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THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby Yonnipun » Fri 05 Jul 2024, 09:21:08

I have been reading lately a lot of forums and it turns out that there is a quite high possibility that nuclear bombs do not exist at all. It is just a propaganda to scare people.

Look at the photos made after the explosions in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Wooden houses simply burned away. No need for nuclear bomb for that. One match is enough for that. Concrete houses were standind still. Bank house made of concrete started its work two days after the explosion, trams were running 3 days after the explosion.

Nukes are scam. Explosive type of nuclear explosion simply does not exist. It is a fairy tale to keep people afraid.
Just think about it - you have 30 kg of metal in one hand and 30 kg of metal in other hand and bringing them close together would cause a violent explosion does seem like a kindergarten level of reasoning. But that is what we have been told.

Gun type bomb - shooting one portion of nuclear metal into another portion of nuclear metal. Kindergarten level reasoning.
Implosion type bomb - compressiong metal to double density to start a violent explosion. You just can not compress metal to double density. Another fairy tale.

Also consider this. If nukes would be real then how come terrorist still have not vaporized some cities during 70+ years after the first explosions.

Soviets supposedly managed to make their own bomb already 4 years later in 1949 but some countries still struggle to make their own 70+ years later. Of course russians did not make anything, just produced more propaganda. Terrorist do not use nukes because nukes do not exist . Simple as that.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 05 Jul 2024, 10:10:18

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Unread postby jato0072 » Fri 05 Jul 2024, 12:21:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ukes are scam. Explosive type of nuclear explosion simply does not exist. It is a fairy tale to keep people afraid.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 06 Jul 2024, 07:50:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yonnipun', 'I') have been reading lately a lot of forums and it turns out that there is a quite high possibility that nuclear bombs do not exist at all. It is just a propaganda to scare people.


You are a Russian Spy, sent to this forum with a disinformation campaign to undermine the credibility of the United States Government and it's agencies. We are watching you :badgrin:
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Unread postby Yonnipun » Sat 06 Jul 2024, 11:06:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yonnipun', 'I') have been reading lately a lot of forums and it turns out that there is a quite high possibility that nuclear bombs do not exist at all. It is just a propaganda to scare people.


You are a Russian Spy, sent to this forum with a disinformation campaign to undermine the credibility of the United States Government and it's agencies. We are watching you :badgrin:



On the contrary. Pooptin relies heavily on nuke fear. This is supposedly the reason Ukraine can not bomb Russia back. The war would quickly end if Ukraine could bomb Russian infrastructure but the west does not allow it. Supposedly they fear the nukes.

But nukes are scam. Propaganda, nothing more.

Bank in Hiroshima was operating two days after the explosion, it still operates even today. Trams were operating 3 day after the explosion. Nothing got vaporized there. All lies and propaganda.
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Unread postby Yonnipun » Sat 06 Jul 2024, 11:11:04

https://www3.boj.or.jp/hiroshima/atomic ... index.html

Here is the picture of the bank which was opened 2 days after the explosion. No vaporization.

No "bald " spot. No vapour. Nothing. Usual structural damage from conventional bombing. Wood building burned down in fires.

Nukes are propaganda, nothing more.

Remember , they lie big. Nukes are one of the biggest lie.
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Unread postby Newfie » Sun 14 Jul 2024, 17:54:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yonnipun', 'h')ttps://www3.boj.or.jp/hiroshima/atomic-bombE/index.html

Here is the picture of the bank which was opened 2 days after the explosion. No vaporization.

No "bald " spot. No vapour. Nothing. Usual structural damage from conventional bombing. Wood building burned down in fires.

Nukes are propaganda, nothing more.

Remember , they lie big. Nukes are one of the biggest lie.


I agree we are awash in propaganda and should question everything. And there is a lot of propaganda or dis information around about these bombings.

Yet, I have never before heard someone take the position these bombings were NOT nuclear.

I am curious how you came to that conclusion.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 14 Jul 2024, 20:20:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yonnipun', 'h')ttps://www3.boj.or.jp/hiroshima/atomic-bombE/index.html

Here is the picture of the bank which was opened 2 days after the explosion. No vaporization.

No "bald " spot. No vapour. Nothing. Usual structural damage from conventional bombing. Wood building burned down in fires.

Nukes are propaganda, nothing more.

Remember , they lie big. Nukes are one of the biggest lie.


I agree we are awash in propaganda and should question everything. And there is a lot of propaganda or dis information around about these bombings.

Yet, I have never before heard someone take the position these bombings were NOT nuclear.

I am curious how you came to that conclusion.


You are seriously entertaining this crap Newfie? You think the tens of thousands of japanese that contracted radiation sickness were in on the "Conspiracy" too? That everyone involved, hundreds of thousands in the military and scientific community are all in an 80 year coverup?
This yonnipun is simply off his meds, or a troll. This thread needs to get back on track! Back to reality.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sun 11 Aug 2024, 20:47:47

"Australia needs to arm up by late 2026: Hastie

A Coalition government would set a late-2026 deadline to rapidly build up military stocks and put Australia on a war footing amid growing warnings that a major conflict with China or Russia could erupt by 2027."

https://archive.md/eM5Vk#selection-1779.0-1779.210

Background is Hastie is former SAS and a happy clapper 7 mountains guy and a member of the current conservative opposition party who will be Minister for Military if elected next year. as he dreams of the Rapture.

Trump "will play a critical role in Armageddon as the United States stands alongside Israel in the battle against Islam."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

Mike Pompeo declare, "We will continue to fight these battles. It is a never-ending struggle ... until the Rapture."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pompe ... s-rapture/
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 28 Aug 2025, 22:27:26

MAD was no longer a working nuclear strategy once China and Russia united as allies, but now the formal aspects are being spelt out. The new protocol is "SAD" Strike America Decisively.

China Rejects Trump's Proposal For Nuclear Disarmament Talks With US, Russia
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he push for expanded talks comes as the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, better known as New START, is set to expire on Feb. 5, 2026. With the collapse of the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty in 2019, New START is the only remaining nuclear arms control agreement between Washington and Moscow.

The United States and Russia each hold more than 5,000 warheads, while China is estimated to have at least 600 nuclear warheads, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/chin ... -us-russia

600? China's first nuclear test, known as Project 596, occurred in 1964, 60 years ago. Today they have an advanced air-force and the biggest blue water navy on earth. That mob in Stockholm must have called up the CCP office and asked them, "Hello, yes we were just curious about how many nuclear bombs you have there... 600, thanks, we'll put that in our report" beep beep beep.
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Unread postby AdamB » Thu 28 Aug 2025, 22:42:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I')'ve spoken here much about the BRICS, though no one seems interested in the topic?

The same reason why American Olympic athletes aren't interested in Australian ones. They just can't compare.

What passes as an Olympian in Australian.
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 29 Aug 2025, 07:23:29

When the strike comes it will come out of the blue, no warning other than the warnings you are receiving now, America's endless attacks on Russia and now China. With Kim Jong Un in the mix there will be a big push to strike first

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina is set to host both Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Beijing next week in an unprecedented landmark visit.

This will be Kim's first multilateral international meeting, and the leaders will gather with President Xi Jinping to observe a military parade marking China's "Victory Day" for the the 80th anniversary of Japan's surrender in World War Two. Twenty-six other heads of state are expected to attend the parade, which are generally friendly especially to China and Russia.

As for Russia-China ties, they are still going strong and forging ahead as both remain in the economic crosshairs of Washington: Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping will hold a historic meeting in September that will give a powerful boost to relations between the two countries, Chinese Ambassador to Moscow Zhang Hanhui told TASS in an interview.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/27/chin ... m-intl-hnk

There's your first warning yanks, and duck and cover aint gonna cut it in the age of hypersonic thermonuclears. And for you bible aficionados, there is zero reference to America, specifically in the battle of Armageddon. Russia is mentioned, and the Lion, Britain. Ethiopia and the arab nations surrounding it now, but America is presumed to be non-existent by that time. Erased from history as it were.

Russia and China begin war games in Sea of Japan after Trump nuclear threat
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hough pre-planned, the joint naval exercises that began on Sunday came a day after Donald Trump moved US nuclear submarines closer to Russia in response to inflammatory comments from Russia’s former president Dmitry Medvedev.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/rus ... 44506.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')8 Sept 2024 — Russia is helping China to build a missile attack early warning system, and the two countries are engaged in the joint development of heavy-lift ...

https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/SSI-Medi ... operation/
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 30 Aug 2025, 16:18:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')hen the strike comes it will come out of the blue.....


Countries without nukes because they be stupid be like....
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Countries who invented nuclear weapons and are the only nation IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPECIES TO USE THEM be like.....
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 03 Sep 2025, 21:59:20

Well last week the US was encouraging China to join it and Russia in a renegotiation of the nuclear arms treaty, this week?

'Unstoppable': Xi Unveils Nuclear Triad In Military Parade Challenging West, Alongside Putin & Kim

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All Kim jung Un wanted was recognition, a seat at the big boys table, but the US rejected him, belittled him, "rocket man" the toadie Trump called him. Well he has his seat now :lol: And look out America.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Xi's opening speech featured the words, "Humanity is again faced with a choice of peace or war, dialogue or confrontation, and win-win outcomes or zero-sum games." Concerning Trump and US-China relations...
Trump couldn't resist weighing in on the provocative images. The president wrote ironically, "Please give my warmest regards to Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un, as you conspire against the United States of America."
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... side-putin

So we have a return of the MAD strategy, but this time all missiles are aimed at the US. N-Korea doesn't have long range capability so unless the other allies give them that they will have to be content targeting the local US forces, of which there is quite a number. I sure as shit wouldn't want to be living in the USofA today. If/when this gets started it will be a BBQ there.


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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 04 Sep 2025, 05:56:07

We're not going to war with you this time Yankee, you're on your own.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ormer state premiers Daniel Andrews and Bob Carr will reportedly join authoritarian leaders Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin as guests at a huge Chinese military parade today.
Andrews, an ex Victorian premier, and Carr, a former NSW premier and foreign minister, are reported to be among the 10,000 strong crowd watching the event in Beijing's Tiananmen Square to mark the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/forme ... e66fddb189

The Chinese claim it's the 80th anniversary of them defeating Japan lol. They are rewriting history.

As for Japan, :lol: This is good.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'K')aga and Izumo are the first aircraft carriers built by Japan since the end of World War II. Kaga was built as part of a wider Japanese military buildup

The kaga was the name of one of the 4 carriers that attacked Pearl. A bit insensitive with their staunch ally? Interestingly, some political analysts have long claimed that because the Americans never actually invaded the main islands of Japan, the Japanese don't consider themselves to have been conquered. They simply surrendered for political reasons, a different kettle of fish in their minds.

The Chinese and the Japanese have a lot more in common than either do with the Western (outer barbarians). The new global empire will be very different from the last few, which were all run by white Western patriarchs.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 10 Sep 2025, 06:05:08

NATO Scrambles Jets As Russian Drones Allegedly Enter Poland's Airspace Overnight
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')oland placed its air defenses on the highest state of readiness after the ukraine’s air force warned that Russian drones had crossed into Polish airspace, according to early reports.

ukrainian intel? Well you'd have to believe that wouldn't you :roll:

Fuckers want that Russian oil and Gas, badly!

Add this to the leaked French advisement to hospitals to prepare for incoming wounded in the next 6 months, add it to the German and French statements about putting troops in the ukraine, and a few other very silly pronouncements and we can see they are actually considering going in. The Feckless Idiots are probably going to attack and try and invade Russia :lol: Oh this will be good. Perhaps their plan is to just cut their populations by 60~80%? We still have the Deagle forecast for 2025 in the background...
Then they can surrender and beg Russia to help them rebuild with cheap gas and oil
It worked well for Germany after WWII.

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/kyiv-o ... nter-ahead
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 02 Oct 2025, 18:19:20

Generals Gathered In Their Masses…
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n Tuesday we observed one of the strangest spectacles of our time. President Trump and his "Secretary of War," Pete Hegseth, called a mandatory meeting of all the top brass in the US military. Some 800+ general officers, admirals, and the like gathered at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia for a doubleheader talk from Hegseth and Trump. Because such an event is nearly unprecedented – at least in peacetime – the days leading up to the meeting were increasingly filled with speculation and even dread.

...After Charlie Kirk, perhaps I have become too fond of complicated theories. But it’s ludicrous to have called so many senior guys in for such a silly agenda. A stern memo and/or video sessions would have done. So the big stoopid meeting, IMHO was to cover for a smaller gathering that had to be done in person. And where whoever was summoned would be a big tell as to what the focus was. Johnson then signals his agreement with the speculation: No, Yves… I think you nailed it.

Besides the massive US naval force parked off the coast of Venezuela, we are now hearing that US tanker aircraft are flying to the Middle East via England. We saw the same phenomena in the days preceding the June 24 attack on Iran. If the Trump administration is planning a coordinated attack on Venezuela and Iran, the commanders of USCENTCOM and USSOUTHCOM would be involved. While the plans for such attacks could have been discussed over a SVTCS (i.e., Secure Video Teleconferences), those sessions usually have dozens of straphangers watching. If you want to keep close hold on such planning, you do it in person.

If the CENTCOM and SOUTHCOM commanders had been called to Washington alone, the odds are high that someone would have reported this. With the presence of the US naval force off the coast of Venezuela and the movement of US aircraft towards the Persian Gulf, this likely would have attracted unwanted attention.

What Larry Johnson writes here makes a good deal of sense. Even in Trump World, spending millions of dollars to publicly dress-down the US military makes little sense. A memo or video hook-up would have been far more effective and less disruptive. Was the real purpose of this spectacle to hold a secret side meeting to give orders for an impending, multi-continental war? We’ll know soon…
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/generals-g ... ir-masses/
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Re: THE Nuclear Weapons/War Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 04 Oct 2025, 05:17:10

Ukrainian Drones Hit Oil Refinery, Chemical Plant 1500km Deep Into Russia
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Orsknefteorgsintez oil refinery was struck and suffered damage in the first attack, which lies near the border with Kazakhstan. Videos circulating on social media showed a drone crashing within the refinery grounds, followed by thick black smoke rising above the site. ...Orsknefteorgsintez refinery in Russia’s Orenburg Oblast


April 2024
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')OSCOW. April 19 Orsknefteorgsintez has resumed processing at the Orsk Oil Refinery after a temporary shutdown owing to flooding in the city, the company's press service told reporters. "The plant has begun preparatory measures to bring the technical facilities back on schedule gradually," the press service said. ...Russia's Energy Ministry said that the shutdown at the Orsk refinery would not affect the supply of motor fuel to the domestic market, since the country has sufficient reserves to meet demand fully in the region affected by the flood.


Do we honestly think this will effect Russia? How much oil does Russia import btw? None.
In 2023, the U.S. imported about 8.51 million barrels per day of petroleum (including crude oil, refined products, and other hydrocarbons). Because shale oil and "oil equivalents" is crap and they can't use much of it. The US is vunerable as hell, but not Russia, which is a major exporter. And every time a refinery is hit it will, if anything, effect exports. So how do the effected nations feel about the ukraine after that?

As Russia inches across the ukraine the land it takes becomes Sovereign Russian territory, that will not be given back. The feckless western allies of NATO tell their people to fear invasion, what they should be fearing though is nuclear annihilation. When the Big war starts, all the gloves come off.


https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/ukrain ... eep-russia
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/101626/
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