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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 01 Jan 2026, 18:15:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'S')ilver will the story of 2026


Haven't seen silver...or gold....in any stories of importance of late. Good thing you don't care what its worth and just like to watch the price move around. I'm wondering how much of a haircut on spot price I'd have to take if I sold all my gold in bulk, if only to get more into the markets where returns are better. :lol:
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 02 Jan 2026, 00:12:28

140% silver increase in 2025 was just the opening act. Going much higher in 2026. $100 by the end of Q1.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 02 Jan 2026, 03:54:03

Thankfully the precious metals have taken a pause, hardly a retraction, just a well needed pause. As they say, nothing goes straight up unless it's a CNSA rocket launch. I doubt it will double again from here this year. It's played it's catchup against the G-S ratio and made up it's inflation gains. All the rest is just speculation by the investment community that has this entrenched bubble thinking they can't seem to move past. Certainly the stockmarket in the US is in a bubble, a HUGE one too. Even logical stocks like Caterpillar have gone off the reservation. It's price has doubled in the last 6 months, Doubled! The last time it did that was back in 2006-7 as a response to peakOil. Then it dropped in the GFC but quickly came back to retain it's new value. Money printing, it has to go somewhere. But it's not like mining has doubled in the last year, there is not huge demand suddenly for D10's. Quite the opposite probably.

CAT really took a leg up with Covid (money printing). It's pretty simple, you double the amount of money in circulation and a dollar bill loses half it's value. The end result is that prices of everything double. And if they haven't doubled, then look at the size, it will be smaller, look at the quality, it will be cheaper. The FDA was going to classify McDonald's food as confectionery because of all the corn sugar in it. Then maccas put the pickle on the burgers and that tipped the balance. Honey Bees live on sugar. Do you think you're a Honey Bee?

Oh, why did CAT go up? AI of course, or so they suggest.
Caterpillar Stock Is an Unlikely AI Play as Data Center Power Demand Surges
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 02 Jan 2026, 18:00:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '1')40% silver increase in 2025 was just the opening act. Going much higher in 2026. $100 by the end of Q1.

Fascinating. Pure GENIUS on your part, deciding to never sell because it is just a game to watch it move around.

What is it they call unrealized value? Oh yeah...the value of your (and my) gold to date.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 02 Jan 2026, 21:15:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '1')40% silver increase in 2025 was just the opening act. Going much higher in 2026. $100 by the end of Q1.

Fascinating. Pure GENIUS on your part, deciding to never sell because it is just a game to watch it move around.

What is it they call unrealized value? Oh yeah...the value of your (and my) gold to date.



I don’t have a 401k. I decided to put my savings in gold and silver 6-7 years at $1200 gold and $14 silver. Pretty happy.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 00:31:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
')I don’t have a 401k.


WHAT!!!! You decided to rely exclusively on the Sugar Momma when it came to regular retirement needs, like manly man trucks and villas in Naples! What happens if some other guy shows up with a MORE manly man truck! And who has enough firing neurons to understand how evolution works?

Unfortunate that you never had the chance to get tax free savings, I have found it quite lucrative myself, it is like....untaxed! Plus employers will like...MATCH my savings with free extra money! It is like a raise that just doubles my savings!

Getting a sugar momma certainly isn't a bad deal if your employer over the years didn't think you as an employee were worth setting up with your own stash.

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I decided to put my savings in gold and silver 6-7 years at $1200 gold and $14 silver. Pretty happy.


Too bad you bought it all so expensive, the gold anyway. You can keep the dinky pretend precious stuff, what is it good for except molding bullets to load as vampire rounds maybe?
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 01:03:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
')I don’t have a 401k.


WHAT!!!! You decided to rely exclusively on the Sugar Momma when it came to regular retirement needs, like manly man trucks and villas in Naples! What happens if some other guy shows up with a MORE manly man truck! And who has enough firing neurons to understand how evolution works?

Unfortunate that you never had the chance to get tax free savings, I have found it quite lucrative myself, it is like....untaxed! Plus employers will like...MATCH my savings with free extra money! It is like a raise that just doubles my savings!

Getting a sugar momma certainly isn't a bad deal if your employer over the years didn't think you as an employee were worth setting up with your own stash.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', ' ')
I decided to put my savings in gold and silver 6-7 years at $1200 gold and $14 silver. Pretty happy.


Too bad you bought it all so expensive, the gold anyway. You can keep the dinky pretend precious stuff, what is it good for except molding bullets to load as vampire rounds maybe?



I have enough PM’s to last 3 lifetimes. Plus, we’ve been going out since HS. I think I’m safe lol.

I’ve been self employed since I was 20. Owned a nice construction company. Retired last Jan 1
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 02:38:38

Running your own business is certainly the way to get ahead in life, it's either that or you're on a mousewheel and praying your 401k doesn't collapse like it did in 2008. When I began buying Gold around 2004 I knew a guy who owned a string of laundromats. He was a Gold Bug too, Krugerrands of all things. He wasn't so much preparing for a collapse in the paper system but was just hiding wealth. A hell of a lot of cash came through his doors, it was all cash in fact. He taught me a lot, especially about writing off tax on high ticket items.

401k and the like are mandated by law for the little people, the worker bees. They think they have been given some free money with them but every cent was theirs to begin with, the employer contributions simply made up out of the wage increases they would have got had they not been shafted! And now all that money is in the hands of faceless men that dine at $1000 a plate restaurants. That pension money is there to make the rich richer as they access it NOW to push up share prices and build shell companies that inevitably vanish over night. How much pension money was siphoned off in the SPAC collapse? In the collapse of all the EV builders across the nation? In the write offs made by the shale bubble companies? In the dotcom bubble? Private pensions are a Joke and the Joke is on those counting on them being there through retirement years.



Silver was clearly the choice back in 2004, and has been for most of this ride. It's upside potential was vast. 50/50, Gold and Silver, that was the rule. I have some private superannuation money in an account, from the early 80's when I was still working for the man. But it's nothing and has hardly tripled in all this time. My early precious metals gains dwarfed it in just a couple of years.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 13:47:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
')I have enough PM’s to last 3 lifetimes.

Well, OBVIOUSLY as you yourself have stated you didn't get it to sell, only to have fun watching the value change. So you could live 100 lifetimes and it'll do nothing but sit there, duh.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
')Plus, we’ve been going out since HS. I think I’m safe lol.


At your age, probably. Nothing wrong with hitting the "good wife" jackpot, I've been lucky that way as well. And as an afterthought, I don't even know how to measure my gold in terms of "lifetimes" when neither one us are selling it. Uncle Sam doesn't know I have it, so keeping it out of official documentation as it moves down the generations is my main concern.




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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 13:55:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'R')unning your own business is certainly the way to get ahead in life, it's either that or you're on a mousewheel and praying your 401k doesn't collapse like it did in 2008.


How amusing you forget to mention how those 401k's then came back, and then some. Cherry picking moron alert!

The "run your own business" route wasn't for me. It was great for tax benefits/deductions to some extent, but after doing it drilling wells for the majors for a couple years it just didn't fit. It was great when working international, but you had to stay out of the country for like 330 days out of 360 or something to dodge paying US taxes legally.

So getting ahead in life required no owning my own business here. Maybe it works better in Australia for single dads without even a high school education or the ability to think their way out of a wet paper bag. But they can hammer nails into wood or something, bend bananas faster than others, etc etc.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 16:28:27

What's the troll talking about? He doesn't even own any Gold, or Silver.
Wannabees pretending so they don't feel left out. Enjoy your 401k, while you can.

9.3 Million Americans Work Multiple Jobs To Make Ends Meet
That’s the daily reality for millions of Americans, for whom one job is no longer enough to pay rent, put food on the table and cover other expenses.
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And they are the Lucky ones! The others who didn't plan for the future either are taking their tents and setting up camp wherever they can. What most people consider "their plan" for the future is actually the corporate world's plan for their future. They have little to no control over these funds, Oh they think they do, they can choose all manner of different programs, but these all put their life savings in the paper markets controlled by the Blob. They still talk about diversification like it's a magic spell. But who didn't take a big hit in the GFC? They all did because all the boats went down on that tide.

One of the Lies commonly believed is that 'they' won't let the system collapse because 'they' would lose too much. Behind this little bit of social engineering is the trope that bezos, Musk, et al actually consider their posted net worth as being their real net worth. It isn't, and they don't. Those figures are just their to instill confidence in the market, to make people believe that a $1.2 Trillion valuation for small car maker is acceptable. If Musk wasn't uber wealthy as claimed on the TV people might begin to think that valuation was a bit unreal :lol:

Their real wealth is derived by selling their share of these companies off as time passes, the simple fact that they couldn't sell it all and walk away without the company collapsing tells it all. So they are happy to pretend they are worth nearly a trillion dollars, they don't care. It's just another way of normalizing the ludicrous valuations and downplaying the ludicrous debts. So when the average Joe looks at his his 401k and sees a digital figure of $500,000 sitting there he adds this to the value of his home and considers himself rich too. And so he is, in the paper terms of a mad bubble economy at the end of greatest debt expansion the world has ever seen.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 18:13:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')hat's the troll talking about? He doesn't even own any Gold, or Silver.
Wannabees pretending so they don't feel left out. Enjoy your 401k, while you can.


I've got both. The 401k has done quite well, even across a shorter time period than the Krugerrands. What kind of half wit wouldn't take advantage of the free money offered by employers to put into a 401k, or the ability for it to deduct from taxable income? Oh wait I know! Uneducated halfwits in Australia who never learned how to count because they dropped out of school before that was taught!
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 21:23:31

Curious to see how PM’s react to the toppling of Maduro. We are in a global resource war and silver is just as vital as oil. The entire modern civilization requires silver to function. EV’s, solar panels, AI data bases, phones, iPads, etc. We are using 1.2B oz and only producing 850 million oz and this structural deficit will only get worse.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 21:44:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'C')urious to see how PM’s react to the toppling of Maduro. We are in a global resource war and silver is just as vital as oil. The entire modern civilization requires silver to function. EV’s, solar panels, AI data bases, phones, iPads, etc. We are using 1.2B oz and only producing 850 million oz and this structural deficit will only get worse.


Sounds pretty bad. Almost like the horrors of peak oil unleashed upon the world 20 years ago when you thought that you would need those PMs to do....something...with.

You do know that PM's are inanimate...and don't...react...to anything? Right? Just checking...fools who think Ruppert knew anything and others who pretend evolution doesn't exist because doze whales, dey be all bigly, might also think that PMs are....animate..somehow. As opposed to silly monkeys following whatever the herd think is to drive values up or down. Just saying. :lol:
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sun 04 Jan 2026, 00:38:32

I just stated facts. Nothing really to debate.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 04 Jan 2026, 00:55:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'C')urious to see how PM’s react to the toppling of Maduro. We are in a global resource war and silver is just as vital as oil.

I doubt it will have any effect. They were not big exporters, of anything actually. A pretty impoverished nation state given all their resources. The collapse of the $US system and the takeover by the BRICS is the driving factors I see. Silver and Gold traditionally move as a set and Gold is being hoarded by the BRICS for their reserve currency machinations. The only reason the $US was accepted as the reserve was the fact that held most of the Gold after WWII. That worked well till 1970, then the paper chase began. It always happens this way, Britain was in deep debt on the eve of WWI and totally bankrupt by WWII.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 04 Jan 2026, 10:13:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I') just stated facts. Nothing really to debate.


Obviously you don't know what a fact is. Let me demonstrate...and for the record, you don't have to make this so EASY.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '
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Please point out when the President of the United States declared this war, and where our troops are currently fighting to acquire the mines and resuorces of the rest of the countries in the world. Perhaps some photos? Of US troops raiding the banks and storage locations where other countries store their silver, and are shipping it home.
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sun 04 Jan 2026, 10:50:17

That’s too stupid to even respond to
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sun 04 Jan 2026, 11:05:43

Next you’ll tell me that Venezuela isn’t about oil
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Re: THE Silver & Gold Thread (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 04 Jan 2026, 11:15:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'T')hat’s too stupid to even respond to


Questions that highlight the ignorance of the claimant tend to bring out that response. I'm watching Sec of State Rubio have the same problem on TV with George Stephanopolous right now.

Even smart people get jammed up by simple logic, so don't feel bad it is so easy to do to you.
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