by theluckycountry » Thu 12 Aug 2021, 19:20:55
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Like you said elsewhere, we need to power down now, ride a bike, and plant a garden. Save yourselves because nobody else is going to do it for you. This ship is going down and it's up to you to put on a lifejacket and find a lifeboat.
Yes, and of course I'm just quoting others, with greater vision than myself. I think it was the arch druid who said "collapse now and avoid the rush", and he got the idea from a question posed at one of his lectures I believe. But it's all common sense when you open your eyes and look around. I have a peakoil podcast from 2005 featuring Jim Kunstler, and in the question period after his talk a young woman who had invested years to become a teacher in something like Media studies at a uni asked him this.
"So you are saying that we should all just throw in the towel and pitch a teepee in the back yard? But when you have a food in both worlds it's like, what the hell, what..."
To which he answered
"Well look, it's very difficult, and what you need to do is recognize the difficulty of your position. You have in invested what, 18 years in becoming a teacher, and now your not even sure that the institutional support will be there for you. Here in the auditorium the lights are still on, if it was winter this room would be heated, so the big ship is tooting along and on course and you feel like you should stay with the ship. That's natural, but other people may be having other ideas, they may be thinking of changing professions..."
Basically what the interchange portrayed was the frog in the pot dilemma faced by many who are caught in the previous investment trap, including many Here on this forum, people who believe that "They" will think of something, or "If they only applied my pet theory" the problems of the world would go away. Well in the 15 years since that podcast the standard of living in western nations has gone markedly downhill. Retirement accounts hardly offer a return and the capital itself in them is at risk like never before. Jobs are vanishing like never before and housing and food, the basics, are getting out of reach for millions.
If those changes had have happened in a two year period I bet a lot more people would be diving into the lifeboats, what lifeboats there are left that is. Rural properties have been going up and up in price and getting scarcer and scarcer. Here in Oz most of the smaller ones are gone. And they will not be on the market again either because people have fled the cities in droves to escape the draconian lockdowns. Soon all the lifeboats will have floated away and the people in the titanic, the cities, will be stuck on a sinking ship, stuck up a cul-de-sac in a concrete SUV without a fill-up as JHK says.
And it's not all roses and apple pie on a lifeboat either. They are dangerous places to be, they are a last desperate resort. Yet many here have been lulled by the relative peace and quiet up to date, lulled into the idea they will be happily canning tomatoes and gathering eggs while millions of people just down the highway starve to death. It wont be that way.
https://kunstler.com/other-stuff/petroc ... w-york-ny/ I can't find the MP3 online unfortunately but this is JHK talk transcript.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.