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Re: Earthday Footprint quiz

Postby meekoil » Thu 18 Aug 2005, 00:51:55

FOOD 4.9

MOBILITY 0.5

SHELTER 7.4

GOODS/SERVICES 5.4

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 18

Got hit on Shelter cause me and the old lady share a 1600 Sq. ft. house.

And how is the GOODS/SERVICES number calculated anyway? From that one question and where you live? Dubious at best.
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Re: Earthday Footprint quiz

Postby turmoil » Thu 18 Aug 2005, 01:04:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tinosorb', 'I')f you reproduced 4 times and share your house with your offspring, you get a lower score. You should have a much higher impact if you spawned.

They don't say it has to be kids. If you share that space with that many adults (or kids), it would be much more efficient.
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Re: Earthday Footprint quiz

Postby Tyler_JC » Thu 18 Aug 2005, 01:29:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tinosorb', 'N')ot if you made those kids. Any marginal gains in housing efficiency will be offset by the fact that you created new Westernized consumers, presumably with lifestyles as destructive as your own, or possibly even more destructive.


Bingo.

The test should ask how many children you have.
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Re: Earthday Footprint quiz

Postby turmoil » Fri 19 Aug 2005, 19:17:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tinosorb', 'N')ot if you made those kids. Any marginal gains in housing efficiency will be offset by the fact that you created new Westernized consumers, presumably with lifestyles as destructive as your own, or possibly even more destructive.


Bingo.

The test should ask how many children you have.

yup.
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Re: Earthday Footprint quiz

Postby Blueberry » Fri 19 Aug 2005, 21:00:09

CATEGORY ACRES

FOOD 3.2

MOBILITY 0.7

SHELTER 2.7

GOODS/SERVICES 4

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 11 acres

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2.4 PLANETS.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby Tanada » Wed 09 Nov 2005, 13:29:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('julianj', 'I') know we like this sort of thing here,

Da Da Da! Here's the Ecological Footprint Quiz.

http://www.myfootprint.org/

Find out how much of the earth's resources you are taking up!

I scored 2.1 Hectares, as opposed to the UK's average of 5.3.

I'd be smugly congratulating myself, If I still wasn't overshooting the Earth's capacity of 1.8 Hectares per person by about 20%. :cry:

You only need to know what area your dwelling covers, all the rest of the questions are straightforward.




CATEGORY ACRES

FOOD 4.2

MOBILITY 0.5

SHELTER 6.9

GOODS/SERVICES 4.9

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 16



IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.




IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.7 PLANETS.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby IslandCrow » Wed 09 Nov 2005, 15:01:43

CATEGORY GLOBAL HECTARES
FOOD 1.4
MOBILITY 0.5
SHELTER 2
GOODS/SERVICES 2.2
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 6.1



IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 8.4 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 1.8 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.4 PLANETS. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Much work still to do! The page did not ask much about heating, which for the cold north is important (I know I have more work in this area). Also having just bought a place I have not yet had a crop from the garden. Feeling depressed --- thought I was further along than it seems I am.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby johnmarkos » Wed 09 Nov 2005, 16:10:09

How do they define "biologically productive?" Is farm land biologically productive? Is a tree farm?

Is it possible to use acreage without subtracting from the world's supply of biologically productive land? For example, if they build an oil rig in an already existing parking lot, the land is effectively dual use and they're not removing any new area from the biosphere.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Redefining Progress', 'T')oday, the biosphere has 26.7 billion acres (or 10.8 billion hectares) of biologically productive space corresponding to less than one-quarter of the planet's surface.


Does this count the oceans as biologically productive? How does this quiz take the use of resources under the sea into account?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for sustainability. I just think that this use of firm numbers is misleading and possibly bogus.
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Re: Earthday Footprint Quiz

Postby lonewolf » Wed 09 Nov 2005, 17:01:31

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Postby skyemoor » Wed 09 Nov 2005, 22:53:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilBurner', 'G')ot it down to one planet! :D

Trouble is...had to get a lodger in, everyone has to go vegan, everyone must travel using bicycles or on foot and we have to stop flying. :(
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2.8, but that's counting my work air travel.

without it; 2.3
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby Tanada » Thu 10 Nov 2005, 18:55:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('johnmarkos', 'H')ow do they define "biologically productive?" Is farm land biologically productive? Is a tree farm?

Is it possible to use acreage without subtracting from the world's supply of biologically productive land? For example, if they build an oil rig in an already existing parking lot, the land is effectively dual use and they're not removing any new area from the biosphere.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Redefining Progress', 'T')oday, the biosphere has 26.7 billion acres (or 10.8 billion hectares) of biologically productive space corresponding to less than one-quarter of the planet's surface.


Does this count the oceans as biologically productive? How does this quiz take the use of resources under the sea into account?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for sustainability. I just think that this use of firm numbers is misleading and possibly bogus.


Something I wonderd about is the land use deal, a great deal of land is good for grazing but not good for intensive agriculture but the test seems to asume if you eat free range meat twice a week you need several acrea's of land just for yourself. Growing up we raised a lot of poultry, enough for a meal every day of the week for a family of 5, on a one acre plot. Just because you eat meat does not mean you eat a whole chicken, or a huge pot roast, each.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby holmes » Fri 06 Jan 2006, 15:39:53

If we kept our fucking breeding rates down to an intelligent advanced level we could do almost anything we wanted and the earth would recycle the waste products and impacts.

I scored a 16.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby Daculling » Fri 06 Jan 2006, 16:43:35

I require a lot of acres for my food, guess that's why I need to lose weight... but much better than most Americans.

CATEGORY ACRES

FOOD 6.9

MOBILITY 1.2

SHELTER 2.7

GOODS/SERVICES 2.7

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 14

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby holmes » Fri 06 Jan 2006, 18:25:06

what got me was my aprtment. I figured this hole i live in would be low. I need to move down to the fucking homeless shanty down by the river.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby TheTurtle » Mon 23 Jan 2006, 23:07:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I')f we kept our fucking breeding rates down to an intelligent advanced level we could do almost anything we wanted and the earth would recycle the waste products and impacts.


"fucking breeding" ... isn't that redundant? :-D

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') scored a 16.


I scored an 8 ... despite happily eating meat each and every day. I just knew living in a tiny house and driving a tiny car would pay off some day! :roll:

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Oh well, if I get the chance to retire in a couple more years, I'll sell the car, build a green (and even smaller) house and raise a few chickens to supplement my foraging. I should be able to make it down to < 1.0 planet then. :)
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby rostov » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 10:24:47

FOOD 1.5
MOBILITY 1.1
SHELTER 0.5
GOODS/SERVICES 1.6
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 4.7

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 8.7 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 1.8 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2.6 PLANETS.


Time to power down. I wonder what the algorithm for the test is like? Wanna do this with pen and paper in days when there's no longer connection or hosting :)

Gives me a thought : wars or painful events reducing population is going to have a chance to hurt the environment as well....
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby MrBean » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 09:10:17

CATEGORY GLOBAL HECTARES
FOOD 1.1
MOBILITY 0.5
SHELTER 0.8
GOODS/SERVICES 1.5
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 3.9


IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 8.4 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 1.8 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2.2 PLANETS.
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Re: Ecological Footprint Quiz

Postby OilBurner » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 11:34:35

Bummer. Did this again, and less than 2 years on, I've gotten more resource hungry:


CATEGORY GLOBAL HECTARES
FOOD 1.8
MOBILITY 1.5
SHELTER 0.6
GOODS/SERVICES 1.6
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 5.5

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 5.3 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 1.8 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.1 PLANETS.


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