[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'c')ock suckers....

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'M')oderate Republicans are going to become Democrats before long. There goes the neighborhood!

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')
Maybe Rs will never catch on that they are the suckers being played while the owners eat their lunch or maybe they like to be owned
.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '.').. the R Party keeping their constituents stupid and uneducated has allowed them to maintain their status

[aadbrd]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')...its the D party
...its the D party

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aadbrd', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')...its the D party
...its the D party

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aadbrd', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')...its the D party
...its the D party

[aadbrd]

"deep wounding pain in the racist hearts of those deplorable uneducated democrats."

Come on, Newfie, this is troll-grade hyperbole from him, not an argument. I'm not going to feed the trolls by gracing that with a rebuttal. Whataboutism is about all he has to offer rather than coming to grips with the ingrown problems of the Republican party he so obviously loves.

[Newfie]

There is an awful lot of sensationalism spouted on this forum and in the news in general. I don’t like it but if we clamped down on it then there would he no one left. If you object to that kind of writing then the best thing to do is to abstain from it yourself.

Yet there are good bits of truth in many posts that contain hurtful and disingenuous arguments. And that is where the value of these conversations lies, in the good bits that get posted.

Plant may or may not love the R party, why don’t you ask him?

And there is truth that the D party has complete control of major cities, the top 9 if not 10. Chicago and Philly have been one party strongholds for decades. Yet these cities have terrible track records for corruption and social services.

I see no reasonable way to blame these failures on the R party or anyone else other than the D’s. Sure you can find some points where the R’s have not helped. But if the D party had any better ideas they have not shown them.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', ' ')

And there is truth that the D party has complete control of major cities, the top 9 if not 10. Chicago and Philly have been one party strongholds for decades. Yet these cities have terrible track records for corruption and social services.

I see no reasonable way to blame these failures on the R party or anyone else other than the D’s. Sure you can find some points where the R’s have not helped. But if the D party had any better ideas they have not shown them.

[jedrider]

It seems to me that the Republicans are controlling the narrative and have been since Ronald Reagan (or before if one wants to include racial equality). Is this not true (asking to our Republicans friends on this site)?

Democrats are merely applying the brakes to Republican rhetoric and almost no more. Democrats are controlled by not making huge gaffs, while Republicans focus on, mostly artificial, wedge issues. Is this not true?

It's disingenuous to blame one party for the other party's shortcomings. The inner city is not a party BTW. You cannot blame the inner city on either party alone.

So where am I on this? It's the REPUBLICAN thread. Stop blaming Democrats and diverting the conversation.

We, in Democrat land, are basically waiting for Republicans to self-destruct. I don't know if that is fanciful or not, but in the mean time:
Democrats are trying to govern, however imperfect.

I think that Republicans could have owned this country except for their extremism. It is this extremism that is keeping the Democrats afloat currently. I don't see that abating. Republicans did lose on the last round, but the margin was slim.

Is going more extreme going to rescue the Republicans? As I said, they are controlling the narrative to a large extent. However, the Democrats now seem to be creating their own narrative: Bail out the middle class rather than the upper class! Republicans are concentrating on bailing out the mindset of the middle class, but not their economics.

Stay tuned.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')here is an awful lot of sensationalism spouted on this forum and in the news in general. I don’t like it but if we clamped down on it then there would he no one left. If you object to that kind of writing then the best thing to do is to abstain from it yourself.

[Newfie]

So by that logic:

Bill Gates is the most corrupt person in the world.

And the penniless gang bangers are saints.

[aadbrd]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')Plant may or may not love the R party, why don’t you ask him?

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'S')o by that logic:

Bill Gates is the most corrupt person in the world.

And the penniless gang bangers are saints.

[jedrider]

+1 Pops
-1 Newfie

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', ' ')Guns, God and trickle down don't fix real world problems like crumbling infrastructure, traffic congestion, poverty, homelessness and crime.

[Newfie]

Pops wrote

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')
I thought the point was obvious,
a) Corruption is ubiquitous
b) Big cities have big problems
c) They make the news

[jedrider]

So, Newfie, no comment on Liz Cheney?

Liz Cheney Helped Create Donald Trump’s GOP
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/liz-cheney-republican-party-create_n_609579c7e4b0f73e530d4b2e

That says volumes of your purpose (and Plant's, too) to stoke doubt on Democrats whilst never having any introspection on Republicans
ON A REPUBLICAN THREAD!

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'S')o.... no comment on Liz Cheney?

That says volumes of your purpose (and Plant's, too) to stoke doubt on Democrats whilst never having any introspection on Republicans
ON A REPUBLICAN THREAD!