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"The World Is Flat" Thomas Friedman

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"The World Is Flat" Thomas Friedman

Unread postby jmacdaddio » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 01:23:30

This book contains the usual Friedman gee-whiz globalization drivel. Crap like "a French manager at a Mexican factory took his Brazilian wife to a Thai restaurant in London on their first date" pops up too often.

Mixed in with the drivel is some good analysis of India and China. India is becoming the outsourcing center for the world - they will gladly take pieces of your operations off your hands. China is becoming the off-shoring center for the world - they will gladly manufacture whatever you want.

I'm about 1/3 of the way through. So far it's worth the effort, but I know the dedicated doomers here won't like it.
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Unread postby honeylocust » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 01:41:25

I heard the beginning of an NPR interview on CAFTA. A professor of economics/poly sci was promoting it. I thought, hey buddy, how about the university outsource teaching courses via internet to India and fire you. My tuition will be cheaper. :twisted: :twisted:

Globalization is clearly a massive error in many circumstances, besides which it shall be destroyed post peak. Thomas Friedman is an excellent manifestation of consensus trance insanity. :evil: :(
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Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 03:49:42

I've heard it's an enormous load of twaddle.
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Unread postby jaws » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 01:56:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'I')'ve heard it's an enormous load of twaddle.

http://www.nypress.com/18/16/news&columns/taibbi.cfm
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n an ideological level, Friedman's new book is the worst, most boring kind of middlebrow horseshit. If its literary peculiarities could somehow be removed from the equation, The World Is Flat would appear as no more than an unusually long pamphlet replete with the kind of plug-filled, free-trader leg-humping that passes for thought in this country. It is a tale of a man who walks 10 feet in front of his house armed with a late-model Blackberry and comes back home five minutes later to gush to his wife that hospitals now use the internet to outsource the reading of CAT scans. Man flies on planes, observes the wonders of capitalism, says we're not in Kansas anymore. (He actually says we're not in Kansas anymore.) That's the whole plot right there. If the underlying message is all that interests you, read no further, because that's all there is.

It's impossible to divorce The World Is Flat from its rhetorical approach. It's not for nothing that Thomas Friedman is called "the most important columnist in America today." That it's Friedman's own colleague at the New York Times (Walter Russell Mead) calling him this, on the back of Friedman's own book, is immaterial. Friedman is an important American. He is the perfect symbol of our culture of emboldened stupidity. Like George Bush, he's in the reality-making business. In the new flat world, argument is no longer a two-way street for people like the president and the country's most important columnist. You no longer have to worry about actually convincing anyone; the process ends when you make the case.
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Unread postby eastbay » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 04:17:27

I saw/heard a few minutes of him as he discussed him book on CSPAN last night at around 3am after I got home from work... I had a serious negative gut reaction to his ding-dong nonsense and was sent scurrying around in a mad scrabble to find my wife's air sickness medication.

Joking here... I never take medication for such things...
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Unread postby JB2 » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 13:49:20

I can't post my own review of this book since I am unable to digest more than a few paragraphs of Friedman-speak at a time. Here's a good review I found online - with a bonus mention of peak oil:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18154#fnr4
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Unread postby jmacdaddio » Mon 08 Aug 2005, 22:58:55

I finished this book while on holiday. I'll do the best I can to mention highlights so people here can avoid reading it. While some parts were hard to stomach, Friedman does acknowledge a few problems facing America:

1. US education is in a crisis. We are not producing enough innovators to keep our edge, and foreign talent is losing economic incentive to come here even if they can get past the long visa waits post-Sept. 11.

2. US busniness is focusing on hitting quarterly results at the expense of long-term development.

3. He devotes a chapter to the problem of energy, but doesn't acknowledege PO. Also he doesn't seem to realize that lower manufacturing costs is only part of the China equation: low-wage, low-regulation countries need cheap transport fuel to send their cheaply made products overseas to midwestern Wal-Marts.

Be wary if your job function or industry is something that can be easily done anywhere on the planet. If you are inflexible in your career plans you will find yourself without a job sooner or later. We are in an age of commoditization where price is the driver and not features or quality. China is determined to become a superpower and in less than a generation they will no longer be content to make our cheap junk - they have plans to become world leaders in science, technology, engineering, etc. Bush and friends aren't helping the US prepare for the long haul: education and the ability to attract talent are critical for success rather than putting up walls and choosing bombs over classrooms.
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