by theluckycountry » Sat 14 Sep 2024, 03:50:31
Saudi Central Bank Caught Secretly Buying 160 Tonnes of Gold in Switzerland
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Saudis have joined other Asian countries in ditching their long-term sensitivity to the gold price. Evidence suggests the Saudi central bank has been covertly buying 160 tonnes of gold in Switzerland since early 2022, contributing to the current gold bull market.
Although the Saudis played a key role in the birth of the global dollar standard in the early 1970s, this time around they might even become a lynchpin for its dissolution...
Introduction
Until recently, Saudi Arabia’s gold demand would decline when the gold price went up and strengthen when the price went south. This dampened volatility in the gold market, which for many decades was ruled by the West.
Ever since the West immobilized Russia’s dollar assets in February 2022, those with diplomatic disagreements with the West are increasingly exchanging their dollars for physical gold. Saudi Arabia is the latest country—after China and Thailand—of which I have found cross-border trade statistics showing it has shifted from being price sensitive to a price driver...
...Just like the reported gold reserves by the PBoC, the number put out by SAMA is purely political. By hiding how much precious metal the nation truly owns, the House of Saud avoids openly upsetting the United States.
But the evolution of countries in Asia storing more and more of their trade surpluses in gold—a time-tested neutral and sanction proof reserve asset—is clear. Next to 160 tonnes by SAMA, I calculate the PBoC bought 1,600 tonnes since the war in Ukraine. Both central banks, the former of the most influential country in the oil market and the latter of the second largest economy globally, must be confident in what direction the gold market is headed.
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We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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by AdamB » Sat 14 Sep 2024, 18:22:02
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')Like Gold it has a 5000 year history too, it aint going away, unlike pets.com and WeWork and 10,000 other investments. It aint going anywhere, but up over time.
Just like US market investments during your, and my, entire lifetime.
Except better.
I noticed you didn't have a milliseconds thought for the math of it, as I demonstrated. Was it because you don't know any, and therefore are intellectually helpless....as usual...when any math, logic, science or inkling of analytic thought gets involved?
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by AdamB » Mon 16 Sep 2024, 20:08:11
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') bet you wish you had bought some Gold adam, but people who live tawdry lives like you just don't, they can never afford it.
You should learn to read better. I don't need to "wish", I did, and mentioned elsewhere the returns on it versus market investments since the early 1980's within the last week or so.
Go find it. Learn something. Stop appearing so flipping stupid before everyone else figures out you are for themselves, and laughs off everything else you say as Nazi inspired nonsense.
My gold is nice, and I mentioned why. It certainly ISN'T because of the return on it I would get if I sold it today. Simple math. Try some.
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by AdamB » Wed 18 Sep 2024, 08:53:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'A')re you telling lies again Adam?
I laid out the math. Posted it, my gold, my investments, as it happened. Asked mousepad to check the arithmetic, should I have flubbed something. Ask a local 10 year old in 5th grade on the high school diploma track to check it if you'd like, or go back to school and learn how to add, subtract, divide and multiply yourself, and then read the post.
I DARE a halfwitted uneducated neonazi like you to refute it. Nazi putz.
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by AdamB » Fri 20 Sep 2024, 19:57:56
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'L')ets look at some Gold Price charts in local currencies for a moment.
You have to do that maybe, your country doesn't have the world reserve currency. And the poor returns on my gold and investments have already been demonstrated by my example previously provided in the currency that matters. It had some math involved, I apologize, but I find it difficult to reduce it any further to your level of mathematics...1st grade...kindergarden? Find a 2nd grader, ask them for help with it.
Now run along and work at your intellectual maximum to make important things happen like Queenslanders are known for...

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by theluckycountry » Fri 20 Sep 2024, 23:35:31
Gold is still climbing! Breaking new records every other day. Either it's still playing catchup with the inflation of the last couple of years, or the inflation hasn't abated, or their is big demand because it's telegraphing something?
Let's look at a few stories off the web.
Gold vs. Bitcoin: Why "Digital Gold" is Losing Ground to Physical Precious Metals
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')old prices have surged past $2,500 per ounce, overshadowing Bitcoin, which struggles to break the $60,000 mark. This shift comes as investors anticipate the Federal Reserve may soon cut interest rates, boosting gold’s appeal as a safe haven.
For the first time in history, gold prices surpassed $2,500/oz on speculation that the Fed is getting closer to a rate cut. The previous high for spot gold, set last month, was surpassed on Friday afternoon when prices soared beyond $2,500/oz. Following dismal US housing statistics, which has bolstered predictions of quicker and larger cutbacks from the Fed, the index increased.
This comes when Bitcoin has been unable to breakthrough $60,000 and is fast losing its shine as the "digital gold."
https://www.blockhead.co/2024/08/21/gol ... -metals-2/I don't think much of this interest rate theory, when interest rates went up in the 70's so did the gold price, when interest rates went up in the latter 2000's Gold went up again. And with rates going up after Covid, the Gold price went up again. Analysts look everywhere and their conclusions are not always valid. The one thing they typically fail to recognize is Gold's consistent rise with inflation, beyond any commodity index. Simply put, Gold is Money. Real money that tracks the cost of things, land, food, whatever. It doesn't get watered down like paper money.
Bitcoin claims to be this too, "Digital Gold" but that was just a marketing ploy and as we have seen it's failed miserably. Oh it's up massively since it's inception but that has nothing to do with tracking inflation or being a hedge against money printing. It's just a measure of how stupid people became, like the Beanie Baby craze. It's limited to 20 million!! So what? It's infinitely divisible and there are thousands of others just like it. There is nothing stopping anyone creating an identical digital system and calling it BitGold and hiding 20 million on the web's servers. What's the difference? The difference is tens of millions of people aren't already hodling BC tight in the hope it will go to the moon. It's a captured market, there is no industry demanding BC, no natural demand, just greed in the minds of a select group of people and that group has now reached critical mass. There is no great cadre of people "Wanting in" like there was.
Today I read that Blackrock is going to take a big stake in BC because of fears over the $35T debt the US has. If that doesn't push the price over $70 nothing will, but I doubt it will, just like I doubt Blackrock is serious. You don't make money by telling people you're going to buy something then join the rush. You make it by buying in early and selling INTO the rush.
BlackRock Reveals It’s Quietly Preparing For A $35 Trillion Federal Reserve Dollar Crisis With Bitcoin—Predicted To Spark A Sudden Price Boom https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-as ... rice-boom/BlackRock has $10 trillion in assets under management, it described bitcoin as a "unique diversifier" to hedge against economic and political risk. Talk, it's just Talk, Talking heads from a global octopus that has it's filthy hands in every unsavory activity on the Planet. Take it for what it's worth.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')nvestors Against Genocide engaged extensively with BlackRock regarding the need for genocide-free investing. Ultimately, that engagement failed. BlackRock was interested in ESG investing, but not in avoiding investments tied to genocide. Investors Against Genocide is no longer engaging BlackRock.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-as ... rice-boom/Now this is a good recent analysis on Gold I believe.
Why Gold Is Breaking Records: The Story Of The 1970s$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n April 9
2024, the price on an ounce of gold exceeded $2,350, reaching an all-time high after a series of recent record highs, and the upward trend continues!
As a reminder, an ounce weighing 31.1 grams was worth $35 on August 15, 1971, when Richard Nixon decided to leave the Bretton Woods Agreement, then $280 on January 1, 2000, before soaring again. Should we welcome the remarkable rise in the price of gold, or should we consider the collapse in the value of the dollar? Both, and investors who have bet on gold, particularly since the early 2000s, have done very well.
But why is gold rising at a time when inflation is falling in the United States and Europe, and central banks are celebrating, reassuring and announcing interest rate cuts? Inflation has been brought under control without sinking into recession, so isn't everything working out for the best?
If gold is still rising,
it means it doesn't believe in this scenario. As we know, the yellow metal has flair: it began a long climb in the early 2000s, in response to the Fed's accommodating monetary policy, which began to reduce interest rates following the crash of technology stocks in January 2000 and the attacks of September 11, 2001. Anticipating "asset inflation" (limited to real assets such as real estate, equities and art), gold perfectly protected its holders. More recently, gold has been climbing since the end of 2019, heralding the inflation (this time in consumer goods) that took off in mid-2020.
Inflation has eased, undoubtedly, but remains at a significant level, higher than during the Covid period. Above all, the astronomical budget deficits in the United States and several European countries, including France, could force central banks to start printing money again. The announced rate cuts are likely to be hasty. As a result, inflation is likely to pick up again. Western countries experienced a similar situation in the 1970s, with an initial surge in prices in 1973-1974, which was quickly contained. At the time, many people thought the worst was over. However, inflation rose again in 1978-1980, peaking at 13.5% in the United States.
Gold prices had anticipated this second wave by starting to rise in September 1976, after a period of decline. The Fed's governor at the time, Paul Volcker, was forced to raise the key rate to 20% in order to significantly reduce inflation. Even half that would be inconceivable today, given the scale of public and private debt. The whole economy would collapse! So, how will we get out of a second wave if it happens? Nobody really knows…
The two waves of inflation in the 1970s were triggered by the oil shocks of 1973 (following the Yom Kippur War) and 1979 (linked to the Iranian revolution). Today, there is no real major shock, but energy remains expensive, especially for Europe (few resources, costly energy transition, boomerang sanctions against Russia). What's more, the price of a barrel of oil is rising again, and has just passed the $90 mark…
It's still too early to know whether a second wave of inflation will occur, but gold seems to suspect it...
https://goldbroker.com/news/why-gold-br ... 1970s-3329A good view in my opinion because it's a long term view. If you think of Gold in terms of quarters you're an Idiot! That's the paper gold contract cycle and everyone playing it gets burned. For the last 20 years and more the big buyers of Gold have been China and Russia and Saudi Arabia and India. Massive Gold buyers!
10 Largest Producers of Gold by Country (Updated 2024)
China. Gold production: 370 metric tons. ...
Australia. Gold production: 310 metric tons. ...
Russia. Gold production: 310 metric tons. ...
Canada. Gold production: 200 metric tons. ...
United States. Gold production: 170 metric tons. ...
So China and Russia have not only been hoarding a lot of their native gold production but have been active buyers on the world markets. Why? Oh Dear... Need I say it, again! There are two competing New World Orders. The bankrupt west with it's desire to go "Digital" currency and wipe out it's debts in a great transition, where YOU will be stripped of your pension and anything you have tied to debt. And the BRICS system which is clearly planning a switch to a stable Gold backed currency.
They have the Lions share of Gold, the OIL, the minerals and the food. In other words all the things that matter to life on earth. The WEST has nothing but Debts and a printing press. That's why I reject shitcoin out of hand, along with shares and bonds and all the other manmade investment vehicles. It's smoke and mirrors, it's value dependent on hopium that it will be worth more in the future. And that's not my opinion, the very definition of Fiat currency spells it out. It's the trust and belief that the government will guarantee all these things that gives them value, it's the belief of the people in them that keeps them afloat. Tesla is the classic example of this, rising in paper book value (not real value) to be worth more than the 5 leading auto makers on the Planet combined! Why? Because idiots believed in it
How it's looking today? It's a disaster but still worth 3/4 of a Trillion on paper, why? Because people still believe in it, and more importantly, because corrupt private pension funds refuse to sell it that's why. They know it's worthless, it was always in the Red, but it's too big to fail, too much a part of the confidence game. When the Reset comes you'll see it fall like a stone and it will all be blamed on Russia or the Jews or someone. And Guess what? You'll believe it too
Thousands of Shares and Currencies, manmade financial instruments, have collapsed into oblivion over the centuries but Gold and Silver have stayed the course. Maintaining their value not only in the nations that defaulted or collapsed but in every other nation on the Planet, for all time. Looking around the World today I see that same intrinsic value playing out as always. It's only the dying West, with America as its mouthpiece that is claiming things are fine. But all that's just talk to keep the
citizens consumers of the West fully invested in the worthless paper. The rulers of the West don't believe it for a moment and have spread their own wealth into tangible assets, much of which is no doubt outside of the US. The continental US will not be a nice place to live in the decades to come just as Mexico is not a nice place now. Hawaii perhaps, the virgin Islands, places like that may well be ok.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
by AdamB » Sat 21 Sep 2024, 23:41:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'G')old is still climbing! Breaking new records every other day.
So are US markets. And market investments have clobbered my gold investment.....why are you willing to suffer lousy returns? You figure it is genius to make less % gains in their investment than a McDonalds worker with a market tracking fund? Grow up.
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by theluckycountry » Wed 02 Oct 2024, 18:56:02
'Get Out Of Stocks...Buy Gold' - Charles Nenner Warns Of Imminent 'End Of American Empire'
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')enowned geopolitical and financial cycle expert Charles Nenner has been warning of a huge war cycle.
Well that's not news to me, the 100 year fourth turning was cycle is well under way.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen will this market crash come? Nenner says, “It’s still going to take half a year or a year until everybody realizes how bad the situation is compared to the BRIC countries." " The dollar is not going to be the major currency. Nixon stopped backing it by gold, and Saudia Arabia stopped backing it by oil. It is not backed by anything. So, why would you trust the dollar?
Well I can't argue with any of that.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')r. Nenner worked for Goldman, Sachs & Co in NY, from 2001 to 2008. Before that time, Mr. Nenner worked exclusively for Goldman, Sachs & Co. in London, where he served as a technical analyst for Goldman's fixed income trading group from 1998 to 2001. From 1997 to 1998, he served as the head of trading research at Rabobank International, and from 1992 to 1994, he was head of Market Timing at Ofek Securities in Tel Aviv.
In 2001, Charles Nenner founded, and is president of, the Charles Nenner Research Center. Mr. Nenner has provided his independent market research to the following entities all over the world: hedge funds, banks, brokerage firms, family offices, and individual clients.
Probably knows more about finance than Adam, though not in Adam's opinion.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... can-empire
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
by AdamB » Wed 02 Oct 2024, 19:03:48
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]'Get Out Of Stocks...Buy Gold' - Charles Nenner Warns Of Imminent 'End Of American Empire'
Yeah, I'll sell my gold but only if someone pays me the same ratio in gains I've made in the market since I bought it.
Make you the same trade Lucky....
<snicker snicker come on Lucky....keep doing your thing....>

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by AdamB » Wed 02 Oct 2024, 19:07:40
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'H')ere, listen to the Jews, if it's one thing they know it's MONEY.
Does racism go with being a neoNazi? Awhile back you posted something along the lines of "the Jap" in referring to Japanese citizens or the country I presume. Now its the Jews and money. You being a neonazi would seem to be clue as to your opinion on the Jews...I wonder if all your proclivities are as much racist as Nazi?
Haven't heard you talk about a wife or kids or anything. Are you a misogynist, general woman hater or maybe just gay? (which might get you in a BUNCH of trouble with your nazi friends).
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