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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby Armageddon » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 10:08:54

Massive crypto wipeout tonight — per Coinglass data, over $19 billion in leveraged bets have been liquidated, impacting more than 1.6 million traders. Roughly $7 billion of those positions were flushed out in just one hour of trading on Friday.
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 12:58:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'M')assive crypto wipeout tonight


Yes, some nasty action! A whale must have tipped his hand and sold too much for that huge downward spike. Fucks me who the buyers are though, who tries to catch a falling knife?
Perhaps the likes of Michael Saylor. It's not like he uses his own money, it's all leverage bets with his company. He's sold billions of stock in Strategy and the cash is away and safe, in Gold probably :lol:

Do as I say don't do as I do. Like Elon the prophet of all things SciFi. He has a Gasoline powered car collection that makes me drool.

A fun post on reddshit
Actually sold all my bitcoin a couple days ago when it was at 122k
Then it dipped yesterday and bought back in. Made a little bit of profit from it. Probably won’t sell again until the end of the year. I got lucky.

The typical response is
1. You're nuts
2. Accumulate and hold and it won't take 20 years.

Won't take 20 years for what, losing all your money? Morons!
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 13:16:36

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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 13:41:40

How lame is the financial thinking...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')rypto market traders were hit by record liquidations just days after Bitcoin touched an all-time high, after President Trump triggered a wave of cross-market volatility saying he would impose an additional tariff on China and export controls on software.

Bitcoin plunged to $105,000 - its lowest since June - following Trump's aft-hours tweet yesterday..

Like As If. If he'd declared war on China, perhaps, but just one more tariff? Anyway the coinheads used to say they lapped up this news because "Bitcoin thrives in turbulent times"
All so much delusion. Meanwhile, in the real world.



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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby Armageddon » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 15:12:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'G')reat video on this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/commen ... ast_night/



I heard the stop-losses weren’t working on the big exchanges. Everything happened in under 10 mins
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 23:29:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I') heard the stop-losses weren’t working on the big exchanges. Everything happened in under 10 mins

It's rigged, just like the private pensions. You want to change your allocation from high risk to low risk cash and bonds and it can take up to 2 weeks. By then your portfolio is in the trash can. I saw it happen with friends back in the GFC. One was retired, a month later he was back at work lol.

I shouldn't laugh, but I have zero sympathy for those that trust the system to protect them. Useless Eaters.
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 11 Oct 2025, 23:39:17

I wish Inke would post something, I could use a laugh :o He talks about "Not yet" and "by the end of the year" as though there is some kind of analysis going on :lol: But Inke is clueless because aside from it's link to the Nasduck, which is linked to the DOW, there is nothing at all going on aside from Whales pumping and dumping. The coinheads were all looking forward to October because 'Rocktober' is the month for big gains. Another delusion broken.


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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby careinke » Sun 12 Oct 2025, 07:26:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') wish Inke would post something, I could use a laugh :o He talks about "Not yet" and "by the end of the year" as though there is some kind of analysis going on :lol: But Inke is clueless because aside from it's link to the Nasduck, which is linked to the DOW, there is nothing at all going on aside from Whales pumping and dumping. The coinheads were all looking forward to October because 'Rocktober' is the month for big gains. Another delusion broken.


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I'm here. Gloating about what might happen 2 months and three weeks before 1 Jan seems a little arrogant to me. But hey, I'm a free speech kind of guy, so feel free to blabber on.

10 October was interesting to watch, LOTS of stuff going on politically, and financially (Stocks, Bonds, Bitcoin, and Altcoins). Full disclosure, the only thing I bought was some TSLA just prior to Fridays close. It was pretty obvious lots of manipulation was going on.

BTC had the biggest one day candle ever, either up or down, when measured in Fiat Currencies. Some exchanges had a $20K one day candle (down). My CoinTracking BTC candle was only $15K down from a $122K high to a $107K for the low of the day. At the end of the Zulu Day, my total portfolio set me back a whole two weeks to SEP 27. I'm not to worried for me, but a LOT of folks were using margin and were completely wiped out. I learned my Margin Lessons back in 2017 when I lost a lot of my crypto bags.

Lots of commercial exchanges were overwhelmed, especially during high volume times. Stop Loss orders were not executed until the price was much lower than their orders. Expect a lot of class action lawsuits coming soon against the exchanges.

At one point ETH's gas cost was $1,500 per transaction! Plus trades were extremely slow. ETH is a dead man walking, not going to be a player even if it is the second largest market cap of all crypto. Think Blockbuster being replaced by Netflix. In the crypto world it's ETH being replaced by SOL.

Monday is a bank holiday and the US markets will be closed. I'm looking forward to Tuesday, hopefully TSLA will be down again and I will buy some more.

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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 12 Oct 2025, 09:50:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', ' ')ETH is a dead man walking, not going to be a player even if it is the second largest market cap of all crypto. Think Blockbuster being replaced by Netflix.

Like the second largest Battcar maker, Rivian, is a DMW. But it going won't make tesla anymore viable, as the Chinese have it wrapped up now for anyone who wants a segway. Same with BTC, it's not trading on fundamentals, just hope, and entrenched positions. If enough people pull the pin it will go down and stay down. CBDCs will fill the slot nicely. Out with crypto 2.0, in with crypto 2.1

We'll just have to wait and see how far it collapses this time around. All the hodlers know it's coming, and many are getting very nervous.
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby Doly » Mon 13 Oct 2025, 16:27:25

I'm trying to wrap my head around what bitcoin and crypto are really about. I know, it's rather late for this, but I always found it strange that peak oilers always have treated crypto as kinda self-evident. No, it's not, not for me.

I've written some stuff in my blog about it, I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments from people in this forum, either on the blog or replying on this thread.

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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby careinke » Mon 13 Oct 2025, 18:10:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')'m trying to wrap my head around what bitcoin and crypto are really about. I know, it's rather late for this, but I always found it strange that peak oilers always have treated crypto as kinda self-evident. No, it's not, not for me.

I've written some stuff in my blog about it, I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments from people in this forum, either on the blog or replying on this thread.

https://cluelessmagic.wordpress.com/202 ... crusaders/


Hi Doly, Great to see you again—I'll definitely check out your blog.

I may be the lone BTC advocate on this board, so you’ve got me as your go-to source. Knowing your analytical style, I’d recommend starting with The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous. The Kindle version is especially useful—it’s packed with notes and source links that make it easier to explore further. After reading it, you’ll have a solid grasp of both monetary theory and Bitcoin’s role within it. I found it genuinely eye-opening.

As for crypto beyond BTC—Altcoins span a massive range of use cases, from art and real estate to trading platforms and digital collectibles. But it’s a wild frontier: 30,000+ new tokens pop up daily, and many are speculative at best. My advice? Master Bitcoin first. Altcoins can be powerful tools, but they also carry serious risk.

Personally, I’ve allocated about 80% of my investments and savings to BTC, and I don’t plan to sell. (Standard disclaimer: this isn’t financial advice.)

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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 13 Oct 2025, 21:10:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')'m trying to wrap my head around what bitcoin and crypto are really about. I know, it's rather late for this...

how patently faux, how trite doly. That's not what you're about at all. Surely you can do better, why not get an AI to write your leadins for you.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ve written some stuff in my blog about it, I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments

So we get the true reason for your post, no thanks doly, you'll get no clicks from me. See you a few more months when you've pushed out another pile of excretement.


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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby careinke » Mon 13 Oct 2025, 21:41:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')'m trying to wrap my head around what bitcoin and crypto are really about. I know, it's rather late for this...

how patently faux, how trite doly. That's not what you're about at all. Surely you can do better, why not get an AI to write your leadins for you.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ve written some stuff in my blog about it, I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments

So we get the true reason for your post, no thanks doly, you'll get no clicks from me. See you a few more months when you've pushed out another pile of excretement.


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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 14 Oct 2025, 07:49:37

You're a sap Inke. Go back and read dopeys posts, they disconnected from this forum a year and more ago, they are just a blogger now that pops in to try and garner viewers. But by all means go down there and try and sell BC to the unwashed, we goldbugs don't need to upsell, the world's central banks are doing that for us 8)
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 14 Oct 2025, 15:33:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U').S. Government Adds To Bitcoin Reserve With Historic $15 Billion Seizure In Forced Labor Crypto Scam Case


Historic! $15 Billion? That will get spent on the military in a single day, especially with the government shutdown.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to the indictment, Prince Group’s scam operations trafficked hundreds of workers who were “confined in prison-like compounds and forced to carry out online scams on an industrial scale.” Prosecutors allege the network laundered illicit crypto proceeds using advanced “spraying” and “funneling” techniques to obscure the origins of stolen assets.

That's the real function of BTC folks, Crime and Misery.
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 16 Oct 2025, 05:51:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')Western fiat currencies are in real trouble,” warns billionaire investor Frank Giustra in a new interview with Daniela Cambone. He foresees an imminent monetary reset that could send gold prices soaring, calling it a “once-in-a-century dynamic.” Central banks, he says, are quietly driving this shift through unprecedented gold buying—an early signal of eroding trust in paper money.

But Bitcoin's falling and falling? It's anti-Fiat, anti-paper money too they told me? It's all in the BC white paper about how BC will go up and up as evil Fiat depreciates. Could it possibly be, the anonymous sato who invented it, and no doubt kept a million or two hidden for himself made up all that shit? I mean the whole structure is built on the ramblings of one egg headed data rat, what could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 16 Oct 2025, 18:38:31

Others have the same concern.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')f bitcoin is digital gold and the perfect store of value, why is it not performing as such?
In theory it makes sense that BTC is the perfect store of value, but why is it not in times when gold is rising, not rising too?
Some risks I identified which may be the cause:

-market is not liquid enough for big transactions (e.g. if I would sell BTC worth billions, the market would not have enough buyers and the price would dump)

-centralization of power in the USA: BTC is now controlled by BlackRock, Strategy and other US institutions. Why would a non US entity buy BTC when it is so tightly integrated in a foreign country.
Let me know what you think

Here we have a rational thought out post, citing known fact to try and explain why the *perfect asset* to hodl in bad times is a big fail
Now the expert hodlers chime in.
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')-I'm tired
--Of dumb people?
-I don't think the market is not liquid enough, but the centralization indeed is a real concern. In general, it is not as established as gold, so yeah, it is still a risk on asset. But that is the upside you have
-I think you need to STFU :evil:
-At its core I think the issue is that retail just don't care. A lot of people think the cycle is over or about to end, and we're headed for a long bear market, so why would retail FOMO in?

Also, most of the narratives like digital gold doesn't matter much yet. I think we're still mostly driven by adoption. If you want safety, why would you go with bitcoin and not gold? This will change, but right now gold is just the better option if you want safety, and bitcoin is the better choice if you are looking for a good investment long term, because the upside is so much bigger.

I have been surprised by bitcoins price action the last few years though. This cycle has been a lot less predictable, but maybe we'll get back to something that looks more like the previous years at some point, who knows, time will tell.
- "BTC is now controlled by BlackRock, Strategy and other US institutions."
No it's not. Don't mistake influence on the price with influence over the protocol.
And FYI, the USD is the asset the US controls & that every non US entity holds.


Some interesting comments, like "still driven by adoption." What the poster here implies is that only a small minority of people are coiners, but that one day, they will "wake up" and rush in and buy. Of course this is the big Hope, that one day someone will pay a million dollars for their coin and they can retire and buy lambo. It's the classic hope of all ponzi schemes actually.

"I don't think the market is not liquid enough" Not liquid enough? Who knows how they came to that conclusion but it's actually a nonsensical statement. crypto is actually one of the most liquid on the planet!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')itcoin’s mechanism is flawless, but its value expression depends on collective belief and participation. It’s like the Internet before mass adoption. The protocols worked perfectly in the 1990s, but its true value wasn’t visible until enough people used it to make it indispensable.

Well I wouldn't say flawless. The scams and untold lost coins testify to that, as does the ever increasing transaction times and cost in electricity as the ledger grows, but I get the point. But again, it's all pegged on mass adoption, which the public gave the internet, for obvious reasons. BTC though the public has walked away from. There is no day to day value in it for them and they are not by and large risk takers like the coiners. Especially not in the current economic times.
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 17 Oct 2025, 00:38:30

4 min. ago
I think I got scammed
1h ago
Why is everyone making a big deal?
I don’t understand. I check and I still had the same amount of bitcoin as I did a week ago????
2h ago
It’s been 500 days
Some of you may know the 500 day rule. That says, the top is somewhere after 500 days after the halving. It’s been 500 days. The top may be in.
4h ago
Will BTC drop below 100K?
BTC’s been showing weakness around the 108K level lately. Some say it’s just a healthy correction before the next leg up, others think the hype’s cooling off.
4h ago
JUST IN: $450,000,000 liquidated from the crypto market in the past 30 minutes!
-HOW TF ARE PEOPLE STILL LEVERAGED
-Gambling addiction?
-https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1o8n5j2/just_in_450000000_liquidated_from_the_crypto/

All the downer posts from the post above have already been deleted by the ShitcoinMods, these will be too in short order.
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 17 Oct 2025, 06:38:47

Trust! It's at the root of all investment. You have to trust what you're putting your money into. You have to see logical reasons why it will give you back your money, when you want it. It's as simple as that. Over on the r/coinhead sub people are bailing but no reason is given, but it's obvious. They are not bailing because it's gone down a little, they are getting out because they don't trust it anymore.

That never happened with the housing crash. Everyone knew houses would eventually come back, to some higher level. People were only driven out by being over leveraged. Certainly a big problem in BC circles. Even at the top! Look at Strategy, it's leveraged up the wazoo but Saylor never spoke of it in any interviews I ever heard him in. No interviewer discussed it, no one called him on it. An empire built on debt, and a single highly volatile speculative asset.

Well if the naysayer holders are right, winter has arrived, and regardless of Fiat money printing or a collapsing $US The savior of wealth is going down the toilet for 3 years. But you know the funny thing? No one has ever explained WHY it goes down the toilet for 3 years. I know why, it's as obvious as the nose on my face! But inside the bubble they haven't a clue.

BTC $104k
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Re: Bitcoin & crypto? Pt. 3

Postby mousepad » Sat 18 Oct 2025, 21:46:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')BTC $104k


That is crazy!! For something that has absolutely zero value at all, people are willing to pay $100k for?
Why are people so dumb?
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