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Idiocracy now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Wed 26 Feb 2025, 06:20:22

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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Wed 26 Feb 2025, 16:49:28

There is a proposal of $250 bill with Trump on it - as the most valuable president.
https://dailypost.ng/2025/02/26/us-lawm ... umps-face/
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2 ... al-2036325
I am getting concerned about mental health of American president.
Developing events are resembling stories with inept emperor and crafty yes-men glorifying how great and intelligent he is - to secure favors and personal profits.
He has also said today that "European Union was formed to screw America".
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump ... s-13317606
United States are becoming to be a sad farce - and I don't say it maliciously.
I just observe with much disbelief what is actually going on.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby careinke » Wed 26 Feb 2025, 19:44:23

At least we can interact with this President, unlike whoever was running the last term of the "Censorship, Steal, and Lie Executive."

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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 27 Feb 2025, 16:10:53

Trump, is the one. The prophecy must be fulfilled

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Quotes from the movie:

On American politics- "Choice is an illusion created between those with power and those without"
Of Trump, Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg- "What do all men with power want? More power"
Of the average voter- "I don't like the idea that I’m not in control of my life"
Where most people stumble- "Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more"

Of course by the 3rd movie in the franchise we discover that the "One" was not meant to solve anything. He was just part of another system of control. To bring the whole matrix rebellion to a head and precipitate the destruction of Zion. Of course later there came the 4th in the franchise, a WOKE matrix where Neo and Trinity are trapped in a delusion but where Trinity is now "The One"

It's an endless jerk circle and the pods stay full of comatose consumers providing the energy to run the big machine. Very apt that part, since it's all about Energy isn't it. The Energy of oil for us, but for the rest of recorded history, the Energy of Slaves basically. What was the difference between a Negro slave on a plantation and a dirt poor subsistence farmer in the wastelands of America. Very little aside from the illusion that one was free.

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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 28 Feb 2025, 13:28:08

I AM enjoying retirement, very much thank you. At 74 I am on my 9th year.

Canceled my Netflix subscription. I hust watch the news instead.

A bit more seriously I think by June there will be a substantial back lash and the tide will change as the Congress Critters figure out that Trump association is hurtful to re-election chances.

Ot will take that long for those in the middle not paying attention to get adequately riled.

My best guess.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 01 Mar 2025, 03:33:58

@Newfie,
I am not sure.
You are perhaps used to old ways of doing American politics.
IMO these are gone.
Trump will assemble crowds of yes-men and won't relent.
Critters you mention will be fished out and dealt with in most brutal way if necessary.
And if Trump is openly challenged you may see anything, including deployment of US Army against rebels/rebel states.
Idiocracy is a fun to watch from far away but it can also be very dangerous.

Western world as we know it have ceased to exist, blown up by United States.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby careinke » Sat 01 Mar 2025, 05:07:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') AM enjoying retirement, very much thank you. At 74 I am on my 9th year.

Canceled my Netflix subscription. I hust watch the news instead.

A bit more seriously I think by June there will be a substantial back lash and the tide will change as the Congress Critters figure out that Trump association is hurtful to re-election chances.

Ot will take that long for those in the middle not paying attention to get adequately riled.
My best guess.


I'm now 71 and have been retired for 21 years (Except for two Decadal U.S. Census's which I did the first time out of curiosity, and the second because it was fun). I think your hope/predictions will not pan out. I'll put mine down below and we can check them on July 4th and again during the Mid Terms.

I think the congress will toe the line through the midterms primarily out of self-preservation. They know they will get no financial support and be actively opposed by their own party if they don't toe the line like the Dims traditionally do. Heck half the Cabinet members were Censured Democrats before switching to the right side. So was Trump.

With the exception of Sanctuary Cities, the pendulum has swung to the right. It's a long pendulum and will continue for a few decades. The system is broken and needs to be replaced.

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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 01 Mar 2025, 06:41:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '[')b]Western world as we know it have ceased to exist, blown up by United States.


It's been clear for sometime that the US empire wouldn't last as long as the British empire did, and for sometime now there has been talk of transition to a uni-polar world, with the US and China, probably Russia all jointly taking a slice of the pie. It would be the first time in history such a thing was accomplished but it's the first time in history that more than one nation had a military superiority, I'm speaking of the nuclear arsenals and their delivery platforms of course.

If such a balance was to be achieved then what's happening now is probably the most effective course of action, Trump siding with Russia and it's allies over this war. As for the Euro NATO nations, I don't think they will play a part in any of it. Best just to cut them adrift and let them find allies where they can. Clearly that is the stance they have taken in deriding Trump over the Zelinskeee interview. Insipid bunch of croissant munchers.

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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 01 Mar 2025, 18:19:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '[')b]Western world as we know it have ceased to exist, blown up by United States.


It's been clear for sometime that the US empire wouldn't last as long as the British empire did, and for sometime now there has been talk of transition to a uni-polar world, with the US and China, probably Russia all jointly taking a slice of the pie. It would be the first time in history such a thing was accomplished but it's the first time in history that more than one nation had a military superiority, I'm speaking of the nuclear arsenals and their delivery platforms of course.

American Empire may exist much longer than many of us expect.
They may crush and take over Canada after bloody military campaign, convert Mexicans into slave labor, invade Greenland, launch wars on Panama, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti and annex Gaza Strip. Then they may claim entire Mars as American property and even launch property development projects on the bottom of Gulf of America.
We have seen nothing yet.
Idiocracies are fertile lands of opportunity and unbound imagination.
Anything is possible there and even laws of physics can be openly contested.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby Newfie » Sat 01 Mar 2025, 20:52:37

Carinke,

I see it a bit different.

I agree with your assessment about the pendulum swinging right. And the Dam Dems are blind and dead to it. OTOH what we have, MAGA, is not really either traditional R or Conservative. It is the doppelgänger of the Loonie Left. And I don’t think that is what people want either.

I see this past election as “The Great Repudiation” where significant portions of the population were fed up with BOTH traditional parties, and Trump just happened to fall into this.

Most people, IMHO, voted for thr guy they remembered in the first term. Trump had an opportunity to create a new party and set the country on a new direction. But it is clear that is not within his capabilities. I personally don’t see him as the Great Satan. My observation is that in these last 4 years he has had a significant mental decline with 2 characteristics. First he is suffering dementia. It is clear his memory slipping badly, One notable recent example is he called the previous President who signed a trade deal with Mexico and Canada an “Idiot.” That idiot was himself. I find it hard to lay that off to trolling. Secondly he has delusions, quoting Bonaparte and styling himself as a Royal, having toadies enter a bill for his third term, etc. etc. That is not what people voted for or expected. Nor is that a pendulum swing. I believe his chaos, if not his policies, will cause a 2008 style economic crash, or worse.

IF I am right I think you will see sign by the end of summer. Then people will turn on him, he is not a sympathetic character and will get as good as he got. What will come of this I can not predict.

I do think we have a huge sucking political vacume and someone will jump on that as an opposition leader. Much will depend upon the quality of that person.

Enough of my thoughts. My guesses are seldom correct which is why I use a money manager. All that is sure is that we live in interesting times and we both see to be in relatively safe spaces.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 02 Mar 2025, 03:56:57

It's a nationalist authoritarian government, they are springing up all over the world just like in the 1930's. In that sense EnergyUnlimited is right, you probably haven't seen anything yet! But the funding is the key. America needs to default on it's debt if it hopes to go forward much further. If it doesn't it will be broke like Britain was coming into WWI and WWII. People assume they can just print money, but that leads to hyper inflation. No, they still have to flog the debt to get their operating costs and that means crippling interest payments now. They are boxed in.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 02 Mar 2025, 03:59:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')Most people, IMHO, voted for thr guy they remembered in the first term.

IMO it was driven by desire to disassemble ultra-leftist system regardless of cost and consequences.
So Fred Flintstone could also win.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')rump had an opportunity to create a new party and set the country on a new direction. But it is clear that is not within his capabilities.

He already succeeded.
America is certainly going in new direction and it is likely irreversible because its credibility as reliable ally is damaged for good.
In Europe it is noticed, in Russia and China too. Everywhere in fact.
Any prospective puppet states will look for their sponsor somewhere else.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y observation is that in these last 4 years he has had a significant mental decline with 2 characteristics. First he is suffering dementia. It is clear his memory slipping badly, One notable recent example is he called the previous President who signed a trade deal with Mexico and Canada an “Idiot.” That idiot was himself. I find it hard to lay that off to trolling.

It could be a sort of trolling. Watch "Trump Gaza" clip for a precedence.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') do think we have a huge sucking political vacume and someone will jump on that as an opposition leader. Much will depend upon the quality of that person.

This vacuum is filled by Trump & Co.
Leftie paranoia in US was so widespread that conservative part of population would now support not only Trump but literally anyone capable to oppose it, including ghost busters and Marshmallow Man.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ll that is sure is that we live in interesting times and we both see to be in relatively safe spaces.
I agree. Even my wife have started to observe West politics and until now she was declaring no interest in what barbarians are doing. But now it is too entertaining to miss.
Her last comment was "so you really can come to American President office for a quarrel?
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 02 Mar 2025, 06:48:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I')t's a nationalist authoritarian government, they are springing up all over the world just like in the 1930's. In that sense EnergyUnlimited is right, you probably haven't seen anything yet! But the funding is the key. America needs to default on it's debt if it hopes to go forward much further. If it doesn't it will be broke like Britain was coming into WWI and WWII. People assume they can just print money, but that leads to hyper inflation. No, they still have to flog the debt to get their operating costs and that means crippling interest payments now. They are boxed in.

Exactly.
For most of educated Germans Hitler was also looking like a joke and troll.
But he was a bad joke.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 02 Mar 2025, 17:47:51

Hitler had big backers, the corporations, even American corporations operating there, were behind him. They wanted profits and he delivered. The Vatican was behind him and that's more important than many would believe. Also bankers.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')erman financial operations worldwide were facilitated by banks such as the Bank for International Settlements, Chase and Morgan, and Union Banking Corporation. Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. acted for German tycoon Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler's rise to power.
wiki.

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/ ... ndworldwar

Banks and corporations don't care whose in power as long as they make profits. And if trump's disassembling the government octopus then I imagine that will only increase the power of the private sector. Still, aside from sacking a few trans generals and closing the border, I see little meat on the table as yet. Wait till the American public get a taste of the price hikes that come from tariffs and we'll see some discontent! But then again they have just suffered 2 years of rampant inflation anyway so they are well prepared for it. At the end of the day, as long as people can put food on the table they don't care too much. Look at all those homeless people. They are not jumping up and down are they. They have accepted their lot and are getting fed through EBT and church handouts so all is quiet.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 13 Jun 2025, 16:02:08

Fat, Black and privileged

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congresswoman Hit With Federal Charges Over Clash At ICE Detention Facility
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby careinke » Fri 13 Jun 2025, 18:08:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') AM enjoying retirement, very much thank you. At 74 I am on my 9th year.

Canceled my Netflix subscription. I hust watch the news instead.

A bit more seriously I think by June there will be a substantial back lash and the tide will change as the Congress Critters figure out that Trump association is hurtful to re-election chances.

Ot will take that long for those in the middle not paying attention to get adequately riled.

My best guess.


Your guess has not panned out so well, care to make another?

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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 16 Jun 2025, 07:18:13

Sick in the head Leftists travel to Egypt to do a publicity march to the Gaza border. They didn't even get out of Cairo. They pulled a "sit in" stunt and were beaten by angry Egyptians :lol:
arrested, then promptly deported.

A pleasure to watch.
https://x.com/l3v1at4an/status/1933677331937181878

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... sted-egypt
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 01 Sep 2025, 05:27:13

Drug addled Boomer yuppies and a variety of other devil worshipers get another taste of mother nature at the recent burning man festival out on the dusty plains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QH4_qOmSU
If you just want to see the sexy girl dancing, 7:40s
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 01 Sep 2025, 17:27:05

The desert is, if anything, unpredictable, but usually unpredictably unfun. Sandstorm followed by a good blob of rain. Welcome to the mudpit. It won't stop raining here either, but at least we didn't have any of the 100F+ days in August. That was nice.
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Re: Idiocracy now?

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 01 Sep 2025, 17:34:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'Y')our guess has not panned out so well, care to make another?


I'll take a guess, Trump/MAGA won't be doing so well in the polls in June... 2026. No one's really lost their health insurance yet. The economy is not in recession; inflation is moderately annoying; ROI is doing ok. I don't think those things hold together that well over the next year though. Tariffs are not good things, huge deficits are not so good either, both is pretty bad mojo.
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