[dcoyne78]

Pops,

Thanks for the reply.

At current oil prices, TCO for Tesla Model 3 standard Range+ and a Toyota Camry similarly equipped are quite similar. As prices for batteries (and EVs fall) and oil prices increase EVs will have a lower TCO than ICEVs, eventually people will wake up to this fact as well as charging infrastructure being built out over time. By 2025 EV sales will likely be 40% or more of new vehicle sales and by 2030 it will likely be around 95% (OECD nations and most middle income nations). Even though it will take another 12 to 15 years to replace most of the ICEV fleet, probably 75% or more of vehicle miles travelled are in newer vehicles (5 years old or less).

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'I')n 2006, the IEA stated in one feature that peak oil won't take place for around three decades, that any lack of supply will be due to above-ground problems, and that by 2015 world demand would reach around 115 Mbd thanks to robust economic growth, and that oil producers would easily meet it.

[OutcastPhilosopher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dcoyne78', 'P')ops,

Thanks for the reply.

At current oil prices, TCO for Tesla Model 3 standard Range+ and a Toyota Camry similarly equipped are quite similar. As prices for batteries (and EVs fall) and oil prices increase EVs will have a lower TCO than ICEVs, eventually people will wake up to this fact as well as charging infrastructure being built out over time. By 2025 EV sales will likely be 40% or more of new vehicle sales and by 2030 it will likely be around 95% (OECD nations and most middle income nations). Even though it will take another 12 to 15 years to replace most of the ICEV fleet, probably 75% or more of vehicle miles travelled are in newer vehicles (5 years old or less).

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutcastPhilosopher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dcoyne78', 'P')ops,

Thanks for the reply.

At current oil prices, TCO for Tesla Model 3 standard Range+ and a Toyota Camry similarly equipped are quite similar. As prices for batteries (and EVs fall) and oil prices increase EVs will have a lower TCO than ICEVs, eventually people will wake up to this fact as well as charging infrastructure being built out over time. By 2025 EV sales will likely be 40% or more of new vehicle sales and by 2030 it will likely be around 95% (OECD nations and most middle income nations). Even though it will take another 12 to 15 years to replace most of the ICEV fleet, probably 75% or more of vehicle miles travelled are in newer vehicles (5 years old or less).

[OutcastPhilosopher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutcastPhilosopher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dcoyne78', 'P')ops,

Thanks for the reply.

At current oil prices, TCO for Tesla Model 3 standard Range+ and a Toyota Camry similarly equipped are quite similar. As prices for batteries (and EVs fall) and oil prices increase EVs will have a lower TCO than ICEVs, eventually people will wake up to this fact as well as charging infrastructure being built out over time. By 2025 EV sales will likely be 40% or more of new vehicle sales and by 2030 it will likely be around 95% (OECD nations and most middle income nations). Even though it will take another 12 to 15 years to replace most of the ICEV fleet, probably 75% or more of vehicle miles travelled are in newer vehicles (5 years old or less).

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutcastPhilosopher', '
')What do you morons think is happening with all the current stimulus? It is being LOOTED.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutcastPhilosopher', '
')Ibon and the other retards....we are entering into the leg of the greatest depression. The US is being systematically destructed and the implosion is imminent....

We are about to have a Soviet Union style collapse

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dcoyne78', 'P')ops,

Thanks for the reply.

At current oil prices, TCO for Tesla Model 3 standard Range+ and a Toyota Camry similarly equipped are quite similar. As prices for batteries (and EVs fall) and oil prices increase EVs will have a lower TCO than ICEVs, eventually people will wake up to this fact as well as charging infrastructure being built out over time. By 2025 EV sales will likely be 40% or more of new vehicle sales and by 2030 it will likely be around 95% (OECD nations and most middle income nations). Even though it will take another 12 to 15 years to replace most of the ICEV fleet, probably 75% or more of vehicle miles travelled are in newer vehicles (5 years old or less).

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dcoyne78', 'P')ops,

Thanks for the reply.

At current oil prices, TCO for Tesla Model 3 standard Range+ and a Toyota Camry similarly equipped are quite similar. As prices for batteries (and EVs fall) and oil prices increase EVs will have a lower TCO than ICEVs, eventually people will wake up to this fact as well as charging infrastructure being built out over time. By 2025 EV sales will likely be 40% or more of new vehicle sales and by 2030 it will likely be around 95% (OECD nations and most middle income nations). Even though it will take another 12 to 15 years to replace most of the ICEV fleet, probably 75% or more of vehicle miles travelled are in newer vehicles (5 years old or less).

[Ibon]

I am waiting for a 4 seater electric off road 4x4 that we can charge at night with our micro hydro. I need this vehicle because of all those aging baby boomer eco tourist consumers that fly in their airplanes to come down and see the quetzals and bellbirds. Many of them arrive with limited mobility due to knee and hip replacements but they still demand to get into the cloud forest to see the birds. As long as they keep coming and dropping $ 200 a night they are an integral part still of our economic sustainability. The quiet electric hum of an off road 4x4 powered by our hydro will move silently through the forest so we can sneak up on tapirs and jaguars.

[Armageddon]

Is shale collapsing? Down 1.9 mbpd from its highs?

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I')s shale collapsing? Down 1.9 mbpd from its highs?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I')s shale collapsing? Down 1.9 mbpd from its highs?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') am waiting for a 4 seater electric off road 4x4 that we can charge at night with our micro hydro. I need this vehicle because of all those aging baby boomer eco tourist consumers that fly in their airplanes to come down and see the quetzals and bellbirds. Many of them arrive with limited mobility due to knee and hip replacements but they still demand to get into the cloud forest to see the birds. As long as they keep coming and dropping $ 200 a night they are an integral part still of our economic sustainability. The quiet electric hum of an off road 4x4 powered by our hydro will move silently through the forest so we can sneak up on tapirs and jaguars.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') am waiting for a 4 seater electric off road 4x4 that we can charge at night with our micro hydro. I need this vehicle because of all those aging baby boomer eco tourist consumers that fly in their airplanes to come down and see the quetzals and bellbirds. Many of them arrive with limited mobility due to knee and hip replacements but they still demand to get into the cloud forest to see the birds. As long as they keep coming and dropping $ 200 a night they are an integral part still of our economic sustainability. The quiet electric hum of an off road 4x4 powered by our hydro will move silently through the forest so we can sneak up on tapirs and jaguars.

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'A')dding solar would require panels, inverters, batteries and tying this into our existing system, not any different than when you tie solar into an existing grid. But the amount of hardware to just add a couple additional KW of intermittent power? no thanks! More important, there is also something very rewarding about taking this finite amount of hydro power and making due with what you have instead of scheming how to generate more, more, more power....

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('REAL Green', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'A')dding solar would require panels, inverters, batteries and tying this into our existing system, not any different than when you tie solar into an existing grid. But the amount of hardware to just add a couple additional KW of intermittent power? no thanks! More important, there is also something very rewarding about taking this finite amount of hydro power and making due with what you have instead of scheming how to generate more, more, more power....

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I')t is the whole DC to AC inverter issue and battery storage that dissuades me from adding solar power to our project. Our hydro system is based on a pelton wheel that spins a 220V AC generator. A governor (load controller) distributes the power between usage and dump. 8 kilowatt 24/7, no batteries, no inverters. The design is eloquent in its simplicity.

Adding solar would require panels, inverters, batteries and tying this into our existing system, not any different than when you tie solar into an existing grid. But the amount of hardware to just add a couple additional KW of intermittent power? no thanks!

More important, there is also something very rewarding about taking this finite amount of hydro power and making due with what you have instead of scheming how to generate more, more, more power....

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', ' ')Actually based on your description you do not capture the entire flow of the stream so you could probably add additional hydro capacity as easy as any of the other suggestions.

[JuanP]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', ' ')Actually based on your description you do not capture the entire flow of the stream so you could probably add additional hydro capacity as easy as any of the other suggestions.