[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ar use isn't decreasing

[Pops]

Just a little more...

I kind of look at the LTO glut of the teens as a do-over for us. I tried hard to "collapse early" like JMG suggested but the opportunity cost of, say, growing, harvesting and threshing wheat by hand when wheat is 8¢ a pound is not just prohibitive but nonsensical. It is good as exercise, perhaps good as prep of tools, skills, etc, but a poor investment as a lifestyle.

That is what makes transition hard, eventually we as a society may be back to basics but forecasting the timeline is tough. Luckily my horizon is closer and our responsibility to offspring lower, they are grown, even grandkids are getting up there. I had offered them a chance to join us but their priorities were different. No hard feelings, we may get together on a place when they retire but I don't feel the need to have a place big enough to support everyone anymore and that's a good thing.

So again, a small efficient place where we could keep a cow and grow some calories...
or a lawn.

.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')
Catherine Austin Fitts? Is that the wife of Alex Jones?

...I know trolling seems to be an addictive habit with some people

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', ' ')I tried hard to "collapse early" like JMG suggested but the opportunity cost of, say, growing, harvesting and threshing wheat by hand when wheat is 8¢ a pound is not just prohibitive but nonsensical. It is good as exercise, perhaps good as prep of tools, skills, etc, but a poor investment as a lifestyle.
.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')Catherine Austin Fitts is a former investment banker and public official who served during the Presidency of George H.W. Bush, as United States Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Housing. She has widely written and commented on the subject of public spending and has alleged several large scale instances of government fraud.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ') The plains around me are full of farms, the hills covered in cattle, but the best part, from one who grew up in the city, is the traffic. No traffic

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')Catherine Austin Fitts is a former investment banker and public official who served during the Presidency of George H.W. Bush, as United States Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Housing. She has widely written and commented on the subject of public spending and has alleged several large scale instances of government fraud.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')emand peak is just a click-bait story, always was. I think politicians know that talking about a demand peak, green transitions and unicorn farts is better than talk about actual constraints.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')'m saying that lots of people have had an opportunity to think about peak oil and make their moves accordingly.

[jedrider]

Nobody panic yet. That will just bring down the house of cards down way faster. We're inflating the economy not because the future is grim, but because there is no future beyond some point (you just take a guess of when that will be).

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'N')obody panic yet. That will just bring down the house of cards down way faster. We're inflating the economy not because the future is grim, but because there is no future beyond some point (you just take a guess of when that will be).

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hich means Goly, she knows a hell of a lot more than you ever will, about anything lol.

[Pops]

Unfortunately trolling is what passes for discourse nowadays, Doly. Don't leave us, please.
I use the "Foe" button to more easily ignore those folks who have nothing new to say. Just click the nickname on a post of the person you want to ignore then when their account profile pops up just click "foe."

[Pops]

Just recieved the Short Term Energy Outlook for November, EIA estimates November consumption at 99.7Mb/d, 1.1Mb/d short of 2019, 4.9Mb/d more than 2020.
They guess consumption next year to avg 96Mb/d due to Omicron. On that I saw a bit in the news that it may be less deadly than Delta, that would be nice.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hich means Goly, she knows a hell of a lot more than you ever will, about anything lol.

[Pops]

This fits here

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Richard Heinberg', '[')url=https://www.postcarbon.org/the-end-of-growth-ten-years-after/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-end-of-growth-ten-years-after]The End of Growth: Ten Years After[/url] December 7, 2021

Fifty years ago the authors of the groundbreaking book The Limits to Growth showed that, in any of a series of computer-generated scenarios, world economic growth would end sometime during the 21st century. Using simple math and logic, they pointed out that growth in any material input or output cannot continue indefinitely within a finite system. Since the Earth is a finite system, the effort to perpetually grow human economies (which, by their very nature, extract resources and produce wastes) is doomed to eventual failure, leading to significant declines in resources, industrial output, food production, and population. Despite the fact that the book was a bestseller and its conclusions were well supported, world political and business leaders ignored it and persevered in their efforts to expand resource extraction, agriculture, and manufacturing.

Lots more...

[Doly]

Moderators, why aren't vaccine/virus posts on this thread moved somewhere else? They're off-topic. I appreciate some trolls believe that vaccine/virus talk is relevant to everything, but some of us still believe in topic moderation. I may have added to the confusion myself, I apologize and please move any of my off-topic posts as well.

[Tanada]

As requested the Covid OTP have been moved over to the medical thread.

wuhan-coronavirus-pt-13-t77979-400.html?1

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re you really an expert on the LTG model?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')r is World3 LTG different/improved from the original and substantially different?