[Kylon]

Some of us have neurological medical conditions, such as epilepsy. Anyway, that requires petro based oil technologies which we won't have in the future.

So I was thinking that I might look into TMS, or transcranial magnetic stimulation, as a possible treatment for a post peak world.

The machines are expensive(40k), so I'd probably just build my own, and collect info on the machines.

Essentially what it does is it directly stimulates(or de-stimulates) different parts of the brain via magnetic field pulses. This can come in handy if X's trying to de-stimulate X's brain when X has a seizure, or for schizophrenia or bipolar(stimulating certain parts of the brain soaks up dopamine), or for ADHD(stimulating concentration parts of the brain, such as the anterior cingulate gyrus can improve concentration). It can also be used to increase the rate of learning and creativity.

However, I am not advising you to do so, this isn't medical advice, as it is an experimental technology, and you are completely and totally legally responsible for any harm you may encounter using this machine, or any damages you may incur from using this information, and do so with the knowledge that this is probably a vary dangerous technology and should not be used without a legally certified medical practioners approval.

It's just something I am looking into.

[Heineken]

I think we'll be returning to very basic medicine, such as existed in the 1930s or earlier, and that the medical specialties (neurology, cardiology, gastroenterology, etc.) and the allied health care fields (pharmacy, nursing, physical therapy, etc.) will vanish. The system can barely afford them now, and there'll be no place for them in a scaled-down, post-PO society. Unfortunately, this is very bad news for people with specialized health care needs, such as highly advanced surgical procedures, sophisticated diagnostic tests, and orphan-type drugs.

[wildsparrow]

I am very worried about a close relative who has a fairly serious psychiatric disorder and cannot operate as a sane person without one or two crucial drugs - anti-psychotics and something else.

What on earth will happen to people like this, post peak-oil?

[Heineken]

They will sicken and they may die, I'm sorry to say. Many people are going to die. Remember that the earth's carrying capacity for humans has been artificially expanded by fossil-fuel exploitation in all its forms. That artificial expansion is but temporary. Without fossil fuels, the earth's carrying capacity for people is something like 2 billion, according to Heinberg and others. Well, we've got 6.5 billion now.

[Ludi]

It's going to be very hard on those of us who depend on medications to either survive or to have any quality of life worth mentioning. We have to look into alternative treatments, but I don't know if those will really help.

"They will die" is the easy answer. Some conditions, such as psychosis, aren't necessarily fatal.

[Ludi]

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"They will die" is the easy answer. Some conditions, such as psychosis, aren't necessarily fatal.

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"They will die" is the easy answer. Some conditions, such as psychosis, aren't necessarily fatal.

[Heineken]

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"They will die" is the easy answer. Some conditions, such as psychosis, aren't necessarily fatal.

[Kylon]

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[wildsparrow]

Thanks for your input Kylon. I do appreciate your efforts to help. I don't think my relative would condone sucking out the brains of someone else whether living or dead. Without being in the least facetious I think she'd rather die than do that.

[JBinKC]

You potentially will have to be treated with traditional methods like using Dilantin.

[BorneoRagnarok]

Kylon is crazy. Hey! he is the one who start this neurological Medical Condition thread. Why don't you just eat some good food and follow this Doctor Mercola advice.

www.mercola.com

Sucking brain !! What an idea. Here in Borneo, pig brain is an expensive delicacy. Last time, before JE and H5N1 pandemic , we use to eat them after boiling them with ginger soup. It is so tasty. However, you need to spend at least 2 hours to pull out all the blood vessels first. Or you spend your daily salary for a small bowl.

Traditional herbs medicine are useful too. Acupuncture and violent message help too. Who need Western medicine ?? I can safely said that I don't take any factory made medicine for 10 years already with the exception of 4 Panadol in January 2004. Let me see. Don't eat ANY junk food , junk drinks, don't smoke, don't drink, don't eat overnight meat, sleep 9 hours a day..

After peak oil, there will be less traffic accidents that really required modern medicine and technology. Some screws in your bones. No thanks.. I knew a few robo men around most of them have some screws in them due to car accidents.

[kelee877]

Have you ever thought that these types of behaviours are brought on by this type of societywe are living in and when the SHTF they will do better of then the rest of us...depression is caused by the way the world functions now..it was a disorder brought on by the 80-90,s...and has progressed more since then..I am not the Jones thinking...
And when and IF(which is more then likely)the SHTF...they will better off with coping skills then the other billions that will be without food..your neighbour who was normal and courties will turn into a leach at your door or possibly slit your throat..I would rather be in a room with someone who has been diganosed with a condtion and be familier with it..then with my neighbour who might kill me over the last peice of bread..