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A thought

Unread postby harlanater » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 04:31:46

After reading all of the comments listed above, I have one question for you, What are we trying to save? The endless enchantment of chaos exists for only one reason. Humans are afraid of death. Society is the stategy allowing everyone to live. No one has to leave or suffer on earth if we create this facade around us so we will feel safe. Fear is the most influential emotion in human beings and the fear of death is the strongest. Our knowledge of death is a gift and a curse for it inspires us yet haunts us. We will all experience it someday but everyone only does it once. But society does not offer comfort to the wide eyed and aware, it only serves as the means to control us. Our one chance to live we must live in chains to the hand of the system. Imagine a world where you could be set free of endless hours giving to the system and enjoy the moments. Maybe even a new system could replace the old one, something not so complex that leaves more room to breathe. If we see the world through human eyes yes than its time to fear. But if we step outside our human concepts and ideals we may understand that it is time to rest.

"The emptiness flowers about
Like the fog in the north hills
Though your wandering eye can revitalize
Your hand cannot grasp"

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Re: A thought

Unread postby Doly » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 04:40:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('harlanater', 'I')f we see the world through human eyes yes than its time to fear. But if we step outside our human concepts and ideals we may understand that it is time to rest.


Sorry, but I only have human eyes. I abandoned my reptile eyes a few million years ago.
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Re: A thought

Unread postby harlanater » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 04:46:41

Well maybe all you need is to take more of an anti-anthropocentric glance
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Re: A thought

Unread postby turmoil » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 04:49:18

harlanater,

i think what you are getting at is species-wide, simultaneous evolution. I'd love that to happen. I think that would 'save' the world. But no species has done this before, thats all.

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Re: A thought

Unread postby evilmonkeyspanker » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 04:50:22

uhm okay... no matter what government you have or don't have there will always be those the take advantage and do everything in thier power to control the rest. Even if this utopian society would be possible there are just too many obstacles it its way
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Re: A thought

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 09:31:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('harlanater', ' ')Our one chance to live we must live in chains to the hand of the system. Imagine a world where you could be set free of endless hours giving to the system and enjoy the moments. Maybe even a new system could replace the old one, something not so complex that leaves more room to breathe.


I think a new system is quite possible. Many people spend "endless hours giving to the system" because they think they have to. Maybe some do; maybe some are really trapped. Those of us privileged to post on this forum probably aren't as trapped as all that. I tend to go on and on about how little I work for the system, but it's true, I only work an average of a couple of hours a day for the system, the rest of my time I spend trying to build another system. Eventually, if enough people work on the new system, it will be there for us, and we can just let the old one die.
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