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Connecting the dots.

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 17:57:54

Well worth the read.

SLOW BOAT TO CHINA OR JUNK TALES TO DEBUNK? – THE SEQUEL

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is all highly consistent with the Simmons thesis on peak oil. This is also consistent with falling VLCC [crude tanker] rates from the Middle East to Asia - but not due to lack of demand in China – it looks like it’s all about constricted or diminished supply from the Middle East. Who would bother shipping oil if they could not refine it? Perhaps Matthew Simmons should stand up and take a bow? Maybe we’re already experiencing the ‘thin edge of the wedge’ where Peak Oil is concerned, dear reader. Better fill 'er up now while it’s still cheap or better yet, buy a bike and a pair of ear muffs! It might be a long cold winter.


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Re: Connecting the dots.

Unread postby MD » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 18:02:11

off topic but not off title: Does anyone actually make connect-the-dots pictures any more?

On topic:
Very interesting article, as is all content on Puplava's site
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Re: Connecting the dots.

Unread postby Eli » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 18:41:09

Nice article.

I think that is the key to the current situation few here will argue that we have reached Peak Light sweet crude. But the big thing that is being obfuscated and is not making it to the surface is that we cannot process the crappy heavy sulfur that is hitting the oil market right now.

The current problem in the oil market is worse than it appears to the average investor and broker they just read the numbers and move on. EIA numbers keep showing increasing stock piles of unrefined Oil but they do not make a distinction about what grade of oil is building up.

Saudi has said a few months ago that they were taking some oil off the market because the market did not want it, the oil was heavy sour.

So the EIA numbers are giving a false sense that things are not that bad. SA keeps talking about increasing production but all they have is heavy sour.

We do not have enough refinerys to process the light sweet we need let alone the heavy sour.

The numbers tomorrow from the EIA will show another big draw down on gasoline and an increase in inventory of unrefined oil but it will be the shite heavy sour that we cannot handle not the light sweet.

That is why I am still betting that things are going to get much much worse. In the light of the above light sweet crude is still undervalued.
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Re: Connecting the dots.

Unread postby rowante » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 20:35:38

Chris Vernon seems to be quite gifted at connecting the dots...

OPEC Reveal Global Light Sweet Crude Peaked
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lthough the total volume of ‘oil’ extracted in 2004 compared with 2000 has increased, the proportions of different grades of oil have shifted. Light sweet crude is the most attractive because it is easier to refine, global refining capacity is geared to light sweet crude of which there is now a shortage. This shift in grades has resulted in a shortage of refining capacity for the available medium/heavy sour oil and tough competition for the reduced amount of light sweet oil available.
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Re: Connecting the dots.

Unread postby SD_Scott » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 21:44:45

I read that last night. Very telling. That is a great site. I snoop around there every day.
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Re: Connecting the dots.

Unread postby seldom_seen » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 21:56:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'I') think that is the key to the current situation few here will argue that we have reached Peak Light sweet crude. But the big thing that is being obfuscated and is not making it to the surface is that we cannot process the crappy heavy sulfur that is hitting the oil market right now.

Yes, that is a huge point. I posted the thread Towards a heavy sour crude oil world postulating that we could hit a peak in light sweet, and then bounce along for a few years until refining capacity is able to catch up with the heavy crap. Whatever the case, I see the peak of light sweet as the peak. Or maybe another way to state it would be the end of the road for cheap oil. The heavy stuff will be harder to extract and more expensive to refine.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')hat is why I am still betting that things are going to get much much worse. In the light of the above light sweet crude is still undervalued.

I agree, I don't think the market has caught up to the real shituation.
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