[Schweinshaxe]

Since we all know that modern "democracy" is nothing but another word for corruption, I'd like to hear what you have to say about the future political systems we can choose from, PO or not.

In my opinion, a constitution, guarded by a High Court selected by the people through the local governments would be the best political system.

Noone in a public position, always selected by the people, would receive any money for their work. It's a non-paid part time work only. The honour of serving the people should be reward enough.

The local government is selected by the people every 6 years. Every citizen, who is 28 years or older can be candidate. 1 representative for every 1.000 citizen should be selected for local government. You can choose which "constituency" you want to belong to. If you don't like it, move on to the next one.

The High Court is selected by the people every 12 years. The candidates are selected by the local governments. I'd say 1 High Court judge for every 100.000 citizen would be enough. If you don't like the constitution, move on to the next political system.

Every local government can make their own laws if it's approved by the people by referendum and it's not a violation of the constitution.

The High Court can't change the constitution unless 75 % of the local governments have approved it by asking the people.

Problem: Who writes the constitution?

Now it's your turn. Which political system would you choose?

The economical system of your choice will be discussed in another thread.

[idiom]

Who needs a constitution? Governments can function fine without them.

You didn't descirbe a true democracy thus its going to be massively corrupt, especially with such long terms without pay. How do you support a family, pay for your wardrobe and travel, and you know, eat, unless you are being encouraged to vote in ceratian ways.

First thing everybody elected will do is vote to amend the constitution to pay themselves. And who cares if the do a whole bunch of really stupid stuff, its six years until you can fix it.

Why not go to a virtual democracy in this day and age? Only odd restrictions will be on those who can submit bills, having graduated law school or somesuch. I mean if you really don't want to pay anybody.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('idiom', 'W')ho needs a constitution? Governments can function fine without them.

You didn't descirbe a true democracy thus its going to be massively corrupt, especially with such long terms without pay. How do you support a family, pay for your wardrobe and travel, and you know, eat, unless you are being encouraged to vote in ceratian ways.

First thing everybody elected will do is vote to amend the constitution to pay themselves. And who cares if the do a whole bunch of really stupid stuff, its six years until you can fix it.

Why not go to a virtual democracy in this day and age? Only odd restrictions will be on those who can submit bills, having graduated law school or somesuch. I mean if you really don't want to pay anybody.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')2. Being a public servant would be a part time job. You could be a bicycle repairman, a farmer, a doctor or a management consultant (I don't care). You have a job or you're being fed by a rich aunt (I don't care). You're trusted by the people so you get to decide what's best for the people.

[Ludi]

I'm in favor of small-scale non-hierarchical local and regional societies.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m in favor of small-scale non-hierarchical local and regional societies.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')2. Being a public servant would be a part time job. You could be a bicycle repairman, a farmer, a doctor or a management consultant (I don't care). You have a job or you're being fed by a rich aunt (I don't care). You're trusted by the people so you get to decide what's best for the people.

[born2respawn]

Nothing innately wrong with hierarchies, just how they appear. If a group of farmers picks someone with a proven expertise to lead them, it's a meritocracy, and provided everyone's on a more or less level footing to begin with, their leader can be recalled automatically. Everyone just ignores what they say.

Of course, on a larger scale I'm happy with democracy as it's ticking over, although I'd redefine what exactly the government would have any business doing.

[Specop_007]

Specop is rather found of a Republic

Sworn to the Crown,
Specop_007

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m in favor of small-scale non-hierarchical local and regional societies.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')2. Being a public servant would be a part time job. You could be a bicycle repairman, a farmer, a doctor or a management consultant (I don't care). You have a job or you're being fed by a rich aunt (I don't care). You're trusted by the people so you get to decide what's best for the people.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m in favor of small-scale non-hierarchical local and regional societies.

[idiom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')1. I need a constitution. I'm being raped anally by the politicians every month when they steal 50 % of my salary, don't give me any "social security", force me to pay for it myself with my taxed money and then give themselves life time pension after 8 years of "work".

2. Being a public servant would be a part time job. You could be a bicycle repairman, a farmer, a doctor or a management consultant (I don't care). You have a job or you're being fed by a rich aunt (I don't care). You're trusted by the people so you get to decide what's best for the people.

3. Corruption will always be a problem. The pressure from the public will certainly take care of the most of it with the system I suggest.

4. Direct democracy will feed corruption. Conservatism is what I believe in. Evolution instead of revolution. Also, a university diploma doesn't mean that you're fit to decide how to serve the people in the best way. Regardless if you're a bum or a rocket scientist, if the people trust you, you're the man (or woman of course...) to do the job.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m in favor of small-scale non-hierarchical local and regional societies.

[Z]

One thing that is absolutely necessary, IMHO, is to have a political body directly elected by the citizens to oversee the media. If left alone, all kinds of powers ( political, financial ... ) will try to subvert it to reinforce the grip they have on society. The corruption of the media is one very important reason for the sad state of our democracies today.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('idiom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')1. I need a constitution. I'm being raped anally by the politicians every month when they steal 50 % of my salary, don't give me any "social security", force me to pay for it myself with my taxed money and then give themselves life time pension after 8 years of "work".

2. Being a public servant would be a part time job. You could be a bicycle repairman, a farmer, a doctor or a management consultant (I don't care). You have a job or you're being fed by a rich aunt (I don't care). You're trusted by the people so you get to decide what's best for the people.

3. Corruption will always be a problem. The pressure from the public will certainly take care of the most of it with the system I suggest.

4. Direct democracy will feed corruption. Conservatism is what I believe in. Evolution instead of revolution. Also, a university diploma doesn't mean that you're fit to decide how to serve the people in the best way. Regardless if you're a bum or a rocket scientist, if the people trust you, you're the man (or woman of course...) to do the job.

[0mar]

The best government is a Benevolt Dictator.

[Schweinshaxe]

The questions were:

1. What's your favourite political system?

2. Who will write the constitution?

[idiom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '3'). The elected people are your neighbours and friends. Not anonymous bastards serving a corrupt federal system. That's where the public pressure comes in.

[Jenab]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('born2respawn', 'N')othing innately wrong with hierarchies, just how they appear. If a group of farmers picks someone with a proven expertise to lead them, it's a meritocracy, and provided everyone's on a more or less level footing to begin with, their leader can be recalled automatically. Everyone just ignores what they say.

Of course, on a larger scale I'm happy with democracy as it's ticking over, although I'd redefine what exactly the government would have any business doing.