[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s for hating America, its by and large true. They bitch about our war, they bitch about us owning guns, they bitch about us being a capitalistic society, they bitch about us not having socialized healthcare, they bitch about us cracking down on illegal immigration, etc etc the list goes on.

What are you led to believe? That liberals love this country?

[killJOY]

THAT'S YOUR UPPER LIP.

[Jack]

Specop, Killjoy - you know, and I know, that you are not flaming each other, but are, instead, engaging in a bit of light-hearted repartee.

Alas, some of our newer members might be misled into thinking you are engaged in flaming.

So I trust that you'll both avoid adding more flames to the thread?

[killJOY]

Jack, here's a secret:




(the one on the right is me.)

[dmtu]

opposites attract.

[Specop_007]

I love killjoy!!



I want to have his baby!

[Specop_007]

You have to realize Killjoy, theres a VERY fine line between "For your country", "For your government" and "For your personal agenda".

One is often done under the guise of another.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')his country will not be free until Rush Limbaugh is strangled by the entrails of Michael Moore.

[seahorse2]

I don't think Rush is mimicking this Buckley guy. It goes further back than that, he's mimicking Herman Goering. Goering said what Rush is saying a long time ago. Here's a famous Goerging quote:

"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denouce the pacifist for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." This was said at the Nuremberg trials.

Pay close attention to the last sentence. Its exactly what is happening now with this "war on terror." This message is being repeated by Rush, O'Reilly, and Fox news everyday "the terrorist are after us, and if you don't support this war on terror, your putting the country at risk." This is taken directly from Goering.

Am I a liberal for being against this undefined "war on terror"? Am I against the war on terror if I'm against the war in Iraq? I'm not sure they are the same thing.

No matter how the above questions are answered, I find it hard to believe that I'm unpatriotic or a "liberal" just for being against the war in Iraq, when I did serve in the military, jumped out of planes the whole bit. So, how is Rush any more patriotic than I am. He didn't serve in Vietnam, trick knee. Was he unpatriotic then? What about Cheney, Rummy, Wolfo, none of them ever served, are they unpatriotic? Is there then a timeline for being a patriot? Maybe, if liberals are those that don't support the war, that just applies to any war after Reagen was elected. Or maybe, its based on age. Anyone that supports the war after they get to be 35 or older is a patriot, but anyone over that age that doesn't support the war a liberal (even if you previously served). What about my former platoon sergeant that just got back from a tour in Baghdad. He doesn't support the war, is he a liberal too? If so, how can he be a liberal and Rush a patriot? Rush has never done anything but talk into a mike high as a kite. How is that patriotic?

I guess, all germans proved themselves patriots when they stood bye and watched millions go to the death camps. If that's the definition of a patriot, then I'm a liberal. I'll go with that.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geology_Guy', 'W')ow-you guys sure are full of hate against Rush. You may not like him, but its a free country-where are the big name liberal radio talk show hosts? As far as I know all liberal talk shows have failed to attract much of an audiance-oh wait I forgot National Public Radio.

I was amused by the media being upset about the neighbor shooting off his shotgun. As far as I know owning and shooting a shotgun on a private ranch in TX is still legal as is dove hunting, but I guess those big city repprters would not know much about dove hunting!

[EnemyCombatant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geology_Guy', 'W')ow-you guys sure are full of hate against Rush. You may not like him, but its a free country-where are the big name liberal radio talk show hosts? As far as I know all liberal talk shows have failed to attract much of an audiance-oh wait I forgot National Public Radio.

I was amused by the media being upset about the neighbor shooting off his shotgun. As far as I know owning and shooting a shotgun on a private ranch in TX is still legal as is dove hunting, but I guess those big city repprters would not know much about dove hunting!

[whiteknight]

Well, I have to say this thread must be dying...

Rush = Nazi

When you start calling folks Nazis you know the argement has reached the "I know you are but what am I" level...

Conservatives are no more "patriotic" than Liberals and visa versa. They have diffearnt views of where the country should be going and those two views are pretty much mutualy excluisive of eachother. I dont think we need to detail those differances any more than we need to explain the diffearacne between night and day.

As for rudeness, I think Limbaugh simply has more volume. Take a listen to Air America Radio sometime and hear what a Randi Rhodes has to say. If you dont think she is the most hate filled person in America you are far too much of a die hard liberal and likely think that all the evil and rot in this country started in January of 2001. That woman is just as bad if not worse than anything the right turns out.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('whiteknight', 'W')ell, I have to say this thread must be dying...

Rush = Nazi

When you start calling folks Nazis you know the argement has reached the "I know you are but what am I" level...

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[TheSupplyGuy]

True, liberals and conservatives(and everyone else, there are more choices than Pepsi or Coke) both support America for the most part, and want to see it do well, but have different visions and opinions of what route to take to achieve that success and the path we should be on.

[Geology_Guy]

Out here in Kansas its almost dove season as it is in Texas. I am amazed that there aren't more shotguns going off around Bush's ranch. Have you ever been in the country on the first morning of deer season? It sounds like WW-III. I suppose all the protesters will be gone by deer season. This reminds me-I need to get out the 12 gauge and clean it.

DOVE SEASON JUST AROUND THE CORNER
Highly-anticipated Sept. 1 opener requires preparation

PRATT -- Ranging from Mexico to Canada and coast to coast, the mourning dove is the most popular, abundant, and widespread game bird in North America. Its adaptability and high reproductive rate have allowed its population to flourish in both agricultural and urban areas, making it one of the most common birds in Kansas, especially in summer and early fall. The Kansas dove season is Sept. 1-Oct. 14 and Nov. 1-16. The daily bag limit is 15, and the possession limit is 30.

Twelve- or 20-gauge shotguns with improved cylinder or modified chokes are the most popular combinations. Smaller shotguns such as .410 and 28-gauge are suitable for the expert shot, but beginning dove hunters may find these smaller gauges discouraging because their smaller shot charges reduce the chances for bringing down game.

[whiteknight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')I don't think we're calling 'folks' Nazis, we're identifying the the right volk as Nazi.

[EnemyCombatant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ut here in Kansas its almost dove season as it is in Texas. I am amazed that there aren't more shotguns going off around Bush's ranch. Have you ever been in the country on the first morning of deer season? It sounds like WW-III. I suppose all the protesters will be gone by deer season. This reminds me-I need to get out the 12 gauge and clean it.

[Geology_Guy]

I assure you sir it is no lie-dove season is quickly approaching and the Waco/Crawford area will be right in the middle of it! I would not want to be camped out in a field in the Crawford, TX area when the season starts, but I suppose all the protesters will scare the birds away.
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[fossil_fuel]

lol, i love the double meaning - "dove hunting", as in the bird, or "doves" as in those who are anti-war? that's great.

[EnemyCombatant]

OK, geology guy is off his rocker.

You don't practice dove hunting throughout the middle of the night.