[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'V')T,

You expect life without discomfort?

How do you evaluate discomfort?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')The MAGA enthusiast in you maybe,

[evilgenius]

I was out there on the front lines, yesterday, with my signs. I was protesting for a woman's right to choose in my local area. I stood by the side of one of our local roundabouts. I held a sign that said, "6-3 = Rape by Committee," on one side, and "If women don't have rights then no one has rights," on the other. A lot of people cheered us on, there being a couple hundred of us. People were good.

[vtsnowedin]

I think it is a bit early for protests. It is just a leak after all, and maybe a trial balloon sent out to gauge public opinion or stir up the frenzy you are participating in.
I thought Manchin's no vote and his explanation for it was correct. The bill Schumer put forward goes far left of Roe.V Wade and Manchin will not go that far. Why they don't listen to Manchin beforehand and go with what he clearly said he would vote for is beyond me.
The majority of the public is not at one extreme or the other. A bill that passes will have to be a bit left of center not at AOC's extreme left position.

[Newfie]

Why not put out a Munchin approved bill?

They do not want a solution, they want a flag to rally round. AH’s.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'I') was out there on the front lines, yesterday, with my signs. I was protesting for a woman's right to choose in my local area. I stood by the side of one of our local roundabouts. I held a sign that said, "6-3 = Rape by Committee," on one side, and "If women don't have rights then no one has rights," on the other. A lot of people cheered us on, there being a couple hundred of us. People were good.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'I') think it is a bit early for protests. It is just a leak after all, and maybe a trial balloon sent out to gauge public opinion or stir up the frenzy you are participating in.

[jedrider]

Not sure what all this arguing is about, but just an observation:

1. It looks like the SC vote tally is already in. They sometimes change their minds over legal arguments. However, this supreme court is so ideological, that reasonable (i.e. non-fantasizing people) don't think is possible any more.

2. The arguments they arrive at may be more significant for presaging their future decisions than the particular precedent they are setting. Let's face it, any argument they provide is specious at best, considering their aim is to overthrow all 'liberal' law.

3. Clarence mentioned 'one bad apple.' I think theire are more than that: Maybe, up to 5 bad apples!

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')Then again, it could be Republicrats crossing into the promised land after half a century of gradual gerrymandering, buying all the local comunications outlets to sell whatever story is dictated, pushing first the Tea Party reorg (otherwise known as the rise of the American Taliban), followed by continued intolerance of...well....most everything not white nationalist related leading straight to the most recent sacking of the capital by the seditionists.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')Then again, it could be Republicrats crossing into the promised land after half a century of gradual gerrymandering, buying all the local comunications outlets to sell whatever story is dictated, pushing first the Tea Party reorg (otherwise known as the rise of the American Taliban), followed by continued intolerance of...well....most everything not white nationalist related leading straight to the most recent sacking of the capital by the seditionists.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', ' ')Clearly, we don't have a 'left' media,

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', ' ')Clearly, we don't have a 'left' media,

[vtsnowedin]

Left leaning media:
MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, The NY times, The Washington Post, Facebook. Google, Twitter, Boston Globe (one newspaper from every metro area), .... Shall I go on?

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'L')eft leaning media:
MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, The NY times, The Washington Post, Facebook. Google, Twitter, Boston Globe (one newspaper from every metro area), .... Shall I go on?

[jedrider]

I'm sorry. That's not Left versus Right. That's a battle for the center. Should I say that again. CENTER. A rather mediocre discourse is all that can be expected of that.

I would call that CONSERVATIVE versus LIBERAL, sociologically opposite sentiments, but both firmly playing the same game.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'I')'m sorry. That's not Left versus Right. That's a battle for the center. Should I say that again. CENTER. A rather mediocre discourse is all that can be expected of that.

I would call that CONSERVATIVE versus LIBERAL, sociologically opposite sentiments, but both firmly playing the same game.

[Newfie]

You can use Media Bias Fact Check to see where your news source lays on the political spectrum.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

They have filtered searches so can get a list of what meets what criteria.

I put in most unbiased, web only, high traffic in USA and got ONE response:
ThoughtCo.COM. And that is education topical but not news.

Then again, even this is an online source subject to its own bias, so there is that.

At least it is a start.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')Then again, it could be Republicrats crossing into the promised land after half a century of gradual gerrymandering, buying all the local comunications outlets to sell whatever story is dictated, pushing first the Tea Party reorg (otherwise known as the rise of the American Taliban), followed by continued intolerance of...well....most everything not white nationalist related leading straight to the most recent sacking of the capital by the seditionists.

[Newfie]

How about we just start thinking for ourselves, independently?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'H')ow about we just start thinking for ourselves, independently?