible to ignore.[/quote]
You can take your "blame whitey" propaganda and shove it!!!
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Re: Civil war possibility?
by Schweinshaxe » Fri 02 Sep 2005, 19:08:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'H')ell no, the NG would squash any attempted local uprising. If the NG couldn't do it by themselves on the ground, then they still have air support they can call in if nessecary. Any organized rebellion beyond local gangs being punks will be completly eliminated using any and all force required to do so. NO is not big enough that a few hundred B52's couldn't reduce it to a pile of floating rubble. Hell, the ABC Radio News feed said that the governer said that many of the NG troops being deployed are fresh back from Iraq, and know how to shoot to kill if nessecary. She also said "and I imagine they will". A nationwide rebellion would be difficult to squash, but a localised uprising in one paticular city would be very easy, (if the gloves came off and we didn't play party to the liberal news media stations.)
OK, the situation is under control. I'm glad to hear that!
But what happens after the problems with homelessness and unemployment have been taken care of by using tactical nukes? I'm sure you could always ship the survivors to Auschwitz and retrain them into productive citizens.
Jesus, I must say I'm impressed by you Americans. Your government really knows how to deal with problems. Here in Old Europe, the governments slowly kills us with taxation and legislation instead.
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