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THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 16 Aug 2022, 18:28:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes that mean with the proper enzyme we could cheaply convert Ethanol into DME and vice versa?


It seems it's been looked into:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6120301528

My eyes glassed over quickly.
Did you manage to wade through it to see if they actually had something worthwhile?
Other then getting their doctorate of course.
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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby Doly » Thu 18 Aug 2022, 14:56:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')id you manage to wade through it to see if they actually had something worthwhile?


How do you define "worthwhile"?
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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 18 Aug 2022, 15:24:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')id you manage to wade through it to see if they actually had something worthwhile?


How do you define "worthwhile"?


From VT? Worthwhile is an idea thought and published by a Republicrat, designed and worked out by a Republicrat, only succeeded because Republicrats were involved and funded it, and while succeeding also managed to own the Democans because they were to lazy, stupid and honest to see what a wonderful idea it was. This would be pretty worthwhile to VT!
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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Thu 18 Aug 2022, 21:03:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')id you manage to wade through it to see if they actually had something worthwhile?


How do you define "worthwhile"?


From VT? Worthwhile is an idea thought and published by a Republicrat, designed and worked out by a Republicrat, only succeeded because Republicrats were involved and funded it, and while succeeding also managed to own the Democans because they were to lazy, stupid and honest to see what a wonderful idea it was. This would be pretty worthwhile to VT!

Could you get any sillier?
Probably not.
A worthwhile idea or invention, reguardless of who comes up with it or their political leanings, that if developed and made available on commercial scales would be found useful and superior to the status quo .
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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 18 Aug 2022, 23:50:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')id you manage to wade through it to see if they actually had something worthwhile?


How do you define "worthwhile"?


From VT? Worthwhile is an idea thought and published by a Republicrat, designed and worked out by a Republicrat, only succeeded because Republicrats were involved and funded it, and while succeeding also managed to own the Democans because they were to lazy, stupid and honest to see what a wonderful idea it was. This would be pretty worthwhile to VT!

Could you get any sillier?
Probably not.


Probably could. But that one was pretty reasonable I thought. :)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') A worthwhile idea or invention, reguardless of who comes up with it or their political leanings, that if developed and made available on commercial scales would be found useful and superior to the status quo .

Sure.

...and if a Democan did it...VT will find a way to give credit to a Republicrat..... :)
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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 19 Aug 2022, 16:34:33

If the USA were serious about Ethanol as a fuel substitute then way back in 2001 the government would have passed a regulation that all ICE vehicles from 2003 model year on would be E-70 compliant. The consumer cost for this fleet wide regulatory change would be on the close order of $70.00 to the base price of all vehicles, a number so small it disappears in the other numbers involved as inconsequential.

Brazil has had this requirement for all vehicles sold in Brazil for decades. Nobody in Brazil is incapable of buying a vehicle they would have bought otherwise as a result. Anyone in Brazil pulling up to a fueling station has a spectrum of fuel choices from E-0 to E-70 and they pick and choose based on price and individual desires.

The fact that the USA does NOT have this regulation is all the proof anyone should ever need that Ethanol fuel is not a significant priority for our government.
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Re: THE Ethanol Thread pt 3

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 19 Aug 2022, 18:41:22

Ethanol in the USA is a political tool where politicians try to win the favor of Iowa voters as a start to their presidential campaigns. The science has nothing to do with it.
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