Poor Lives Matter. At least I have not heard about it yet.
I think the corona lockdowns and so on are the worst racism at all.
There was a talkshow (Anne Will) on German TV lately where a guest (Nida Rumelin) mentioned that the Government's corona restrictions like lockdowns are the reason why around 30 million people in poor countries will starve to death. Small business going broke, supply chains destroyed, no medical supplies and so on.
I was shocked. Most others were not.
The UN states even a higher number: 135 million deaths in poor countries as consequence of corona restrictions worldwide.
That is what I call extreme racism: Doing everything to save (a comparably small number of) people in the Western countries, and passing over with a shrug death and destruction in the third world.
Where are the activists?
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Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
by Karle » Fri 18 Dec 2020, 11:27:24
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Re: Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
by Ibon » Fri 18 Dec 2020, 11:39:27
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Karle', 'P')oor Lives Matter. At least I have not heard about it yet.
I think the corona lockdowns and so on are the worst racism at all.
There was a talkshow (Anne Will) on German TV lately where a guest (Nida Rumelin) mentioned that the Government's corona restrictions like lockdowns are the reason why around 30 million people in poor countries will starve to death. Small business going broke, supply chains destroyed, no medical supplies and so on.
I was shocked. Most others were not.
The UN states even a higher number: 135 million deaths in poor countries as consequence of corona restrictions worldwide.
That is what I call extreme racism: Doing everything to save (a comparably small number of) people in the Western countries, and passing over with a shrug death and destruction in the third world.
Where are the activists?
I think the corona lockdowns and so on are the worst racism at all.
There was a talkshow (Anne Will) on German TV lately where a guest (Nida Rumelin) mentioned that the Government's corona restrictions like lockdowns are the reason why around 30 million people in poor countries will starve to death. Small business going broke, supply chains destroyed, no medical supplies and so on.
I was shocked. Most others were not.
The UN states even a higher number: 135 million deaths in poor countries as consequence of corona restrictions worldwide.
That is what I call extreme racism: Doing everything to save (a comparably small number of) people in the Western countries, and passing over with a shrug death and destruction in the third world.
Where are the activists?
It is elitism not racism. We are overdo for the poor and working class to unite against this common enemy of a growing 2 class society. The way you do that is to bring under one roof all the movements that are today often split on opposite sides of the political divide. Being US centric here for a moment, The BLM movement on the left has a counter part in the poor rural white population who are suffering from drug addiction and disenfranchisement. Both groups have suffered from the elitism that rewards the rich and allows the disparity to grow.
The challenge is for a leader or party or movement to emerge that can bring these groups under 1 roof. First is to practice this inclusiveness. So for example, instead of saying ALl Lives Matter or Poor Lives Matter as apposed to Black Lives Matter you acknowledge the plight of the BLM movement but expand the tent by inviting more in. Not a binary choice of BLM vs PLM but acknowledging all of the disenfranchised as valid. WE are so conditioned to think in binary terms that it is sometimes hard to practice being inclusive.
Your post asks a good question. The solution is not easy but it is possible.
I am predicting that as old calcified baby boomers die off that the generation that replaces them, those who have been exposed to greater diversity and who have also tasted the first bitter pills of the growing disparity of wealth and the rise of elitism, that they will address this question your raise more effectively than the generation currently in power.
Alot of obsolete baby boomers have to die first. Time is a better agent to do this then Covid19 . hahaha
Also remember that as the disparity between the have and have nots grow this in itself creates an unsupportable status quo. The very elite are trying everything to harness this instability by keeping the disenfranchised on opposite sides fighting each other. The solution is a movement that can expose this and unify the working class and the poor.
Do not misinterpret what I am saying as an advocation of socialism and the working class rising in some Marxist wet dream. That is exactly how the current baby boomers want to peg everything into binary extremes. Addressing the inequity of the poor and working class is not an endorsement of socialism but it does include a robust set of social, financial and political reforms. My generation (I am 64 years old) is not capable of this unfortunately.
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Re: Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
by JuanP » Fri 18 Dec 2020, 14:38:40
What a great question! The answer to me is very simple. There is no Poor Lives Matter because that would make a lot of sense, and most humans don't do things that make sense most of the time. Doing things that make sense goes against human nature. Why don't people breed sustainably? Same reason! Why don't people stop consuming things they don't need? Same reason again. Why don't people stop destroying the only known biosphere in this universe that can support our species? Can you guess the answer by now? 
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Re: Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
by dissident » Sat 19 Dec 2020, 23:01:24
People who pointed out that all lives matter were murdered for their statements. You are dealing with zealot lunatics using some token moral hook to get their way. All those public personalities who engaged in apologia for these lunatics by making assertions such as "that's not the point" are scumbags.
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Re: Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
by yellowcanoe » Sat 19 Dec 2020, 23:47:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Karle', 'P')oor Lives Matter. At least I have not heard about it yet.
I think the corona lockdowns and so on are the worst racism at all.
There was a talkshow (Anne Will) on German TV lately where a guest (Nida Rumelin) mentioned that the Government's corona restrictions like lockdowns are the reason why around 30 million people in poor countries will starve to death. Small business going broke, supply chains destroyed, no medical supplies and so on.
I was shocked. Most others were not.
The UN states even a higher number: 135 million deaths in poor countries as consequence of corona restrictions worldwide.
That is what I call extreme racism: Doing everything to save (a comparably small number of) people in the Western countries, and passing over with a shrug death and destruction in the third world.
Where are the activists?
I think the corona lockdowns and so on are the worst racism at all.
There was a talkshow (Anne Will) on German TV lately where a guest (Nida Rumelin) mentioned that the Government's corona restrictions like lockdowns are the reason why around 30 million people in poor countries will starve to death. Small business going broke, supply chains destroyed, no medical supplies and so on.
I was shocked. Most others were not.
The UN states even a higher number: 135 million deaths in poor countries as consequence of corona restrictions worldwide.
That is what I call extreme racism: Doing everything to save (a comparably small number of) people in the Western countries, and passing over with a shrug death and destruction in the third world.
Where are the activists?
Activists in Western countries are fixated on the idea of moving refugees and poor people from third world countries to first world countries. Unfortunately the need far outweighs the ability of first world countries to absorb migrants. A few years back your country at the height of the Syrian refugee crisis took in 1 million migrants -- an extremely generous decision as absorbing so many migrants in such a short time period placed a great strain on the country. However, it really didn't have any impact on the overall number of refugees in the world. My recollection at the time is that the United Nations High Commission for Refugees was dealing with roughly 60 million refugees. That number has continued to grow despite the efforts of first world countries to sponsor more refugees and UNHCR now report that they are dealing with 80 million refugees.
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Re: Why is there no PLM activism (Poor Lives Matter)?
by Tanada » Sun 20 Dec 2020, 00:06:25
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'P')eople who pointed out that all lives matter were murdered for their statements. You are dealing with zealot lunatics using some token moral hook to get their way. All those public personalities who engaged in apologia for these lunatics by making assertions such as "that's not the point" are scumbags.
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