[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'F')rom above article quoted...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') A hybrid that gets 55 mpg is no cleaner than a conventional car achieving the same mileage.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Well on the face of it, all points conceded, but the fact that carmakers still produce Gas Guzzlers is really an American thing isn't it. Americans seem to think a huge truck or a V8 Mustang is their birthright.

[theluckycountry]

Experts Predicted An EV Sales Collapse. It's Already Started
This is "Another" collapse, added to the earlier collapses that saw sales go from increasing to decreasing a year and more ago.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')xperts said electric car sales would fall off a cliff in October. Here's what happened.
Jim Farley was right. Last month, Ford's CEO predicted that market share of electric cars would be cut in half once the federal tax credit for clean vehicles met its untimely demise on September 30. And in the first month of the post-tax-credit future for EVs, that's exactly what happened. Both J.D. Power and S&P Global Mobility estimate that October's EV market share plummeted to around 5% in the U.S., from a record high of over 12% in September.

The battery-powered share of sales also dropped significantly on a year-over-year basis, from over 8% in October 2024. The last time EVs made up 5% of U.S. vehicle sales was in early 2022. According to S&P Global Mobility, some 64,000 new electric vehicles were sold in October. That's a epic drop from September, when Americans bought or leased nearly 150,000 EVs as they scrambled to cash in on the expiring $7,500 incentive.

Plug-in hybrids got hit hard too, with their market share dropping from 2.2% in September to just 1% in October, per J.D. Power. “The automotive industry is experiencing a significant recalibration in the electric vehicle segment in the first month following the expiration of the federal tax credits," said Tyson Jominy, J.D. Power's senior vice president of data and analytics.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Thank Fuck we don't have that Disease down here in Australia!

[theluckycountry]

Battcars, The government solution for too many idiots on the road.

More Leaf owners with battery problems say Nissan has abandoned them
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') story CBC published last week about a Juno-winning musician's "bricked" Nissan Leaf all-electric vehicle has generated a huge response. People from across Canada and beyond shared similar stories about the breakdown of the popular EV model, and Nissan's inability or unwillingness to repair it. That has prompted some to consider legal action.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')More Leaf owners with battery problems say Nissan has abandoned them

[theluckycountry]

The Leaf was actually the pick of the litter, a girl's car to be sure, but Japanese tech.
I remember when I looked at Battcars 7 odd years ago. I had an open mind, I had 10kVA of solar and assumed I could make it work. But unlike many I did my research and discovered that they were a scam. Even being retired, with all day to charge, they simply didn't pan out. Why? Range of course, the biggest downside of the whole Battcar deal. I wasn't prepared to snip off my balls like some here have.

Australia is too big and too beautiful to limit yourself to one little geographical area.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he Leaf was actually the pick of the litter, a girl's car to be sure, but Japanese tech.

[theluckycountry]

The rechargeable battery powered car, or ZEV, will always have a place, among the city retards. But the Halfbreed which constitutes the major "EV" sales now is coming under attack from the environmentalists.

"PHEVs are widely considered the ideal stepping stone." the article claims.
Now that's a tired old meme isn't it. You'd think that with the plethora of Battcars on the market you wouldn't need "stepping stones". The trouble is when you build an edifice, Lie upon Lie, it's not easy to get all the Lies to fit together.

Eco campaigners turn on GREEN cars calling the electrified vehicles 'one of the biggest cons in history'
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Environmental campaigners have warned motorists not to buy a certain type of 'green' car over concerns they produce more emissions than drivers are being led to believe. Brussels-based think tank Transport & Environment said these electrified cars are not only more polluting than manufacturers claim, they're also a lot pricier to run than a fully-fledged EV.

Dubbing them a 'smoke screen', the group said plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEV) are a 'growing emissions scandal' and 'the biggest con in automotive history' - a bold statement given the recent car finance impropriety and this week's High Court 'dieselgate' trial with 1.6million UK drivers taking legal action against car makers over accusations of cheating diesel emissions tests.

The report comes in the wake of September plug-in hybrid registrations growing by 56 per cent year-on-year. PHEVs are widely considered the ideal stepping stone between a traditional combustion engine car and EVs. This is because they have a petrol engine that's supplemented by electric motors, which are powered by a small onboard battery. They're most efficient when fully charged using a public device or domestic wallbox. They too offer lower benefit in kind taxation due to their low 'official' CO2 emissions, making them incredibly appealing to company car drivers.

But T&E says real-world measurements show they emit five times more carbon dioxide than claimed.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he rechargeable battery powered car, or ZEV, will always have a place, among the city retards.

[theluckycountry]

Now the robots are out of the game it will be over rover for Tesla motors. It will collapse with the AI darlings and everything else.

Funny thing about robots, the Chinese are mastering them. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fGhSLyVX ... ture=share

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'N')ow the robots are out of the game it will be over rover for Tesla motors.

[careinke]

Link to TESLA's Share Holder Meeting today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGPlvmMjPtE

PEACE and Prosper

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'L')ink to TESLA's Share Holder Meeting today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGPlvmMjPtE

PEACE and Prosper

[theluckycountry]

China ev sales just collapsed, that's the last shoe, you all got it wrong but one aussie nailed it

[theluckycountry]

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... et/684887/
China’s EV Market Is Imploding

Beijing’s grand ambitions threaten to take down the global car industry.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n China, you can buy a heavily discounted “used” electric car that has never, in fact, been used. Chinese automakers, desperate to meet their sales targets in a bitterly competitive market, sell cars to dealerships, which register them as “sold,” even though no actual customer has bought them. Dealers, stuck with officially sold cars, then offload them as “used,” often at low prices. The practice has become so prevalent that the Chinese Communist Party is trying to stop it. Its main newspaper, The People’s Daily, complained earlier this year that this sales-inflating tactic “disrupts normal market order,” and criticized companies for their “data worship.”

This sign of serious problems in China’s electric-vehicle industry may come as a surprise to many Americans.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'C')hina ev sales just collapsed, that's the last shoe, you all got it wrong but one aussie nailed it

[theluckycountry]

Can you imagine it, hundreds of millions of people in the civilized western world, all sucked into a massive swindle, believing every single Lie told just because a South African immigrant and a dementia ridden President, who couldn't even sign his own name, were cheer leading it along?

You want the truth, ask the Aussies. We'll save you a fortune and you won't have a driveway full of cars you can't leave the city limits in. "Oh I charge at home with Solar" Yes but only when the suns shining Hahaha.

AI will fix it, AI will fix everything, and robots, and robots. Hahaha

[theluckycountry]

Now where are all those EV long haul trucks, and grain harvesters, and D-10s Hahaha.
Sucked in Sucked in. Kub was in the industry wasn't he. Probably a greeter at Walmart now...

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'C')an you imagine it, hundreds of millions of people in the civilized western world, all sucked into a massive swindle.....