[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')For what I know natives of PNG were running something resembling democracy before they were contacted first time in 1930-thies.
It was not very advanced but democratic features were predominant.

[jedrider]

The PNG tribes look like Republican wannabes: The one on the right brandishing the flag pole looks ready to storm the U.S. Capitol. They're acting tribal and seem ready to shoot (or eat) their opponent just for being of the wrong tribe.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'T')he PNG tribes look like Republican wannabes: The one on the right brandishing the flag pole looks ready to storm the U.S. Capitol. They're acting tribal and seem ready to shoot (or eat) their opponent just for being of the wrong tribe.

[JuanP]

"Derek Chauvin guilty of murder in death of George Floyd"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/derek ... d=msedgntp

I think the world is better off without George Floyd, who, IMO, was a dangerous and violent criminal who didn't deserve to live because of what he had done to that old lady into whose house he had broken into a while back, but I am very glad that DC was convicted of murder; what DC did to GF was brutal and inhuman, and I think the punishment fits the crime.

[aadbrd]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JuanP', '
')George Floyd, who, IMO, was a dangerous and violent criminal who didn't deserve to live

[Ibon]

This was priceless comment from Tucker Carlson

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter a jury convicted former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin of murder and manslaughter on Tuesday in the death of George Floyd, Fox News host Tucker Carlson suggested they weren’t swayed by the testimony of more than three dozen witnesses or visceral video of Floyd pleading, “I can’t breathe.”

Instead, Carlson argued, the jurors were intimidated into the guilty verdict by the months of racial justice protests that followed Floyd’s death.

“The jurors in the Derek Chauvin trial came to a unanimous and unequivocal verdict this afternoon: ‘Please don’t hurt us,’” Carlson said on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

Carlson added, “Everyone understood perfectly well the consequences of an acquittal in this case. After nearly a year of burning and looting and murder by BLM, that was never in doubt.”

[jedrider]

The Long, Painful History of Police Brutality in the U.S.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/long-painful-history-police-brutality-in-the-us-180964098/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.').. a reminder of the continuous oppression and violence that has disproportionately shaken black communities for generations

[aadbrd]

More appropriately, it's the silence of moderates that allow radicalization to metastasize. You will not see radicals on either side shift towards the center based on the insults and invective hurled by either side. Polarization makes people lose sight of what the center looks like. Instead you simply have black and white notions of right and wrong, constant purity-tests, and all ends justify the means.

The reason why the riots and looting argument is so effective is because the left were so reluctant to push back on those riots for fear of looking unsuitably woke and anti-racist. "Mostly peaceful protests" became a punch-line. This is also why the right evoked BLM in their whataboutism excuse about January the 6th. Both sides at some level recognize where the OTHER side crosses the line but neither seems willing to reign in their own radicals.

Net result is it's a race to the bottom.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'T')his was priceless comment from Tucker Carlson
After a jury convicted former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin of murder and manslaughter on Tuesday in the death of George Floyd, Fox News host Tucker Carlson suggested they weren’t swayed by the testimony of more than three dozen witnesses or visceral video of Floyd pleading, “I can’t breathe.”
Instead, Carlson argued, the jurors were intimidated into the guilty verdict by the months of racial justice protests that followed Floyd’s death.
“The jurors in the Derek Chauvin trial came to a unanimous and unequivocal verdict this afternoon: ‘Please don’t hurt us,’” Carlson said on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”
Carlson added, “Everyone understood perfectly well the consequences of an acquittal in this case. After nearly a year of burning and looting and murder by BLM, that was never in doubt.”....If this is the media koolaid Fox viewers.....

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', ' ') And finally (6) Joe Biden himself stupidly demanded he jury find Chauvin guilty before the jury was sequestered, prejudicing the jury against Chauvin once again.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', ' ') And finally (6) Joe Biden himself stupidly demanded he jury find Chauvin guilty ......, prejudicing the jury against Chauvin once again.

[Plantagenet]

Oh-oh. One of the jurors at the Chauvin trail lied to get on the jury. He claimed he'd never been at a George Floyd demo and he had no opinion on the case.....but he is actually a BLM activist. New photos have emerged of him at a George Floyd demo, wearing a George Floyd T-shirt. And the demo was in DC, so he had to travel a thousand miles to get that demo.

undisclosed-bias-even-wapo-questions-impartiality-blm-shirt-wearing-juror-chauvin-case]

The revelation that a BLM activist lied to get on the jury panel so he could convict Chauvin provides more grounds to appeal for Chauvin.

On the bright side, flawed as the trial was----at least they avoided another huge riot and didn't have more of the crazy leftist antifa/BLM arson attacks and looting in Minneapolis.


Oh-oh. One of the jurors who convicted Chauvin has been exposed as a BLM activist who lied to get on the jury panel

SHEESH!

[Plantagenet]

As I predicted, Chauvin has filed a motion to throw out his conviction for murdering George Floyd.

The reasons? I discussed them all above in a series of posts over the last few days when I made my prediction and again yesterday when I was rebutting Outcast Searcher's silly objection to my prediction.

I take no pleasure in being right on this prediction but it was easy to see from the very start that there were going to be serious difficulties in giving Chauvin a fair trial in Minneapolis.

We'll just have to see how this plays out from here.

If a judge grants the request for a mistrial Chauvin's convictions would be set aside. That could happen quickly, or it might take awhile. If the first appeal is turned down Chauvin will likely appeal to higher courts until the convictions are set aside.

That will likely trigger off more riots and arson and looting by the criminal element in BLM/antifa in Minneapolis.

Hopefully this time the wimpy D mayor of Minneapolis won't tell the police to stand down, and hopefully this time they will arrest and prosecute all the thieves and arsonists.

And then, when the riots are over the state AG will attempt to try Chauvin again.


It gives me no pleasure to be right on this, but I am proven right again when I predicted that Chauvin would file for a mistrial.

Cheers!

[Newfie]

I have to agree with Plant on this, even if he is overstating the case a bit.

As far as I can see there was overwhelming evidence that the guy was murdered.

There was no good reason for the various public officials to incite crowds or for Biden to chime in with his very untimely comments. The possibility exists that the verdict will he thrown out and a retrial. I suppose there is a remote possibility that Chauvin could walk because of this outside influence.

This is not about some extremist who think Chauvin is innocent. It is about some extremist who are using the situation to w themselves and their agenda. Biden did nothing to help the situation by shooting his mouth off. That was a selfish act to boost his esteem by pandering.

[Ibon]

white fragility is alive and well here at po.com

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'w')hite fragility is alive and well here at po.com

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') have to agree with Plant on this, even if he is overstating the case a bit.

As far as I can see there was overwhelming evidence that the guy was murdered.

There was no good reason for the various public officials to incite crowds or for Biden to chime in with his very untimely comments. The possibility exists that the verdict will he thrown out and a retrial. I suppose there is a remote possibility that Chauvin could walk because of this outside influence.

This is not about some extremist who think Chauvin is innocent. It is about some extremist who are using the situation to w themselves and their agenda. Biden did nothing to help the situation by shooting his mouth off. That was a selfish act to boost his esteem by pandering.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') have to agree with Plant on this, even if he is overstating the case a bit.

As far as I can see there was overwhelming evidence that the guy was murdered.

There was no good reason for the various public officials to incite crowds or for Biden to chime in with his very untimely comments. The possibility exists that the verdict will he thrown out and a retrial. I suppose there is a remote possibility that Chauvin could walk because of this outside influence.

This is not about some extremist who think Chauvin is innocent. It is about some extremist who are using the situation to w themselves and their agenda. Biden did nothing to help the situation by shooting his mouth off. That was a selfish act to boost his esteem by pandering.

[Newfie]

Ibon,

Your statements, they don’t rise to the level of arguments, demonstrate clearly what old white whining men don't understand racism and bigotry sound like.


big·ot·ry
/ˈbiɡətrē/
noun
noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries
obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
"the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"



rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
noun: racism
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
"a program to combat racism"
Similar:
racial discrimination
racialism
racial prejudice/bigotry
xenophobia
chauvinism
bigotry
bias
intolerance
anti-Semitism
apartheid
the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
"theories of racism"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tself.html

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... us-emotion


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')37]

Shame campaign Edit
A shame campaign is a tactic in which particular individuals are singled out because of their behavior or suspected crimes, often by marking them publicly, such as Hester Prynne in Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter. In the Philippines, Alfredo Lim popularized such tactics during his term as mayor of Manila. On July 1, 1997, he began a controversial "spray paint shame campaign" in an effort to stop drug use. He and his team sprayed bright red paint on two hundred squatter houses whose residents had been charged, but not yet convicted, of selling prohibited substances. Officials of other municipalities followed suit. Former Senator Rene A. Saguisag condemned Lim's policy.[40] Communists in the 20th century used struggle sessions to handle corruption and other problems.[41]

Public humiliation, historically expressed by confinement in stocks and in other public punishments may occur in social media through viral phenomena.[42]

[Ibon]

I miss Dohboi.

Somebody posted once or referred to some article that if you would magically remove all the liberals or all the conservatives those remaining would eventually split off and fill the void and you would be back where you were.

Dohboi left. Somebody had to represent his position regarding white supremacy, racism and pointing out how fragile many of those older white males are in how they nurture their racism often without even seeing it.

So I am here to fill a bit the void that Dohboi left.