$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')today women still earn 16% less than men even though they are now better educated!
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New EROEI research
Re: New EROEI research
by mousepad » Mon 31 Jan 2022, 19:34:32
Just lost an AI engineer (a woman) to google. They offered her 400k/year. I couldn't match that.
Turns out that AI engineering is well paid. Turns out that a bachelor in engineering is worth more than a phd in studies of menstrual cycles in trans-genders, or studies of lesbian finger-painting's.
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Re: New EROEI research
by Pops » Tue 01 Feb 2022, 11:33:23
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', ' ')Yes, real wages became stagnant around the seventies. That's the sort of growth that counts for the average person.
But it wasn't declining growth, growth continued. Wages fell as a result of a change in the relative scarcity of labor. There was no longer any negotiating, a vast new labor force was happy to work for pennies on the dollar. The owners were simply able to take an ever increasing share.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow come that some new machines are job-killers but not others, in spite that just about every new machine is built to reduce the need for human labor
The offshoring of manufacturing did increase jobs— somewhere else. Did you see the chart of male participation I posted?
When you increase automation and productivity, and the benefit is widely shared, society becomes richer and everyone can afford little luxuries they couldn't before. More luxuries, more jobs.
When you increase productivity and only the rich benefit, only the rich benefit. They only need so many yachts. But they do need somewhere to put their money, and financial chaos ensues with bubble after bubble.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')roductivity growth isn't a useful metric for what we are discussing.
You're arguing growth is over, pretty sure continuing growth is relevant.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'h')ow come that companies don't always have the upper hand?
Labor is a commodity. Just another input. Like all commodities, scarcity equals value. In the 50's and 60s growth rates were high and so was labor demand because of a geographically limited labor force.
Modern globalization enabled by computers, containers & communication offered employers vast numbers of people with no job. Unlimited labor, so virtually free.
As well, the rise of "meritocracy" the ultimate anti-labor, anti-collective movement finished off any hope of common labor action in the US. It is all about what diploma you were able to get, screw everyone else. Laughingly, the single, educated city liberal thinks they are socialist: while the uneducated, church going, married family oriented "like-minded" republican thinks they are the individualist... it's pretty funny actually.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I'm saying that there was pressure for women to take on jobs and stay on them.
Yeah! Their husbands were laid off when jobs were offshored!
Women had long been the stay-at-home income insurance, if husband lost work the wife got a job until he got another. Didn't you ever watch Roseanne?
But once good, middle class jobs started being offshored, whether or not the husband was laid off, the family needed the extra income just to keep what they had. Seemed logical at the time, and besideds republicans promised trickle-down and democrats promised head-start. It all turned out to be a trap.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut employers weren't hiring women instead of men, they were hiring women as well as men.
Didn't you see the chart I posted showing men's declining participation?
I've laid out about all the evidence I've got. Pretty sure it's not going to change your belief so I'll quit here.
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