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THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Wed 23 Jul 2025, 22:03:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Tesla's California sales down for seven straight quarters

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-22/
Quick irony update. Someone from a country that can't make cars whining about a SINGLE US state that makes them by the millions selling....fewer.

Talk about jealousy running rampant. Anyway...parrots can't think so obviously they miss the irony of their own post.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Wed 23 Jul 2025, 22:21:48

"I bought a Tesla and now it's resale value has plummeted?"

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An EVidiot.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 25 Jul 2025, 10:40:14

2075-

"Hey look Dad, a personal transporter!"
"Get back son, keep away from it"
"But it's full of metal Dad?"
"I know son, I know. But that's an old battery car and there as dangerous a hell"
"What do ya mean Dad?"
"Well they can blow up, at anytime, even just sitting there"
"Really?"
"Yes son. There once was a time when they'd only go off if the battery had power in it, but then they discovered that when all the chemicals inside degraded over time they formed an explosive like mix."
"Wow, How Dad?"
"I can't remember now son, it's been so long... There were a lot of things about those autos that were kept secret from people, and a lot of Lies were told. I was only your age then but my Dad told me how the revenuers tried to force everyone to buy one, and then it all fell apart. All I know is you treat em like a landmine. Lucky we saw it, lucky the drought killed back the grass."

"Oooo.. But what's it doin out here Dad?"
"Well when that era ended son no one wanted to scrap em because it was too expensive, the battery, it's not like the one we have at home, it's a sealed thing, and big, build all into the auto itself. The revenuers were charging the owners $10,000 to take em off the road, that was before the old currency collapsed. It wasn't a lot of money but the people were poor then like now so they just drove em out into the countryside till the battery went flat and pushed em off into the long grass."
"Wow Dad, you never told me any of this?"
"There's a lot a things I never told you son, and things I never will. It was a terrible time those days, back before the country was split and the Black men took the Southern half and went to war with the Mexicana. Anyway I'll tell the Sheriff we found this thing and then it'll be his problem, we gotta get home and we got a long ways to walk."
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 26 Jul 2025, 02:08:05

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 27 Jul 2025, 04:37:42

Fewer Than 400 EV Charging Ports Built Despite $7.5 Billion Biden Funding:
“That is pathetic. We’re now three years into this. That is a vast administrative failure,” he said. “Something is terribly wrong, and it needs to be fixed.” :lol:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/few ... g-watchdog
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sun 27 Jul 2025, 10:11:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Fewer Than 400 EV Charging Ports Built Despite $7.5 Billion Biden Funding:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/few ... g-watchdog

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 28 Jul 2025, 08:49:35

Beta Testers.

A beta tester, an individual who tests a product, software or hardware, in a real-world environment during its final stages of development. Their primary role is to provide feedback, identify bugs or issues, and assess the product's viability and performance in real-world scenarios.

That's the Battcar owner in a nutshell. And the beta is the version without a proper charging network, without the promised savings, etc etc. They paid a HUGE premium up front believing they would save a fortune on fuel but electricity you pay for out of your wall socket is still fuel. So they bent themselves into pretzels, installed expensive solar and expensive chargers, and then when they realized that the car was parked up overnight when the sun didn't shine they paid for an expensive house battery. All the while fussing over charge levels and daily plugin regimes.

Unlike other cars, they can't just park in the street. They can't travel somewhere unless there is a charge point on hand. In a sense they are trapped in the city, trapped in their own garage. This is a good thing since I don't live in the city and don't particularly want those sort of people out my way. They are not normal people, they are dreamers, they are fools, they are delusional and they never shut up about their Battcars. Vegan's on the prowl, always trying to convince people their way of life is the best. You can't talk to a vegan about anything to do with meat. BBQ's are off the topic list, as are nearly all restaurants you might favor. Even a local coffee shop breakfast becomes an opening for them to begin discussing their garbage. "Have some fried wedges" "What type of oil do they use? Do they cook meat products in it too?" You don't want vegans as friends or acquaintances believe me, they are simply too intense, to troublesome.

EVidiots are the same. Try planning a picnic out country with one :P Or dare to discuss a new car you have your eye on. The latter is a perfect opening for them to start preaching the benefits of the Battcar and how you too can be monk living in your own city and rarely ever go beyond it. Just pay the extra $20,000, and another $10,000 for a powerwall and you're good to go! But what if we get a prolonged blackout, like after a cyclone? What if want to leave the city and weather it out far away? They have no handy answer for this and while everyone else is simply getting into their cars and driving when and where they choose, they are scrambling with apps to see what towns where have chargers and do they have the right credit app to access them, and are they on-grid even?

Beta Testers, and the results are in :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')lectric cars are generally waterproof but have limits. Don't drive through deep water or flooded areas. If your EV gets wet, turn it off, call for help, and get it checked by a mechanic.


Anyone with any experience knows you can safely drive through standing water if you maintain a moderate speed that creates a bow wave before you. If the water is deeper than you thought and the car starts to "float" simply open a door and let the water in. As long as it doesn't get higher than the air intake, unlikely with a bow wave pushing it away, you're good to travel through. Of course commons sense is required and that is something the average driver no longer possesses, so we see these idiots floating away, or drowned after trying to navigate flowing water. So the government's blanket advice is "if it's flooded, don't drive through." We get moderate floods out here all the time and the locals easily drive through flooded roads, but we mostly have cars with good clearances, not like a lot of the bitch boxes and sports cars you see getting around the cities. I've never seen a car stalled passing one of these low sections. Battcars? Not on your life!
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Mon 28 Jul 2025, 19:43:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'B')eta Testers.

A beta tester, an individual who tests a product, software or hardware, in a real-world environment during its final stages of development. Their primary role is to provide feedback, identify bugs or issues, and assess the product's viability and performance in real-world scenarios.

That's the Battcar owner in a nutshell.


So, those of us who drive them provide the following feedback....everything works as claimed, $/mile costs are microscopic, my first service was done on my EV at 6000 miles, it was a tire rotation, and it was free at the dealership. As was the tank of fuel they provided before giving the car back to the wife.

No battery degradation yet, the temperature of the air cooled battery pack hasn't gone above 60% of the total range, and that was in 100F heat while running on the interstate for 40 miles.

Haven't even had to put windshield wiper fluid in it yet.

Operating in EXACTLY the same manner as the last one. No maintenance, no problems, no trouble, pennies per mile fuel costs.

For the manufacturers who sell such things I can only say......

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 28 Jul 2025, 20:04:03

Beta testers :lol:

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Mon 28 Jul 2025, 22:40:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'B')eta testers :lol:


Beta testers getting fuel from the wind!!! Darn right folks will go for free fuel! Paying for liquid fuels....suckers.....

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 29 Jul 2025, 00:06:32

They were never gonna make it, but for a while the EVidiots had hope

Early adopters = Beta Testers.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 04 Aug 2025, 18:33:39

A BYD plugin half-breed, the perfect car for retired middle class Australians? Well perhaps if they have home solar and the car can sit at home in daylight hours on charge. But then the issues of longevity and usefulness after the battery has died come into it. It's a complex issue and no doubt bragging rights at the BBQ play as important factor as anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJPzG29P0-A&t=27s

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Lemmings don't actually suicide enmass jumping off cliffs, that's a myth, a Lie. Like when the US president threatens India with higher tariffs for buying Russian oil, because they "don't care" about the mass slaughter in the ukraine. Yet the US is happy to see mass slaughter in other regions when it suits them economically. In the video you can almost hear the BYD salesman choke as he mentions the cars range on... one tank. One of the reported behaviors of Lemmings that is not a Lie is the fact that they migrate in massive hoards. Like many other mammals, like humans for example.

All mammals outside of humans do it as an instinctive response to things like changes in climate or the arrival of predators. Humans on the other hand often do it as a result of social perceptions, changes in marketing basically. Consider all the attractive young women today, are they attractive because they are naturally beautiful, or because they are covered in a mass of tattoos and have their lips full of Botox?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Wed 13 Aug 2025, 06:04:16

Electric car road-user charge nearing Australian rollout
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ustralia seems poised to introduce a nation-wide road-user tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to help offset a decrease in fuel excise revenue. According to The Australian, Federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers has met with decision makers in the transport and infrastructure industries to propose the road-user tax plan, and lay a roadmap for its implementation.

The shift will mean all electric cars will need to pay a tax based on distance travelled, as EV adoption increases. Currently, the government adds a 51.6-cent fuel excise at the bowser, with the sum aimed at maintaining and improving roads.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/electric- ... n-rollout/

Sounds fair, the roads have to be paid for. The Government will need access to the EV data stream to calculate this naturally, and that will mean they are tracking you every turn you take. But as long as you're not doing anything illegal you have nothing to worry about. Certainly they will be watching you're speed, and through the camera arrays on these cars will know if you cross a double line. Just keep on your toes and you'll have no worries. Remember, you're part of the future, and with that comes responsibility.


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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Wed 13 Aug 2025, 06:10:25

Some electric cars fall short of claimed range by up to 23%, Australian motoring group finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... roup-finds

Please Explain kub?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 15 Aug 2025, 00:44:32

Cyber truck Lies catch up with Tesla.

Before release, 1,000,000 orders were placed by an exuberant public. But since deliveries began in November 2023, only 52,000 have been delivered. Range was one of the biggest killers. It was promised to have up to 500 miles, but delivered only 300. There were many other Lies too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6FaSBBYv-Q

When did overall Tesla sales peak? February 2023. Two and a half years ago! Peaktesla actually occurred before PeakEV. Is it any wonder Elon walked away and got involved in Twitter (X). He was the insider's insider, he knew long before the dull cow herd caught on.


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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Fri 15 Aug 2025, 15:08:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')hey were never gonna make it, but for a while the EVidiots had hope

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 16 Aug 2025, 09:18:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina: ...Alongside that remarkable growth, however, has been frustration: The survey from McKinsey China pegged battery EV buyers’ “regret rate” as surging from 3% in 2022 to 22% last year, which its report blamed largely on limited charging infrastructure. Chinese consumers’ “acceptance rate” of new energy vehicles in general also dropped from 68% in 2022 to 62% in 2023, meaning fewer people were looking to buy these vehicles.


And that folks, was the bright spot in the world :lol:

I always found it amusing that the Battcar fanboi switched their focus to China after things collapsed in the USofA and Europe. Like it really mattered what happened over in that communist country. But they needed to keep the dream alive somehow, or else they would have to recant years of shitposting on forums like this. When I look at the steadfast belief these EVidiots have I can only draw one conclusion, that the propaganda they were fed by the bubble makers for half a decade has colonized their brains and cannot be supplanted by anything less than an equal volume of anti-propaganda. Of course that never comes, the bubble ruins are swept under the carpet and the pigmen move on to hype the next bubble. in this instance, AI.

The dotcom bubble was the first one I noticed. After that it was easy to pick them out. The housing bubble, along with the Ethanol bubble, then the stock market bubble of the late 2000's with it CDOs and CDOs squared. I remember a client who had a program of stock picking based on her horoscope, some local Guru was selling the concept. Another was off to $2000 seminars learning how to trade derivatives. Another was part of a "club" where thousands had re-mortgaged their homes and given the money to some huckster who invested it through the Mcquarie bank. All legal and legit, all highly leveraged. When the collapse came all these people were gutted like fish on the river bank. Some lost their homes of course, they were taking the gains from the market to make the repayments of their remortgaging loans, pensioner types.

The Shale oil bubble followed and then the EV bubble, by then it was so obvious it only took a couple of days of research to verify they were scams. The easy way to tell these bubbles is to see what's being Hyped in all the media, over and over and over. You basically don't have to do any research, just realize that the truly good investments are always under the radar, like the mining boom in the 00s, the Gold boom concurrent with it. The rare earth boom and the boom in farm prices. And all these things have something in common. They are based on REAL world resources, just the sort of stuff that will become increasingly scarce and valuable as we go down the RH side of the Hubbert curve.

The Battcar is hardly ever in the news now is it? No one wants to talk about it, buyer remorse is everywhere. Even the total fanbois feel it but their egos prevent them from admitting it, even to themselves. Everyone of a reasonable age should have figured out the emotional cycle attached to buying a new car by now. For the first week you can't keep your eves off it, for the first month you are washing it every week or less. Then by about the three month mark it's just a car, just like the last one, A to B. Sure the new one is a lot nicer, but unless it's performance and ease of use is as good as the last you'll likely feel regret. EVidiots often brag about never having to go to a service station again. So what was so difficult about that? It's actually a hell of a lot easier than going to the supermarket, and they do that every week. They are just kidding themselves, they have changed a weekly fill up for a daily fill up that takes multiple hours rather than 5 minutes. And at least at the servo you can grab a chocolate bar. At least at the servo you know the price, at home or at a street charger it could be anything? And at home, quite expensive too if you have to do it at night or on a cloudy day.

Idiots, fools that rushed in where Angles feared to tread, and now the truth is out! So they drive onward, day after day, waiting for the inevitable battery degradation which will cripple their range and make their car next to worthless. I couldn't think of anything more demoralizing myself? No wonder so many people Leased them, Ripping themselves off financially in the short term so they don't have to face the ripoff in the years to come. Last week I changed the oil in my 2008 V6, it cost me $70 and a half hours labor. I'll change the transmission fluid in a couple of months, that needs doing every 150,000 odd km, aside from that it's a trouble free Japanese car, 17 years old with 160,000 on the clock. Good for another 10 years and more probably.

I fill it up my car and drive, park it and forget it. that's what you want, simple transport so you can get on with your life. Owning a Battcar is akin to owning a Horse, you know it needs daily attention, you know as it gets older it will be restricted to shorter and shorter journeys.

The average lifespan of a domesticated horse is 25–30 years.
But the average working life?
3~4 years for a stagecoach horse or Fire horse.
8~10 years for a horse you just used for single transport. Just like the rechargeable battery car hey.
Oh, and don't forget! Use the heater or air cooler and your Battcar range plummets :P Same if you are a leadfoot and like to feel the power. Battery electric cars have amazing power and acceleration but you won't be exploiting it up through the mountain corners, not if you want to get back home. Slow and steady fanboi, just keep your eye on that range bar...
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sun 17 Aug 2025, 14:24:42

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 17 Aug 2025, 21:34:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')merican Trucks surveyed 501 American EV owners to understand how they felt about owning an electric car. It found that one in 10 people wish they hadn’t made their purchase and that 8% of owners want to switch back to a gas-powered car.

Based on search volume, the survey found that EV owners in Miami and Orlando, Florida, and Irvine, California, were most likely to regret having an EV. The top reasons for regretting an EV purchase were the lack of charging infrastructure, battery degradation, long charging times, and limited driving range, according to American Trucks. But the most interesting aspect of the survey was the breakdown of buyer regret based on the vehicle manufacturer.
https://qz.com/ev-owners-regret-buying- ... 1851672819

Sucks to be a Beta tester.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 17 Aug 2025, 21:36:33

Oh Dear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyzMYNEcts

Half a million views, check out the comments

And this record of disaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9sRGbq1SY4
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