[JohnDenver]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I')t was not my intent to portray the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) as anything more than an organizational arm of a deeper "ruling elite." And as to certain members mounting a "unity of effort", remember this sentence from my book about the status of many members: "For the most part, they are merely opportunists who view this organization as a high level employment agency. "

Just keep your head up an watch what they do.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I')t was not my intent to portray the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) as anything more than an organizational arm of a deeper "ruling elite." And as to certain members mounting a "unity of effort", remember this sentence from my book about the status of many members: "For the most part, they are merely opportunists who view this organization as a high level employment agency. "

Just keep your head up an watch what they do.

[Didga]

Allrighty then, if I have time to obtain this brillant piece of work that connects the dots between peak oil, the NWO and the illuminati, how do I go about it ?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Didga', 'A')llrighty then, if I have time to obtain this brillant piece of work that connects the dots between peak oil, the NWO and the illuminati, how do I go about it ?

[Guest]

I have just read Monte's book, Madmen at the Helm. Obviously with only 111 pages and quite a big topic to cover (just the Illuminati, NWO and Peak Oil) it was always going to be a brief synopsis or introduction. The book can also be thought of as a literature review and often the influence of the original author is seen.

Overall much of the book is excellent. The flow is coherent with topics naturally being introduced as pieces of the puzzle are put together. The explanations of how a secret society works through different layers or rings structured in a pyramid is clear and very educational. Segments of the Illuminati not described in detail in Monte's Fabian/CFR theory are mentioned with links for good all round coverage. Monte quite obviously focuses in on his Fabian/CFR theory but this is due to the need to be concise but short on all topics.

The Collectivism Vs Individualism, US Patriot movement and what makes a democratic republic work are not usually included in a novel. I thought writing was great and offers a message that change and reversing government corruption and control is possible. The peak oil section is brief (4 pages) but just what it needs to be as part of a very big picture.

Monte's review of the historical development of the Central bank, tax-free foundations and income tax again is short, clear and concise. The same can be said of the quick review of history from an Illuminati perspective from WW1 to 911 except I was surprised to find no mention of the burning of the Reistagg incident in the trigger for WW2 discussion.

Standard oil, the actions of the Rockefeller oil cartel in WW2 such as supplying oil to Germany, developing coal hydrogenation technology for liquid fuel use and the high mileage, vapor carburettors used by Nazi army were not discussed. I find it surprising that no mention was made to these highly pertinent points in Peak oil and Illuminati piece. The history of the oil cartel and illuminati involvement, the suppression of alternative fuel and energy technologies was left out. The actions of the oil cartel in shaping a society now dependant on oil was summarised down to the destruction of the urban transit systems throughout the US in the 1940/50’s by Firestone and General Motors.

I was looking for at least a segment on the oil cartel and its penetration into government. The actions of the energy racket in researching developments that made people ever more dependant on their product and the suppression of any alternatives to oil. This was missing for me. Peak oil has been known about by the illuminati oil cartel for decades and how it plays out now will be used to rapidly advance the NWO agenda.

The other bits all fit together, I do feel that more of a case that a solution to peak oil, the oil cartel, the NWO and the illuminati could all be brought about by fighting totalitarism should have been made. Instead Monte offers us a power down of modest local communities presumably without the hubris of geopolitical strategists.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', ' ')Monte's review of the historical development of the Central bank, tax-free foundations and income tax again is short, clear and concise. The same can be said of the quick review of history from an Illuminati perspective from WW1 to 911 except I was surprised to find no mention of the burning of the Reistagg incident in the trigger for WW2 discussion.

Standard oil, the actions of the Rockefeller oil cartel in WW2 such as supplying oil to Germany, developing coal hydrogenation technology for liquid fuel use and the high mileage, vapor carburettors used by Nazi army were not discussed. I find it surprising that no mention was made to these highly pertinent points in Peak oil and Illuminati piece. The history of the oil cartel and illuminati involvement, the suppression of alternative fuel and energy technologies was left out. The actions of the oil cartel in shaping a society now dependant on oil was summarised down to the destruction of the urban transit systems throughout the US in the 1940/50’s by Firestone and General Motors.

I was looking for at least a segment on the oil cartel and its penetration into government. The actions of the energy racket in researching developments that made people ever more dependant on their product and the suppression of any alternatives to oil. This was missing for me. Peak oil has been known about by the illuminati oil cartel for decades and how it plays out now will be used to rapidly advance the NWO agenda.

The other bits all fit together, I do feel that more of a case that a solution to peak oil, the oil cartel, the NWO and the illuminati could all be brought about by fighting totalitarism should have been made. Instead Monte offers us a power down of modest local communities presumably without the hubris of geopolitical strategists.

[Guest]

No prob Monte, its still a great little book and a good introduction to some very big issues. As a single read (especially for a new to conspiracy theory reader) it does cover a huge range of material succinctly. I will give it to some colleagues and acquaintances to read for "newbie" responses. The oil cartel angle I must admit is my personal beef however after reading "World without Cancer" by G. Edward Griffin it is impossible not form a picture of the oil cartel having knowledge of peak oil and specifically making a decision in the interests of profit and not morality. Just as has not treating cancer as a deficiency disease and instead cutting, burning or poisoning patients has resulted in untold deaths and human misery, so too the actions of the oil cartel have created a liquid fuel and subsequent energy crisis that will cause suffering and death to the whole of mankind.

[NugBlazer]

I finished reading Monte's book and all I can say is "WOW!".

I never really knew about the Illuminati or much of the stuff the book covers.

Monte's allusion in the book to the pill scene in "The Matrix" is dead on. That's EXACTLY how I felt while the book. It's like I'd been living a lie since the day I was born! Having nearly all of US and world history re-written, for the worse, right before your eyes is a crushing realization, one that almost is too much to bear. So much for the "textbook" version of US history. I know the real truth when I see it.

This book should be required reading for just about everyone. It's amazing how much stuff is crammed into 111 pages. And, it's well-written, which makes it easy to read.

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tapas', 'I') I would encourage them to breeze through this concise and simple explanation of how money works:
http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html

[PenultimateManStanding]

Is this what you mean by favorable reviews? Your book should have been no more than an article, an opinion piece. I was reading it and waiting for the gist after multiple chapters. You aren't a writer, is all. You have insights to offer, I won't contest that.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')s this what you mean by favorable reviews? Your book should have been no more than an article, an opinion piece. I was reading it and waiting for the gist after multiple chapters. You aren't a writer, is all. You have insights to offer, I won't contest that.

[PenultimateManStanding]

god bless, Monte. I have no problem with your ernestness. I'm just saying you suck as a writer.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'g')od bless, Monte. I have no problem with your ernestness. I'm just saying you suck as a writer.

[Chaparral]

I think it has potential. A little cleaning up of odd paragraphs here and there, but especially in the last 35 pages or so would help. I think It would have a place on the bookshelf along with William Clark, Mike Ruppert, John Perkins, Peter Dale Scott et al. Like another poster mentioned, addition of the burning of the Reichstag would help, as would a comprehensive bibliography. I could see it being published by an outfit like New Society Publishing and probably easily coming out to 170-220 pages when all is said and done.

The perpective of collectivism vs individualism and the role of the Illuminati render the work, IMO pertinent to more than just the '04 elections: In my opinion, the perspective offered by 'Madmen at the Helm' deserves a wider audience. The last 4 years of history along with the recent sharp drop of the USD relative to other currencies might also find its way into a polished edition ready for the bookshelves at Borders or Barnes and Noble. It would also be interesting to see what sorts of competing interests in China, Russia, the Vatican or elsewhere might be lining up alongside or against the Fabians or the Lenninists. There is a lot to ponder here. I sense a larger cohesive picture but I cannot put it all together just yet.

Reading the book has gotten me thinking about Monte's threads on population reduction a little differently: I might try and look at those problems from the point of view of the so called illuminati and the tools at their disposal.

[NEOPO]

Forewords are good and so is reviving old threads.

I am glad to have been able to see many things on my own Monte, yet from these comments it sounds like a noble first effort that perhaps after several years of refinement should now be revised with the PMS' of the world in mind.
PM coming your way as the question I have for you is one of the "unmentionable's".

Chaparral - Yes please do as there seems to be a shortage of brains capable of running the "simulation" here. The more brains we have the better the average of the simulations. Few can see beyond the veil of greed for material things.

[waegari]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', ' ')Like another poster mentioned, addition of the burning of the Reichstag would help, .

[waegari]

The French edition of Van der Lubbe's travel diary, leading up to the Reichstag fire, can be found here: http://www.amazon.fr/Carnet-route-lince ... 334&sr=8-2

The thorough introduction, written from a leftist standpoint, makes a strong case against all possible conspiracy theories, concerning Van der Lubbe.

[chuck6877]

Monte,

I read your book in the past and loved it. It has made me explore so much more. Ruppert's book, "Crossing the Rubicon" had the same effect on me.

I really want to know how you feel about this:
Do you think peak oil is being used by the illuminati/secret govt. etc for population reduction and chaos to eventually bring about the New World Order in the future?

I find so much discussing how the elites want population reduction. It also is very apparent to me that peak oil is being allowed to happen. Any alternatives that would make a difference are being avoided. I think peak oil and complete collapse of the world economies is part of their plan........... When the dust settles the NWO will emerge to make things better....

Also, do you think the Illuminati is the center of control and that they manipulate groups like the neocons, CFR, etc. to do their work and to provide a pretty story for the people to digest that keeps the Illuminati's existence secret?

Thanks for your book,
Chuck

[Tanada]

Dohboi did you ever get around to reading this?

[onlooker]

Wow I did not know about this book by Monte. So glad to know one of "ours" has this mindset, which I myself have posted about in certain threads. Thank you Monte for writing this book and keeping in perspective world events and what lurks behind all of this. I will be writing you and asking for a copy if one still exists.