[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')
You're only considering surgical abortions.

Those days are long gone, except for rare cases with complications.

The abortion pill has been available in the USA for about 20 years.

This pill is available over the internet and this will safely and reliably produce an abortion in the vast majority of women.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')
I have always felt the pro-life movement made a mistake by focusing on punishments instead of persuasion.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JuanP', 'T')here is a reason they didn't have those rights before. Those rights are a consequence of the abundance of energy and other resources available, IMO. As resources become increasingly scarce so will rights, not just for women, but for everyone.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ') They are as extreme on their side as the pro choicers on the other that want due date partial birth abortions legal.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', '
') The main focus should have been free birth control.

[jato0072]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat the Constitution says is that the state cannot establish a state religion.

[Newfie]

Ethical Humanism is a godless religion.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')
The Ethical movement, also referred to as the Ethical Culture movement, Ethical Humanism or simply Ethical Culture, is an ethical, educational, and religious movement that is usually traced back to Felix Adler (1851–1933).[2] Individual chapter organizations are generically referred to as "Ethical Societies", though their names may include "Ethical Society", "Ethical Culture Society", "Society for Ethical Culture", "Ethical Humanist Society", or other variations on the theme of "Ethical".

Ethical movement
Ethical Culture symbol.jpg
The Ethical Human logo of the Ethical Culture/Ethical Humanist movement, its most widely used symbol
Scripture
None
Headquarters
New York City
Founder
Felix Adler
Origin
1877
Congregations
about 30
Number of followers
Less than 10,000 (2014)[1]
Official website
www.aeu.org
The Ethical movement is an outgrowth of secular moral traditions in the 19th century, principally in Europe and the United States. While some in this movement went on to organize for a secular humanist movement, others attempted to build a secular moral movement that was emphatically "religious" in its approach to developing humanist ethical codes, in the sense of encouraging congregational structures and religious rites and practices. While in the United States, these movements formed as separate education organizations (the American Humanist Association and the American Ethical Union), the American Ethical Union's British equivalents, the South Place Ethical Society and the British Ethical Union consciously moved away from a congregational model to become Conway Hall and Humanists UK respectively. Subsequent "godless" congregational movements include the Sunday Assembly, whose London chapter has used Conway Hall as a venue since 2013.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')
Once again, IMHO the court should rule abortion is a matter of religious beliefs and therefore neither the Federal or States can rule on it

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') At what point during a gestation does the fetus have the right to life?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') At what point during a gestation does the fetus have the right to life?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') The whole issue is full of thorny moral and ethical questions with few answers that all can agree to.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', ' ')
Once again, IMHO the court should rule abortion is a matter of religious beliefs and therefore neither the Federal or States can rule on it

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') At what point during a gestation does the fetus have the right to life?

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')
Once again, IMHO the court should rule abortion is a matter of religious beliefs and therefore neither the Federal or States can rule on it

[Newfie]

Carinke,

I have seen something of this in my personal life. A very different effect but a hormonal effect none the less.

Yet I think these kinds of things are very rare. And it is hard to see how any legislation would have positively effected that tragic story.

More to the point, I have never ever met or heard of a lady who gets pregnant just so she can have an abortion. There are a wide variety of measures to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. And many of those measures are common sense and may require but small compromise.

Yet few are working on the problem of unwanted pregnancies while untold hoards are screaming maniacally about their extreme position.

The problem is not abortion, or guns, or whatever. The problem is our human desire to have a good God damn roll in the mud fist fight, with teeth knocked out.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')It leads me to wonder how many late term abortions may be caused by out of control hormone imbalances, or maybe even a fight with the father.

[vtsnowedin]

Two more decisions released today. West Virginia wins vs the EPA and federal agencies can't just make up rules the congress has not authorized them to do.
The Biden administration wins in their effort to end Trumps stay in Mexico policy with the court saying it is within the duties and powers of the executive branch.
So the court as it now is configured does not just rubber stamp Republican policies but calls balls and strikes as they see them coming over the home plate of the constitution.

[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')It leads me to wonder how many late term abortions may be caused by out of control hormone imbalances, or maybe even a fight with the father.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'T')wo more decisions released today. West Virginia wins vs the EPA and federal agencies can't just make up rules the congress has not authorized them to do.
The Biden administration wins in their effort to end Trumps stay in Mexico policy with the court saying it is within the duties and powers of the executive branch.
So the court as it now is configured does not just rubber stamp Republican policies but calls balls and strikes as they see them coming over the home plate of the constitution.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', '
')
So, a Democratic President is just a figurehead. The agencies with expertise must await the decision from Congress before they can CHANGE anything, basically. Of course, we all know that Congress rarely decides anything.