[REAL Green]

“Utility Global Comes Out With Bold Claims for Cheaper, Cleaner ‘Blue’ Hydrogen”
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles ... r-hydrogen

“Utility Global, a Utah-based startup focused on solid oxide electrolyzer technology, claims to have received investment offers from oil majors after coming up with what it calls a hydrogen breakthrough. The innovation is a new solid oxide electrochemical reactor design that Utility Global, a spinout from Utah research hub Hall Labs, says can be used to deliver blue hydrogen 30 percent cheaper and with 30 percent lower carbon emissions than traditional steam methane reforming. Blue hydrogen is made from natural gas in the process of steam methane reformation, with the resulting emissions curtailed through carbon capture and storage. Blue hydrogen is one of several methods aiming to cut the carbon emissions associated with the industrial production of the gas. It is purportedly cleaner than the current industrial processes but still a long way from being zero-emission or "green" hydrogen, which is made using renewable power and electrolyzers. Like the green variety, blue hydrogen is expensive to produce compared to the traditional carbon-intensive production processes used today. By reducing blue hydrogen's costs, Utility Global's technology could speed up hydrogen's much-vaunted replacement of fossil fuels…Boiled down, “it's an efficient version of steam methane reforming that uses electrolysis to do the separation of the hydrogen rather than mechanical compressors and pressure swing adsorption [used in most blue hydrogen production processes],” Matt Dawson, Utility Global’s chief executive officer, explained in an interview. “Instead of using electricity to separate off the hydrogen from all the other components, we use heat. Heat is a cheaper resource. That’s why we can be 30 percent cheaper and 30 percent more CO2-efficient. The architecture of our electrochemical device is unique.”

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('REAL Green', '�')��Utility Global Comes Out With Bold Claims for Cheaper, Cleaner ‘Blue’ Hydrogen”
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles ... r-hydrogen

“Utility Global, a Utah-based startup focused on solid oxide electrolyzer technology, claims to have received investment offers from oil majors after coming up with what it calls a hydrogen breakthrough. The innovation is a new solid oxide electrochemical reactor design that Utility Global, a spinout from Utah research hub Hall Labs, says can be used to deliver blue hydrogen 30 percent cheaper and with 30 percent lower carbon emissions than traditional steam methane reforming. Blue hydrogen is made from natural gas in the process of steam methane reformation, with the resulting emissions curtailed through carbon capture and storage. Blue hydrogen is one of several methods aiming to cut the carbon emissions associated with the industrial production of the gas. It is purportedly cleaner than the current industrial processes but still a long way from being zero-emission or "green" hydrogen, which is made using renewable power and electrolyzers. Like the green variety, blue hydrogen is expensive to produce compared to the traditional carbon-intensive production processes used today. By reducing blue hydrogen's costs, Utility Global's technology could speed up hydrogen's much-vaunted replacement of fossil fuels…Boiled down, “it's an efficient version of steam methane reforming that uses electrolysis to do the separation of the hydrogen rather than mechanical compressors and pressure swing adsorption [used in most blue hydrogen production processes],” Matt Dawson, Utility Global’s chief executive officer, explained in an interview. “Instead of using electricity to separate off the hydrogen from all the other components, we use heat. Heat is a cheaper resource. That’s why we can be 30 percent cheaper and 30 percent more CO2-efficient. The architecture of our electrochemical device is unique.”

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'E')very smart producer knows the more customers you have bidding for your product or service the better you get paid for supplying their needs. Russia needs Nordstream as a fail-safe in case supplying China falls through for any of a number of reasons.

[REAL Green]

“The One Big Problem With Green Hydrogen”
https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy ... rogen.html

“To date, green hydrogen costs between three and six times more to produce than grey or blue hydrogen, according to a senior analyst from Guidehouse quoted by the Wall Street Journal. That is a significant deterrent to the adoption of a technology, but the net-zero drive is changing all this. According to Guidehouse’s Dan Hahn, the cost of green hydrogen production will start going down pretty soon thanks to the investments being made in its advancement… Meanwhile, analysts seem to agree that fossil fuel costs will rise over the next decades, evening the playing field with hydrogen. Wood Mackenzie’s Gallagher, for example, expects the cost of grey hydrogen, the sort produced using coal and gas, to rise by as much as 82 percent by 2040, because of an expected increase in natural gas prices. The cost of blue hydrogen, the sort produced using natural gas combined with carbon capture and storage, is seen rising by 59 percent by 2040, again because of rising natural gas prices. It seems the competitiveness of green hydrogen relies heavily on natural gas prices. If prices do not rise as analysts expect them to, this competitiveness may be compromised, no matter how many billions of energy companies invest in the technology. On the other hand, with the cost of renewable electricity also falling, the cost of producing hydrogen using solar and wind could continue to decline steadily, especially when factoring in excess energy produced by solar and wind farms.”

[JuanP]

"Norway based DNV GL halts Nord Stream 2 vessel work on US sanctions"
https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/mark ... -spokesman

This is great news for me because I don't want NS2 to be finished. I want Russia to sell as little natural gas to Western Europe as possible. I want Russia to sell its gas to China and other Asian nations. Let the Europeans buy American LNG. That is what they deserve. I hope I live to see the day when Russia stops selling oil and gas to the West. Russia needs to stop supporting Europe's economy, even if it costs it some temporary income loss.

The West is coming down, and the faster that happens the better it will be for the rest of humanity.

[radon1]

Russia is selling gas to China for pennies if not at loss, because China does not need that much gas. They already have supply from the Middle Asian stans and elsewhere. Meanwhile, Russia charges their own citizens at Far East a much greater price for NG than the Chinese just across the border. It is cheaper to buy liquid NG from the US in the Russian Far East than from the Russian domestic producers.

Meanwhile, the Western Europe pays the world market prices for the Russian NG which is a multiple of the Chinese prices. So no, let the Europeans buy all the NG that they want and then some.

[JuanP]

"Nord Stream 2: Russia's energy project Donald Trump can't seem to stop"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... f=fyhEsXfZ

And the shenanigans continue!

[JuanP]

"Construction of Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to restart next month"
https://www.rt.com/business/508130-nord ... n-resumes/

"Construction on the multibillion-dollar project was abruptly halted at the end of last year, when Swiss-Dutch pipelaying firm Allseas withdrew its vessels over the threat of US sanctions. While Russia has assured its partners that it can finish the project on its own, though with a delay, Washington is still trying to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2, with the Trump administration threatening new sanctions for companies linked to it."

This is a never ending story!

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('radon1', 'R')ussia is selling gas to China for pennies if not at loss, because China does not need that much gas. They already have supply from the Middle Asian stans and elsewhere. Meanwhile, Russia charges their own citizens at Far East a much greater price for NG than the Chinese just across the border. It is cheaper to buy liquid NG from the US in the Russian Far East than from the Russian domestic producers.

Meanwhile, the Western Europe pays the world market prices for the Russian NG which is a multiple of the Chinese prices. So no, let the Europeans buy all the NG that they want and then some.

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JuanP', '[')b]"Construction of Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to restart next month"
https://www.rt.com/business/508130-nord ... n-resumes/

"Construction on the multibillion-dollar project was abruptly halted at the end of last year, when Swiss-Dutch pipelaying firm Allseas withdrew its vessels over the threat of US sanctions. While Russia has assured its partners that it can finish the project on its own, though with a delay, Washington is still trying to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2, with the Trump administration threatening new sanctions for companies linked to it."

This is a never ending story!

[JuanP]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JuanP', '[')b]"Construction of Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to restart next month"
https://www.rt.com/business/508130-nord ... n-resumes/

"Construction on the multibillion-dollar project was abruptly halted at the end of last year, when Swiss-Dutch pipelaying firm Allseas withdrew its vessels over the threat of US sanctions. While Russia has assured its partners that it can finish the project on its own, though with a delay, Washington is still trying to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2, with the Trump administration threatening new sanctions for companies linked to it."

This is a never ending story!

[jedrider]

San Jose Primed to Ban Natural Gas in Most New Buildings
https://www.kqed.org/science/1971311/san-jose-primed-to-ban-natural-gas-in-most-new-buildings

This seems to be happening in all the states that are setting aggressive climate goals.

My house uses natural gas for heating and cooking. It is supposed to be less expensive unless one sells electricity to the power company.

It seems like a good thing. One good thing is the reduced infrastructure required. Of course, natural gas is still probably on the table for electricity generation, but at least this sets the stage for an exit (strategy) from fossil fuels.

For cooking, induction stovetops are supposed to be very good overall, natural gas won't even be missed.

Well, I'll have to settle for LED fireplaces instead of natural gas fireplaces, which is certainly not comparable.

[JuanP]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('radon1', 'R')ussia is selling gas to China for pennies if not at loss, because China does not need that much gas. They already have supply from the Middle Asian stans and elsewhere. Meanwhile, Russia charges their own citizens at Far East a much greater price for NG than the Chinese just across the border. It is cheaper to buy liquid NG from the US in the Russian Far East than from the Russian domestic producers.

Meanwhile, the Western Europe pays the world market prices for the Russian NG which is a multiple of the Chinese prices. So no, let the Europeans buy all the NG that they want and then some.

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JuanP', 'N')onsense! I will add to Dissident's reply above.

[JuanP]

"Russian gas flows to Europe remain at 2020 highs in November"
https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/mark ... n-november

"Russian exports to Europe via the four main corridors -- Nord Stream, Yamal-Europe, Ukraine and TurkStream -- totaled 13.18 Bcm last month, the data showed."

[REAL Green]

“Tackling The Natural Gas Industry’s Biggest Problem”
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas ... oblem.html

“A new Energy Institute study is working to tackle this problem exactly. The working paper, “Hard to Measure Well: Can Feasible Policies Reduce Methane Emissions?,” identifies quantifying methane emissions as the first step to finding a cost-effective and efficient means of lowering the natural gas industry’s greenhouse gas footprint. The problem is that much of these emissions come from leaks, which means that operators often aren’t aware that it’s happening in the first place, or how or where to patch the problem. The paper suggests three possible approaches to solving this issue. The first, least promising option involves trial and error audits in the hope of stumbling across a leak. In this scenario, the paper points out, firms would have very little incentive to proactively work on stopping leakage. The second approach is only slightly better, targeting wells that are most likely to be problem areas due to variables like their size and age. The third, and most promising approach, “assumes the regulator can use satellite-based measurements to detect leaks above a certain threshold,” reports the Energy Institute at Haas. “When leaks are remotely sensed, regulatory staff are dispatched to audit. Simulated outcomes under this approach are promising. Better leak detection coupled with the higher fine per unit of emissions leaked gives firms a much stronger incentive to invest in leak prevention.”

[Subjectivist]

Now that it has come up I have not heard any whining about Ukraine suffering from lack of gas because they are late making payments recently. Kind of hard to continue claiming the Crimea was stolen if you simultaneously buy gas from the thief I guess?

[JuanP]

Russia is moving forward with the Soyuz Vostok natural gas pipeline that will allow it to export natural gas from West Siberia to China through Mongolia. This pipeline will allow Russia to export West Siberian natural gas East or West, as it pleases. If the Europeans cancel Nord Stream 2 Russia will export that gas to China through pipelines or as LNG to the global market.

"Gazprom creates company in Mongolia for gas pipeline design"
https://tass.com/economy/1248003

"MOSCOW, January 22. /TASS/. Gazprom has registered in Mongolia Gazoprovod Soyuz Vostok, a special purpose vehicle to deal with design and survey and the feasibility study for the project of building a main gas pipeline across Mongolia for gas deliveries to China, the Russian gas holding says on Friday.

"The Soyuz Vostok gas pipeline will be an extension of the Russian gas pipeline Power of Siberia 2 on the territory of Mongolia, whose export capacity can be more than 1.3 times above the capacity of the Power of Siberia [gas pipeline]. This will make possible to supply gas from West Siberia for export in huge quantities not merely in the Western, but also in the Eastern direction," Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller is cited as saying.

Gazprom plans to complete preparation of the feasibility study for gas pipeline construction through Mongolia in the first quarter of 2021, Miller said this Tuesday at the meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The feasibility study will be actually ready in the first quarter of 2021, he noted.

In December 2019, Gazprom signed a memorandum of understanding with Mongolia, contemplating joint assessment of the opportunity for pipeline gas supplies from Russia to China across Mongolia. In August 2020, a memorandum was signed providing for establishment of a special purpose vehicle to perform a pre-investment project assessment. Planned throughput capacity of the pipeline can be up to 50 bln cubic meters of gas per year."

[dissident]

When this Mongolian pipeline is completed, Russia will have 60 + 1.3*60 = 138 bcm/year export capacity to the Orient. That is almost the whole amount it exports to the EU (around 150 bcm/year). The difference is more than replaced by LNG export capacity already coming on stream. The bell is tolling for EU deciders but they are too arrogant to hear.

Maybe the EU can tap Greta.

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'N')ow that it has come up I have not heard any whining about Ukraine suffering from lack of gas because they are late making payments recently. Kind of hard to continue claiming the Crimea was stolen if you simultaneously buy gas from the thief I guess?