[bentstrider]

Even after trains come back and most auto transport kicks the bucket, people will still be able to live wherever the hell they want.
But, the varying environment will decide who will make the cut.
Along with the return of rail travel and centralized activity, I also see the return of the true "outdoorsmen", and the true loners who like to drop the proverbial thermonuclear F-Bombs on the world.

[sklump]

How much oil does it take to manufacture and lay 1 km of track? To manufacture a locomotive? Seriously, I have no idea.

It takes 90 barrels to manufacture a car. So if the US has 200 million cars, to replace the fleet with hybrids or clean fairy-tech, that makes a staggering 18 billion barrels. On the downslope, that just isn't going to happen.

[Wildwell]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sklump', 'H')ow much oil does it take to manufacture and lay 1 km of track? To manufacture a locomotive? Seriously, I have no idea.

It takes 90 barrels to manufacture a car. So if the US has 200 million cars, to replace the fleet with hybrids or clean fairy-tech, that makes a staggering 18 billion barrels. On the downslope, that just isn't going to happen.

[I_Like_Plants]

That peakoildebunked site is well worth reading! For one thing, the author is walking the walk, no car, no major oil use, train/bike etc instead. No.2 the author is showing some of the arguements against peak oil, which deserve a hearing. Well done!

[Eli]

Regardless of how much oil it takes trains are a much more effective use of energy.


Which would takes more energy to maintain thousands of trains on steal tracks or millions upon millions of cars and the highways they ride upon?

Trains are a much better use of energy resources.

[bentstrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'R')egardless of how much oil it takes trains are a much more effective use of energy.


Which would takes more energy to maintain thousands of trains on steal tracks or millions upon millions of cars and the highways they ride upon?

Trains are a much better use of energy resources.

[BabyPeanut]

AIRLINES FOREVER!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Bankruptcy Not Expected to Close Delta

By MICHELINE MAYNARD
Published: August 28, 2005

The financial problems of Delta Air Lines are prompting customers to wonder what to expect if it seeks bankruptcy protection this fall. Based on what has happened at other airlines, they should be prepared for some changes, but they should not expect it to shut down - Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection is intended to give companies the opportunity to keep operating while they reorganize.

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sklump', 'H')ow much oil does it take to manufacture and lay 1 km of track? To manufacture a locomotive? Seriously, I have no idea.

[Laurasia]

I love travelling by train. Here in the US they should combine freight and passenger service in one train by just adding a few extra carriages on the back. Since there are so many more freight than passenger trains, that would open up a lot more routes to potential passengers if it was advertised properly. It would not be all that glamorous but it would catch on FAST if the price were right.

Regards,

L.

[bentstrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Laurasia', 'I') love travelling by train. Here in the US they should combine freight and passenger service in one train by just adding a few extra carriages on the back. Since there are so many more freight than passenger trains, that would open up a lot more routes to potential passengers if it was advertised properly. It would not be all that glamorous but it would catch on FAST if the price were right.

Regards,

L.

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Laurasia', 'I') love travelling by train. Here in the US they should combine freight and passenger service in one train by just adding a few extra carriages on the back. Since there are so many more freight than passenger trains, that would open up a lot more routes to potential passengers if it was advertised properly. It would not be all that glamorous but it would catch on FAST if the price were right.

Regards,

L.

[Laurasia]

Okay; it's a good point you've made about the length of the freight train with the poor passengers stuck at the back, and no platform to disembark onto. So....put the passenger carriages on the front, right behind the engine, and make a rule to allow passenger disembarkation FIRST, before all the freight stuff. There would be glitches but with a bit of ingenuity they could be worked out. But I also like your idea of giving light freight to Amtrak. This is off topic a bit but I know that in the seventies you could send small packages by Greyhound bus (which I think might be described as US' major national passenger bus line) - it was sort of unofficial I think and I don't know if they still do it.

Just my tuppence...

Regards,

L.

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Laurasia', 'O')kay; it's a good point you've made about the length of the freight train with the poor passengers stuck at the back, and no platform to disembark onto.