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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 02 Dec 2024, 16:21:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')utin doesn’t hate the dollar and actually wants Russia to once again be able to use it with its partners for reasons of convenience, but it was the US that forced his country to de-dollarize and pioneer alternative financial instruments out of necessity.

Trump threatened over the weekend to impose 100% tariffs on those BRICS members that either help create a new BRICS currency or back any replacements to the dollar. This was in response to reports over the past year of Russia’s BRICS chairmanship about this group’s alleged plans. Influential members of the Alt-Media Community fueled this speculation with their wishful thinking claims, but the last BRICS Summit didn’t achieve anything of tangible significance, which was explained here.

Neither BRICS’ most passionate enthusiasts nor its most zealous critics alike can admit that no new currency is on the horizon and none of its members’ currencies will replace the dollar. While it’s true that they’re using national currencies more frequently, this was only due to the need to work around the US’ unilateral sanctions on Russia that were imposed after its special operation. Russia is still an energy and agricultural superpower so its partners couldn’t comply with them without hurting their interests too.

Therein lies the dilemma that Trump’s found himself in. Incipient de-dollarization trends pose a latent threat to one of the pillars upon which the US’ unipolar hegemony is maintained. It won’t materialize anytime soon, but downplaying or ignoring it could prove disastrous in the long term. At the same time, while the solution of lifting the sanctions is simple enough, it’s politically unfeasible in the current context given domestic and international pressures.

From Trump’s perspective, while the dollar would greatly benefit from this, his personal reputation and his country’s international one could be greatly harmed by the perception of them conceding to Putin’s demand for lifting the sanctions without anything in return. Likewise, the concessions that Trump might demand of him for this could be politically unfeasible for Putin, who isn’t going to pull his troops out of the entirety of the territory that Ukraine claims as its own. A compromise must therefore be reached.
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Whatever you think of the bellicose pronouncements of the incoming president, there are global headwinds that are very strong and entrenched to be overcome. He's not the first to promise a turnaround for the average people.

What do all these men have in common?

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They came to power at the time of PeakOil, when the world was no longer able to carry on business as usual. At the end of the day that's the driving factor, the good times are over, the dark years of de-industrialization are upon us.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ajor domestic manufacturers such as Volkswagen , Mercedes-Benz Group and BMW have issued profit warnings in recent weeks, citing economic weakness and sluggish demand in China, the world's largest car market.Oct 18, 2024

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')I analysis: According to recent data, global industrial output is currently experiencing a decline, with manufacturing production falling for several consecutive months, signifying a downturn in factory activity across the world; this is primarily attributed to weakened demand, a shift from goods to services post-pandemic, and ongoing concerns about global trade flows.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or the manufacturing sector, the risks of a more severe downturn have increased in advanced economies, but a slowdown in the sector remains the more likely outcome, says Senior Global Economist Ariane Curtis in a new report.


We still have plenty of Oil! Just not the growing amount needed to offset population pressures etc.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby AdamB » Tue 03 Dec 2024, 15:34:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')We still have plenty of Oil! Just not the growing amount needed to offset population pressures etc.


Oil production has been meeting growing population needs since the global peak oil of 1979. It is called "improving efficiency". In Australia I suppose it is only taught to children with intellectual potential, i.e. can count to 20 if allowed to take their shoes off and count their toes as well. [smilie=3some.gif]

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 03 Dec 2024, 17:07:53

Let me guess adam, a couple of lame one liners about Australia? A stupid picture? You really contribute nothing to the forum, you know that don't you? No in-depth analysis, not even a relevant story. Just dribble, Adam Dribble. But what could one expect from degenerate white trash.

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby AdamB » Wed 04 Dec 2024, 00:00:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'L')et me guess adam, a couple of lame one liners about Australia? A stupid picture?

Data. Nothing you have any interest in, being raised the way you were.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Wed 04 Dec 2024, 01:38:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', ' ')Image


Go back to Reddit :roll:
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby AdamB » Wed 04 Dec 2024, 20:49:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Go back to Reddit :roll:

Why? Chickenshit like you blocked me the instant I showed up. Coward. "We've got oil in Australia....but can't find it because we're so...so...so...STUUUUPPPIIDDDD.

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby yellowcanoe » Wed 04 Dec 2024, 22:34:04

The American dollar is great -- it's worth a lot more than the Canadian dollars I am paid in!
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby careinke » Thu 05 Dec 2024, 01:47:05

BTC just broke $100,000 USD and still rising, that's about $156,000 Ausie dollars. So, it is looking like a good Alternative. So far BTC has risen 143% YTD, Gold has risen about 29% YTD probably because it is too heavy to really fly, it has a hard enough time keeping up with inflation.

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 05 Dec 2024, 14:02:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'S')o far BTC has risen 143% YTD, Gold has risen about 29% YTD probably because it is too heavy to really fly

Yes but remember, Gold retains it's gains, whereas BC gives them back in spectacular crashes. The analogy is putting your money in the bank compared to putting it into the slots :wink:

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 05 Dec 2024, 14:53:24

The funny thing is that when stocks rise in a bull market people tend to attribute it to the political party in power at the time. This is patent nonsense of course since the cycles in the markets assert themselves regardless. Trump's comment on the BC rise was "You're welcome" and of course the gullible voters (one here on record) believe it was his election that precipitated it, but the coinheads for the longest time claimed it would rise because of the "BC cycles" So which is it, a trump rise or a cyclical rise? Because it can't be both :roll:

This is the main reason serious investors steer clear of it, there is no rational basis to it, no metrics you can use to judge it's performance, and no foundation now either since the "BC is money" meme which was the basis of the white paper has been blown out of the water. The analysis side of it reminds me of a trend I saw back in 2006~7 where people were buying stocks based on Astrology. That worked then too, in a bubble everything rises :lol:

A wise investor spends more time focused on the market downsides than patting themselves on the back about the upside because the downside is the thing that will pull the rug out from under you and leave you sitting in the gutter. Most of the crypto's have disappeared into obscurity because people lost faith in them. BC just has a bigger faith base then most is all. Dogecoin, the oldest memecoin has surged an astonishing 150% since Election Day, eclipsing BC's gains. But does anyone here take Doge seriously? The doge-hodlers do, to them it's a better "bet" than BC.


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But you see dogecoin is the Church of the latter day saints but BC hodlers believe theirs is the true faith, the Jehovas Witnesses. The church of the Davidians was obviously a false faith because it's gone and the Seventh Day Adventists (Etherium) claims it is the true way. What a circus :mrgreen:
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby careinke » Fri 06 Dec 2024, 06:06:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'S')o far BTC has risen 143% YTD, Gold has risen about 29% YTD probably because it is too heavy to really fly

Yes but remember, Gold retains it's gains, whereas BC gives them back in spectacular crashes. The analogy is putting your money in the bank compared to putting it into the slots :wink:

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Gold has been falling since Trump won. The Chinese have made a significant gold discovery which will further push the price down. They are calling it the Golden Mountain. MSNBC is claiming Gold Exchanges are using Gold to buy BTC.

The Trump administration is VERY pro BTC and plans to use it as backing for the US dollar, with a goal of holding 5% of the total BTC supply. The BTC will be held for twenty years before it can be sold. Of course, our Oil Exports will have to be paid for with US Dollars. I am very interested in seeing how this works out. Since I am in the top 1% of current BTC holders this should work out very well for me.

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby careinke » Fri 06 Dec 2024, 07:38:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ucky Claims: The funny thing is that when stocks rise in a bull market people tend to attribute it to the political party in power at the time. This is patent nonsense of course since the cycles in the markets assert themselves regardless. Trump's comment on the BC rise was "You're welcome" and of course the gullible voters (one here on record) believe it was his election that precipitated it, but the coinheads for the longest time claimed it would rise because of the "BC cycles" So which is it, a trump rise or a cyclical rise? Because it can't be both :roll:


Of course it can be both, do you just look at one variable when evaluating an investment? Just because Trump has taken the Orange Pill doesn't mean BTC no longer has cycles. That's almost as ridiculous as the first part of your paragraph where you seemed to have given anthropomorphic powers to the markets to "assert themselves". How silly.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ucky Claims: This is the main reason serious investors steer clear of it, there is no rational basis to it, no metrics you can use to judge it's performance, and no foundation now either since the "BC is money" meme which was the basis of the white paper has been blown out of the water. The analysis side of it reminds me of a trend I saw back in 2006~7 where people were buying stocks based on Astrology. That worked then too, in a bubble everything rises :lol:


Interesting, but wrong. Fidelity, Black Rock, Ark, El Salvador, Argentina, China, Russia, Ukraine, Florida and Numerous pension funds are all invested in BTC. Are you saying none of them are serious investors? Heck, even Warren Buffett holds some (although he may not know about it). I could go on and on and on, but I think you get the idea. It is has really simple metrics over time, BTC always goes up and too the right.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ucky Also Claims: A wise investor spends more time focused on the market downsides than patting themselves on the back about the upside because the downside is the thing that will pull the rug out from under you and leave you sitting in the gutter. Most of the crypto's have disappeared into obscurity because people lost faith in them. BC just has a bigger faith base then most is all. Dogecoin, the oldest memecoin has surged an astonishing 150% since Election Day, eclipsing BC's gains. But does anyone here take Doge seriously? The doge-hodlers do, to them it's a better "bet" than BC.


Hmm I take credit for both my successes and failures seriously, can't learn if you don't have failures. Down markets are where the real money is made. Every "Coiner" I know has been wrecked at least once; the ones that stay and learn become rich.

You are a little low on the number of crypto coins introduced per day. It is over 50K per day. I have a lot of different coins air dropped to me all the time, I just hide them and ignore them. On a lark, I spent a hundred bucks on Shib, just because I've never owned 35 million of anything. Now that bag is worth a grand. I have no DOGE. That said, DOGE has been the gateway drug for a LOT of Bit Coiners who have gone on to other choices.

Today BTC was extremely volatile taking out Long and Shorts using Margin Trading providing the exchanges over a Billion dollars in profits. I was glad to see it clear the way to higher prices.

Personally, I concentrate on BTC and SOL. Right now, my SOL is outperforming my BTC. All of that could change, BTC is my generational wealth. Everything else can be sold if something better comes along, which is highly likely with the breakneck speed of technology changes going on.

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby AdamB » Sat 07 Dec 2024, 01:08:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yellowcanoe', 'T')he American dollar is great -- it's worth a lot more than the Canadian dollars I am paid in!

What is the exchange rate nowadays? I worked in Canada for a year, training the Canucks how to "get'er done" American oil field style. Got paid in loonies and had to exchange them. Wonderful people though, western Canadians. Like Americans in the inter mountain west regions. Except in the cities, Canadians were nice folks even if they lived in the cities.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby careinke » Sat 07 Dec 2024, 03:16:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yellowcanoe', 'T')he American dollar is great -- it's worth a lot more than the Canadian dollars I am paid in!

What is the exchange rate nowadays? I worked in Canada for a year, training the Canucks how to "get'er done" American oil field style. Got paid in loonies and had to exchange them. Wonderful people though, western Canadians. Like Americans in the inter mountain west regions. Except in the cities, Canadians were nice folks even if they lived in the cities.



Today, CAD/USD is .684 so basically one Canadian Dollar is worth 68 cents US and falling. Not quite as bad as the Aussie Dollar which is only worth .639 US dollars and is also dumping. Lucky is either not smart enough to understand Stats, or maybe he read how to lie with statistics, and is just not very good at it.

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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 07 Dec 2024, 07:58:42

Well if you two have finished with your bullshit we'll get back on topic.

Trump warns BRICS nations against replacing US dollar

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON, Nov 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Saturday demanded that BRICS member countries commit to not creating a new currency or supporting another currency that would replace the United States dollar or face 100% tariffs.
"We require a commitment from these Countries that they will neither create a new BRICS Currency, nor back any other Currency to replace the mighty U.S. Dollar or, they will face 100% Tariffs, and should expect to say goodbye to selling into the wonderful U.S. Economy," Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social.
"They can go find another 'sucker'. There is no chance that the BRICS will replace the U.S. Dollar in International Trade, and any Country that tries should wave goodbye to America."
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-war ... 024-11-30/

Typical bellicose rhetoric from the orange headed buffoon, but why is he even mentioning it? Why threaten other nations, unless there is a credible threat of it happening...

Replace the Mighty US Debt is what he's referring to. You trade with the US or many other nations and you have to buy $US to do so. You sell a ton of oil or food to the US and in return you get an account full of digital $US, stuff you need to unload. Russia needs nothing from the US. Nor does China, nor Saudi Arabia. They have no use for the buck so why not go with something else. Oh sure Saudi Arabia gets some jets from time to time but it's balance of trade more than covers that. Besides, they can get that military hardware from Russia or China, It's just as good.

Once the alternative currency is established America's debt creation days are over, the 36 or 45 Trillion will be a millstone, and who owns most of that debt? The US citizens mostly. The entire US social security "Trust" fund is composed of it. The nation will do a Soviet Union style collapse and that will be that.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby AdamB » Sat 07 Dec 2024, 23:21:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', ' ') Lucky is either not smart enough to understand Stats, or maybe he read how to lie with statistics, and is just not very good at it.
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Lucky has one overwhelming noticable characteristic. He believes something (for whatever reason, but unlikely to involve much in the way of structured thought) and then, knowing how to chickenpeck on a keyboard to find internet information that agrees with him, finds these tidbits and posts them in support of his feelings/hopes/dreams whatever.

But he can't think. Critically or otherwise. Not even logically it seems. His belief rules him, and he doesn't appear to be inherently ignorant (although obviously uneducated), and as his friends are probably even more ignorant than him, but believe the same world ending spew that he does, presto. neoNazi buddies, where, amusingly, he is probably the smart one of the bunch. Or at least the best jack booted goose stepper when they practice out of sight of normal folks.

So he is intellectually stuck. ALL he can do it follow this pattern. He cannot for a second question what are to him fundamental truths, like a religious zealot, they BELEIVE, and nothing is so strong as that.

Smart folks knew this long ago. Even Lucky can learn, if only a little. But it stops there.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 05:26:24

I wonder if adam contributed to the thread? Or just did his usual whiny bitch routine, the latter I'll wager. Mind you if Australia dollars were the world reserve and we were 36 Trillion up the wazoo, if our nation was being run by a dementia case, and overrun by illegal immigrants, I'd probably find it hard to focus on reality too :lol:
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Dec 2024, 11:20:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')Mind you if Australia dollars were the world reserve and we were 36 Trillion up the wazoo, if our nation was being run by a dementia case, and overrun by illegal immigrants, I'd probably find it hard to focus on reality too :lol:

As someone living in America, I don't get any feeling of "overrun", more like an awareness of the changing demographics over my lifetime. While children might be fascinated by the politicazation of things like immigration, well, children are fascinated by all sorts of things.

I am forced to grant the dementia case angle...but America has been here before with Ronny, has done pretty well with the current dementia addled President, and our soon to be President/convicted rapist is just the next in line. Of course, all of these folks are better than suckling on the 3rd member of a King because of the gutlessness of its citizens, happy in their bondage and really, without even the urge to free themselves, can just keep being the sheeple they are.

So yeah, it will be an interesting 4 years in America. With luck some of the things that the Republicans have brought to light will be incorporated in within the next election reponse from the Democrats, allowing things to get back to the normal balance where the concerns of the normal folks in the middle will be addressed.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 10 Dec 2024, 18:20:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')Gold has been falling since Trump won. The Chinese have made a significant gold discovery which will further push the price down.


??? Election was November 5, 2024, on Nov 4 Gold was $2,721 today, $2,693. It's hardly moved in price inke, and your exposed as a Shill yet again. BT rallied because Trump won, sure, a wholly artificial gain, like all BC gains. You know what that means don't you, if he doesn't live to inauguration BC will collapse in price. You base your life savings on that :lol:

As for the Chinese find, don't even go there. Don't even pretend to understand the dynamics of the Gold market. It's a Real market inke with real users, not a bunch of kids and wallmart greeters staring at their iphones every 20 minutes.
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Re: Suddenly Everyone Is Hunting Alternatives To US $

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 10 Dec 2024, 18:23:35

You just can't help yourself can you inke, your like a whore, going from thread to thread spreading your bitcoin legs in the hope others will jump in. That's the basis of BC, like all Ponzi schemes it relies on a never ending flow of new suckers.
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