by AdamB » Fri 18 Feb 2022, 20:45:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ')I mentioned the 30-30 as there are some nine million of them out there in good working condition. 30-06, 308, .223, 270 win. will all be valuable to those that have them. But even the old 30-30 if sighted in properly can do good service in the west when it comes to food instead of trophies.
I've got no overall beef with the 30-30, just haven't seen one in so long I'd about forgotten they existed.
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by vtsnowedin » Fri 18 Feb 2022, 21:00:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ')I mentioned the 30-30 as there are some nine million of them out there in good working condition. 30-06, 308, .223, 270 win. will all be valuable to those that have them. But even the old 30-30 if sighted in properly can do good service in the west when it comes to food instead of trophies.
I've got no overall beef with the 30-30, just haven't seen one in so long I'd about forgotten they existed.
Well you might be hunting in a plains state where 250 yards is considered close range or you are a newbe that is falling for every new "state of the art" cartridge they come out with to get you to buy a new rifle instead of just using the totally serviceable rifle your father or grandfather left you.
I know of no new product that does not fall inside the range of the slowest to fastest, lightest to heaviest, of the old classic calibers.
Take the 6.8 Western for example. It uses heavier bullets then the traditional 270 Win can stabilize, using faster twist barrels but if you need that bullet weight going that fast you could just buy a 7MM Remington mag and have a lot more chance finding ammo at the local hardware store.
by vtsnowedin » Fri 18 Feb 2022, 21:15:23
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'I')n a post apocalypse world your top three needs or priorities are: food, water, and shelter,
Oh dear, so that's your angle, a dooms-day prepper type. Enjoy your baked beans lol
Funny you mention baked beans. I made a pot of them just the other day.I used some bacon instead of the traditional salt pork. And maple syrup instead of white sugar.
The results were very tasty.
by AdamB » Fri 18 Feb 2022, 22:46:49
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ')I mentioned the 30-30 as there are some nine million of them out there in good working condition. 30-06, 308, .223, 270 win. will all be valuable to those that have them. But even the old 30-30 if sighted in properly can do good service in the west when it comes to food instead of trophies.
I've got no overall beef with the 30-30, just haven't seen one in so long I'd about forgotten they existed.
Well you might be hunting in a plains state where 250 yards is considered close range or you are a newbe that is falling for every new "state of the art" cartridge they come out with to get you to buy a new rifle instead of just using the totally serviceable rifle your father or grandfather left you.
Neither of us were born yesterday, and if granddads Winchester Model 71 in 348 Winchester wasn't so hard to get ammo for it would probably still be used more than it is.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') I know of no new product that does not fall inside the range of the slowest to fastest, lightest to heaviest, of the old classic calibers.
Take the 6.8 Western for example. It uses heavier bullets then the traditional 270 Win can stabilize, using faster twist barrels but if you need that bullet weight going that fast you could just buy a 7MM Remington mag and have a lot more chance finding ammo at the local hardware store.
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by AdamB » Sat 19 Feb 2022, 10:39:40
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'I') have to agree with my wife that I don't need any more guns but what has NEED ever had to do with it.
Well, I gotta give both you and the wife props on that one. My wife is resigned to it, other than when she asks occasionally about how much one costs, "oh that one is pretty" and doesn't like the answer.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') With that my loading bench is well stocked so I have stopped shopping while everything gun related is so high cost or not available.
I did the same thing with ammo, buying it in at least half case amounts throughout the pandemic as folks in the black market were selling off at what they considered a profitable price but was far lower than what was available from traditional online sources and whatnot. Then when I realized I had bought enough for my own needs and perhaps a small army of neighbors to withstand an invasion from the nearby megatropolis I stopped. Now online prices are settling out in popular calibers and I won't be needing any for while.
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by Outcast_Searcher » Sat 19 Feb 2022, 12:31:27
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'I') have to agree with my wife that I don't need any more guns but what has NEED ever had to do with it.
Well, I gotta give both you and the wife props on that one. My wife is resigned to it, other than when she asks occasionally about how much one costs, "oh that one is pretty" and doesn't like the answer.
Men and women both like to spend money on things they don't actually "need". Lots of money if they can afford it. Though they often are very DIFFERENT things, and often seen as utter nonsense to those who don't want them (whether racks of guns, closets full of various clothes, boats, or cars that go fast and make loud engine noises, etc.), they're all really toys and largely about social status, at the end of the day.
Whatever floats your boat, I guess. My brother in law has, literally, a giant metal safe in his basement that is so heavy he's not worried about it being stolen, and part of a wall would have to be dismantled to get it out, as it won't fit through any normal door. It's full of survival related stuff like lots of guns, ammo, gold and silver coins, etc, as he's been expecting doomsday re the financial system for decades.
They already raise or hunt a fair amount of food on their small farm (he hunts and my sister does most of the actual farm work, being retired). It helps them sleep better at night, just like my S&W 38 special in my bedside table and my PM's in safe deposit boxes and my investment portfolio does for me, 3 plus decades running now.
Each to their own. We're all mortal, none of us can see the future, and world leaders will choose to do things like fire up wars, or not, regardless of how the little people choose to live.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
by theluckycountry » Thu 24 Feb 2022, 18:16:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'S')orry to hear that. We liveaboard. But feel safer here.
That was a joke, it's the standard response one would give to authority if they ever came knocking on your door looking for your gold.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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by theluckycountry » Mon 26 Dec 2022, 17:39:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('klausfelix', '
')I think it's a bad investment strategy. Funny money is here to stay for the most part. Energy is the place to invest at least for now.
I'll disregard gold as an investment when women stop demanding it as jewelry and industry stops using it in electronics.
As for energy, I doubt anyone who invested in the shale oil complex would agree with you there.
December 21, 2022Pioneer Natural Resources’ CEO Scott Sheffield, one of the most outspoken industry executives, has indirectly explained to the White House that shale drillers will not be drilling more and that is it. And he had an excellent reason for it...These investors have been watching for years how shale drillers burn their cash in order to turn the United States in the biggest oil producer in the world. Then they had to watch all this breakdown in 2020 with oil prices dropping below zero for the first time in history, even though the drop was a short one.https://news.yahoo.com/shale-giant-pion ... 00217.html
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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by AdamB » Mon 26 Dec 2022, 20:16:16
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')As for energy, I doubt anyone who invested in the shale oil complex would agree with you there.
December 21, 2022Pioneer Natural Resources’ CEO Scott Sheffield, one of the most outspoken industry executives, has indirectly explained to the White House that shale drillers will not be drilling more and that is it. And he had an excellent reason for it...These investors have been watching for years how shale drillers burn their cash in order to turn the United States in the biggest oil producer in the world. Then they had to watch all this breakdown in 2020 with oil prices dropping below zero for the first time in history, even though the drop was a short one.https://news.yahoo.com/shale-giant-pion ... 00217.htmlToo bad you missed the financial consequence of what Scott said, in your rush to pretend that THIS wasn't happening.
Industry to make record $200 billion this year: Deloitte
Decade of shale losses wiped out in just three yearsFigures you don't know any more about American E&P fiscal performance than you would know what to do with a twisty road on 2 wheels.
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by Outcast_Searcher » Tue 27 Dec 2022, 05:26:40
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', ' ')
They already raise or hunt a fair amount of food on their small farm (he hunts and my sister does most of the actual farm work, being retired). It helps them sleep better at night, just like my S&W 38 special in my bedside table and my PM's in safe deposit boxes and my investment portfolio does for me, 3 plus decades running now.
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Is he aware that back when they went off the gold standard the government raided all the "safe" deposit boxes and confiscated all the gold there in?
Only gold bullion, not silver. And only once, so not like that's typical. Not Numismatic gold (and with gold being expansive, lots of decent Numismatic gold doesn't have that big a premium over bullion any more, last time I checked).
And one can diversify. If things start to look REALLY dicey (far more than what causes the doomers to whine all the time around here, re perfectly ordinary events like typical recessions), I can always remove some gold from my SDB and bury some of it under a shed, in my crawlspace, under some plants in the yard, etc.
And paper gold and silver works just fine until things get really nasty as well, as an inflation hedge, etc.
I know gold bugs like to harp on the chances government agents confiscate all the bullion, but I think that's mostly a sideshow, like harping on constant economic doom for many decades running, and missing out on massive stock market gains over the decades, by letting fear trump probability and logic.
But hey, each to his own. For me, good diversification and some planning is plenty good enough.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
