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THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 22 Nov 2025, 11:23:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I')f only I'd been in charge of this, I could have saved the world trillions of dollars in stranded assets.


The uneducated descendants of inbred prison colony DNA material with skills focused on the fine art of banana bending aren't the type you put in charge of anything.

Have you ever driven an EV? Or is all your whining the usual "speaking from a position of ignorance" that defines your posting? You haven't been able to refute a single point by any posting EV owner on this board. Be it Careinke and their experience with the newest or coolest, or mine with hundreds of thousands of miles of use across a decade now.

I think we all accept that you speak from a position of ignorance, but do you really have to keep proving it? We all are convinced...I promise.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 12 Dec 2025, 09:57:55


While official sales figures are yet to be confirmed
, Reuters reports, citing data from Cox Automotive, that Tesla sold 23% fewer electric vehicles in the US in November than it did a year earlier. Specifically, US sales fell from 51,513 units in November 2024 to 39,800 vehicles.

Well all very predictable due to the pulling of subsidies, but really folks, if the battcar was the future and soooo great, why would a price increase stop adopters? It's not like they have to pay for them upfront, look at Inke's buy on a low interest loan. You just add another year or so to your loan and off you drive. No the reality is they are a dead duck outside of inner-city hipsters, bored and wanting a 'new' experience. Techno junkies that dream of holidays on the moon, sipping champagne with Elon Muck. But the rest of the world just wants to get to work and don't want the stress of all the downsides, especially not with the Brutal US winter there. The heaters running must be cutting ranges in half!

What does GoOgLe Ay eye say? ? used lipo batteries piling up in us
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')es, used lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries are
piling up in the US, creating significant challenges related to safety and sustainability, but also opportunities for a domestic recycling industry. Improper disposal is a major issue, contributing to waste facility fires and environmental concerns

See, it was all Lies from the very start! There is no push for recycling because there is no money in it. Landfills full of useless eight year old Battcars. No nationwide seamless supercharger networks, no cheap battery replacements. Just millions of cars with their ranges diminishing year by year until the car is basically worthless.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 12 Dec 2025, 23:35:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Well all very predictable due to the pulling of subsidies, but really folks, if the battcar was the future and soooo great, why would a price increase stop adopters?


Don't know. Smart folks bought brand new ones at $0.40 on the dollar.

12000 miles and....taking it in for its second tire rotation tomorrow. Haven't done a thing to it since I drove it off the dealership lot except.....its first tire rotation. Maybe I put a quart of windshield wiper fluid in it? Maybe.

Sure beats the other old dinosaurs people drive that they keep dumping all those expensive fuels and oil changes and spark plugs and air filters and stuff into. What is it you call folks who spend tons of money they don't have to on useless stuff others don't? Suckers?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 13 Dec 2025, 09:56:40

As EVs get older, the batteries progressively degrade. It is expected that at around 75% of the battery's original capacity, it has reached the end of its life in an EV.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Tesla Cybertruck is widely labeled a "flop" by many analysts due to significantly missed production targets (aiming for 250k/year, hitting under 40k in 2024), numerous quality recalls (panel gaps, falling panels), quality issues (build, range inconsistency), high price vs. promises, and polarizing reception, leading to disappointing sales and dealer lot accumulation despite initial hype, though it's still a niche, high-profile vehicle with loyal fans

Fans :lol: Like decrepit old Boomers who go to concerts to see decrepit old bands sweating away as they stand still croaking out songs from the 60's. As a Gen-Xer I just don't get it? Why don't the Boomers grow up, act their age.

This is good, love the spin lol
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ivian has implemented production cuts through job layoffs and operational streamlining, cutting about 1.5% of its workforce (around 225 people) in September 2025 to boost efficiency for its upcoming R2 SUV launch

Ahhh, efficency :P If the Tesla has a fanbase the Rivian more so. The dimwits buying that are all over themselves, posting pictures by rivers enjoying wine and cheese on the tailgate. They are like bitcoiners, nothing matters but HODL. Hodl that R1 at all costs and add extras to it.

Of course there are the poor, the scum off the bottom of the consumer barrel that commute to and from the local mall in their Nissan leafs. They actually think they are far above the rest because of the electrons they are saving by never going over 35mph lol. Sitting in the carport by their charge controllers, watching the digits flick over, logbook in hand.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 13 Dec 2025, 11:20:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')s EVs get older, the batteries progressively degrade. It is expected that at around 75% of the battery's original capacity, it has reached the end of its life in an EV.


A true statement extrapolated by a parrot into anti-EV jealousy because of the lack of maintenance and miniscule fuel costs compared to the cubic dollars their gas guzzler sucks down.

Just stay a sucker Lucky, seems like you were born to it and without a normal amount of firing neurons, you'll stay that way.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 13 Dec 2025, 23:35:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzRNTObNHQ
Total EVidiot tries to dis people complaining about there Battcars and falls flat on his face. His basic message? Twist yourself into a pretsel and it won't be that bad. "if your stopping a lot on an 8 hour trip and getting ripped off for charging you're just not doing it right, you should be charging at your Hotel for free. A hotel? on an 8 hour trip?

He looks like a Democrat. I think most Battcar owners are Democrats.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 14 Dec 2025, 11:59:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Total EVidiot tries to dis people complaining about there Battcars and falls flat on his face.


Second tire rotation on BatCar. (I like that...I've got...a BATCAR!) It was free. <yawn>

Someone remind me, what is the current view from the parrots with no experience with them? Oh, who cares, they are just happy paying AUS $1.63/L because their country can't produce oil any better than a couple dozen US wells in the Permian.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 15 Dec 2025, 07:21:32

The British government has introduced two new types of taxes on electric vehicles, the implementation of standard Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) from April 2025, and a new "pay-per-mile" road tax intended to offset declining fuel duty revenue as more drivers switch to electric cars.

It's sort of like having been bullied into getting the the covid vax and then having your medical insurance jump up because now you're now at risk of cancer and heart complaints. Zero sympathy for both categories, the EVidiots and the Branch Covidians.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 15 Dec 2025, 11:11:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he British government has introduced two new types of taxes on electric vehicles, the implementation of standard Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) from April 2025, and a new "pay-per-mile" road tax intended to offset declining fuel duty revenue as more drivers switch to electric cars.


Free peoples don't care what your masters are doing, cheerlead them all you'd like. After all, it is required by all cowards who service a King on their knees.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 16 Dec 2025, 11:32:40

I wonder what kub would say to this one.

Ford Takes Record $19.5 Billion Charge As EV Bet Implodes
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')hares of Ford in New York have yet to hit a new high since the debut of the all-electric F-150 Lightning in April 2022. What was pitched as a flagship EV push has since devolved into an epic miscalculation, with the automaker now preparing to take $19.5 billion in charges, mostly in the fourth quarter, as it unwinds and overhauls its electric vehicle strategy.

Ford is overhauling its entire electrification roadmap. The reset includes the cancellation of three future EV programs, the termination of the current F-150 Lightning, and a shift toward new offerings across multiple power-trains, including a future extended-range hybrid vehicle variant of the F-Series.

So, finally pulling in line with the Japanese and building Half-breed Gasoline burners. Fucking Idiots, All this shit came out of America, as all the Shit always does, and they drag the rest of the world along with them. Their cars were crap were to begin with and then this! And don't get me started on their motorcycles, the laughing stock of the Planet. The sooner the Russians and the Chinese take over the show the better. At least they still have homosexuals classed as criminals and don't have democrats running half the place. Sure Trump is in power, but he's useless, the faggots over there will vote the Queer party back in again next time and that will the final nail in the coffin. I just thank God I live on the other side of the planet!
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 16 Dec 2025, 15:22:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') wonder what kub would say to this one.

Ford Takes Record $19.5 Billion Charge As EV Bet Implodes


Probably that one manufacturer trying to pitch a monster F150 EV wasn't the best strategy when smaller electrics like mine are the bee's knee's when it comes to low cost, durability, lack of operating costs and whatnot. But Ford had to go for the big pitch. I have seen GM EV Hummers, which are huge, and undoubtedly expensive without subsidies. I don't get them any different than the F150 Lightning. Some people just like monster stuff I guess. The kind of nonsense Lucky falls for, "look at my big car/truck/motorcycle which makes up for my lack of brain power and size of my manhood" type response. I think guys do it a bunch, and neoNazis even more than most.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 17 Dec 2025, 05:49:22

As of November 2025,
Ford's total U.S. sales for the year-to-date reached approximately 1,904,360 vehicles

As of November 2025
estimated total U.S. Tesla sales are around 523,000 units

Four times as many cars sold. A BIG player. And they are pulling out of battcars? Half a million bewitched Telsa fans buying by brand and the BS made in america meme. Buying the cars near cost because of Musk's aggressive price cuts. Well it's all over now with the subsidies gone. Shonky Robots that can't even hand out bottles of water without teleoperation just aint gonna cut it either. Perhaps he should have started with a robot dog to roam the yard?

With the insane pet culture now consumers would have lapped that up. You could have one as an augment to your real dog. Fill an internal bladder with fresh water and it could go and pee into the dog's water bowl. It could much up the real dog's shit for you too. Just put a standard hose fitting in it's arse and you could back flush it into the garden. Of course if modern people weren't next to useless they would have trained their dogs NOT to shit all over the yard.

Elon's days as the prophet of tech are numbered
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 17 Dec 2025, 10:39:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')s of November 2025,
Elon's days as the prophet of tech are numbered


The next time Elon shoots something else Australia can't make to Mars, maybe you can use your "on your knees" skills and convince him to send along some vegemite?

The sum of Australian accomplsihment is a joke compared to his big toe.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 20 Dec 2025, 00:30:49

Progression Of The EV Revolution (2017–2030)
8 years ago
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ost of you reading this are in agreement: electric vehicles will upend the conventional vehicle industry within the next 10–20 years. The pollution industry in the world of transport will be destroyed. Gasmobiles stinking up cities, garages, lungs, hearts, and minds will be retiring to scrapyards and history books. But the endgame is sort of boring — yes, awesome, but boring since it is the end of it all.

Yes, the number of gas stations will start decreasing, but … When? What will happen right before? What will happen right after?
Yes, EV drivers will have different environments for their long-distance charging needs, but how will those places evolve from what they are now to what they’ll be in 2030?
Yes, some giant automakers will shrink — maybe even collapse...
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/09/24/po ... evolution/

O kub... kubby, where are you...

11 September 2017
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')olkswagen, the world's biggest carmaker, will offer an electric version of all its 300 models by 2030, becoming the latest manufacturer to move away from petrol and diesel.

VW will double investment in zero-emission vehicles to 20bn euros (£18bn) as it seeks to put the diesel emissions scandal behind it. The German firm plans to offer 80 new electric cars across the group by 2025. It comes as Mercedes-Benz also promised electric versions of all its cars. Mercedes chief Dieter Zetsche said the entire range would have electric or hybrid versions by 2022.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41231766

Ahhh, those were the days, the heady days leading up to PeakEV, after which it flamed out globally at some level below 5%. Could it happen again? Could it happen to... Home Robotz? Well since there aren't actually any robotz in homes we can dismiss that as a stillborn bubble, but the A.A. bubble is another matter altogether.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 20 Dec 2025, 12:09:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Ahhh, those were the days, the heady days leading up to PeakEV, after which it flamed out globally at some level below 5%. Could it happen again?


Who cares. You certainly don't. I am happy they built all of my EVs because they are efficient, and when run only as EVs, or can only run as an EV, they beat the crap out of operating costs compared to ICE machines.

So no one has an objection in the uninformed want to pay like 5X more for their maintenance and per/mile costs than EV folks. I have no beef with their ignorance involved in this decision. Same as I have no beef with peak oilers knowing nothing about the geosciences, and running around scaring themselves with ignorance all these years.

Enjoy burning cubic dollars putting liquid fuels in your manly trucks and whatnot. Good for you deciding how you want to waste money. I choose not to is all.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AgentR11 » Thu 01 Jan 2026, 13:24:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', 'I') don't get them any different than the F150 Lightning. Some people just like monster stuff I guess. The kind of nonsense Lucky falls for, "look at my big car/truck/motorcycle which makes up for my lack of brain power and size of my manhood" type response. I think guys do it a bunch, and neoNazis even more than most.


To be fair, its nigh impossible to get a SMALL truck these days. Not sure what the deal is, but I'd take a small Ranger from decades past if I could get one with modern guts. Been looking at trucks to do truck tasks with, and maybe swapping the current gasoline commuter to a Tesla EV. I like that auto-drive thing more than I like admitting it.

Problem is they've made all the consumer trucks into giant cadillacs with itty bitty beds.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 01 Jan 2026, 18:13:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', 'I') don't get them any different than the F150 Lightning. Some people just like monster stuff I guess. The kind of nonsense Lucky falls for, "look at my big car/truck/motorcycle which makes up for my lack of brain power and size of my manhood" type response. I think guys do it a bunch, and neoNazis even more than most.


To be fair, its nigh impossible to get a SMALL truck these days.


YES! And THAT pisses me off! I drove my 2 wheel drive 2000 Ranger with ZERO options to the Arctic to splash around in a new ocean like 20 years ago. This truck. Atigun Pass, on the longest day of the year. Th picture was taken at 2AM on the south side of the pass, headed north for the next morning.

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And then folks got to splashing in the Arctic Ocean!

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The truck was small, got some decent mileage, I threw a topper on it when I wasn't hauling or towing motorcycles to racetracks. Nowadays the smallest pickup trucks are like double the size of that old Ranger. Don't even know if you can get manuals anymore. Solid rear axles on a spring pack.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
')Not sure what the deal is, but I'd take a small Ranger from decades past if I could get one with modern guts.

I bought mine new for like $10G's, no A/C, manual, to heck with modern guts I'll take straight up simple and easy to fix and maintain.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
') Been looking at trucks to do truck tasks with, and maybe swapping the current gasoline commuter to a Tesla EV. I like that auto-drive thing more than I like admitting it.

Problem is they've made all the consumer trucks into giant cadillacs with itty bitty beds.


The good ol' days of small inexpensive work trucks. I would be happy if someone just built some of those again.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 02 Jan 2026, 03:36:24

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Down that wriggly line just beside 13.5%, that's where the Battcar went, in a pretty normal amount of time too for failed innovations. NEVs, or New Energy Vehicles, as the world now refers to Battcar+Gasoline hybrid cars is around 10% of the cars on the road in China. And China was the bright spot for this nonsense. Their sales have turned South too. Yes blame it on Trump, blame it on sanctions, or whatever other convenient fantasy you want to cling too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzvTt2xq8os

Now the average TV thinker would ask themselves, '"Why go to all this trouble and expense trying to convert the world's fleets of cars (and trucks) to rechargeable battery ones if they knew it might fail?" And believe me, they had some smart cookies working for them, and many knew it WOULD fail. So why? Well you have to look at who ultimately foots the bill. It wasn't the manufacturers, not the men leading the companies. And it wasn't the Government, not the Joe Bidens. It was YOU, the taxpayer, the small investor in GM and Tesla who foot the bill for all this nonsense, and YOU don't count when it comes to the profits of the Big Boys. In fact, YOU are the profits of the Big Boys. You are human capital, to be expended, consumed.

Anyone seen what's going on with Saudi Arabia's "The Wall"? Hahaha. Yes, another dream, that has achieved its intended purpose and now lies abandoned in the desert. Figure that one out on your own drone.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Now the average TV thinker would ask themselves, '"Why go to all this trouble and expense trying to convert the world's fleets of cars (and trucks) to rechargeable battery ones if they knew it might fail?"


I have no doubt that for once, you might know something of which you speak. Having outlined both the name of your condition, and what they ask themselves if they lack even an iota of being able to answer said question.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 03 Jan 2026, 03:28:15

Rivian might make overpriced garbage trucks but their share price is back over $20.

Does this mean millions of Americans are rushing out to buy them now? Not quite...

Giant U.S. Pension Sold Nvidia, Tesla, and Apple Stock. It Bought Rivian.
May 4, 2025
Barron's
May 4, 2025 — The pension bought 110,970 Rivian shares in the first quarter. It hadn't owned any of the EV maker's stock at the end of 2024.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/nvidia ... n-8d3b022e
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ajor U.S. and international pension funds have invested in Rivian Automotive (RIVN) stock, a practice that highlights an appetite for growth in the electric vehicle (EV) market. Notable investors include large public pension systems in the United States.

appetite for growth in the electric vehicle market? It's been collapsing for a year and more, what growth?

This is what I was explaining over on the Gold thread. There will be a payoff for the pension fund managers of course, how that's orchestrated is anyone's guess. Payments into Cayman island trusts perhaps? Or more than likely inside info on what to buy and sell and when. This is a fixed game.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ivian's CEO, RJ Scaringe, received a significant new performance-based compensation package in November 2025, potentially worth up to $4.6 billion over the next decade, designed to retain him and incentivize growth by tying rewards to ambitious share price and profitability targets, similar to Elon Musk's pay deal at Tesla, replacing an earlier package that became difficult to achieve. The new plan includes a doubled base salary to $2 million and options for 36.5 million shares

It's the selling of these shares, and those of other corporate insiders that gooses the share price. The pension funds conveniently buy them up :lol:

That's your future retirement, so get out there and buy the Rivian *Experience* for $100,000.

Bezos, through Amazon, invested in Rivian early on and Amazon now owns about 16% of the company. Is it any wonder pension money is being poured into it?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ivian CEO RJ Scaringe has made numerous insider stock sales throughout 2025, primarily as part of pre-arranged Rule 10b5-1 trading plans. These sales do not necessarily indicate a lack of confidence in the company's future but are scheduled transactions designed to avoid accusations of insider trading.

It's all documented of course. A legal form of skimming profits even as the company loses money on every car it sells. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/RIVN/in ... nsactions/

This is how the rich get richer. Rivian is just a cash cow. In 2025 it sold 42,000 cars. Less than in 2024, but because they lose money on every car sold their bottom line is actually better. Let the fanboi tell you all about it, he spins this as being "Good" as only a technocornucopian dickweed could.
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