[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('REAL Green', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'F')or me the systemic problems in the USA make me a serious believer in breaking up the USA into smaller independent entities, countries or an allied federation of separate regions. I sometimes see the tribal civil war like polarity as the same as the rapid metamorphosis that happens with cell mitosis when a cell is ready to split into two.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '
')Apparently you haven't visited a doctor recently.

[diemos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', 'N')ew case rates, as presented by https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/, if plotted are giving a 5th degree polynomial. No earthly originating virus in history has ever grown according to such a function.

[JuanP]

So, in Miami people are supposed to wear masks in yoga studios and gyms while exercising, so the two yoga studios where my wife and I go to practice will remain closed and teach only virtual and private classes. We are lucky that we have the keys for both and we can go to practice whenever we want on our own.

We went to our favorite restaurant for dinner tonight, the last night that they will serve indoors in god knows how long. The owner told me that he will most likely close down until September because deliveries, takeout, and outdoor dining is not enough to make it worth to stay open. He will make the decision in a week or two, after he uses up all the food in his cooler. If he closes he will save money in gas and electricity, and he can take a vacation.

[suxs]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ovid19 has been managed horrendously poor but it also has revealed the underlying systemic inequities and poor social services that have aggravated the impacts of this mild pandemic.

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('suxs', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ovid19 has been managed horrendously poor but it also has revealed the underlying systemic inequities and poor social services that have aggravated the impacts of this mild pandemic.

[Newfie]

RealGreen,

One senior facility manager released the emails directing him to take patients back over his very strong objections. He pointed out that they were not giving him time to set up containment spaces while there were empty beds at the Javits center and on the hospital ship.

If you were to remove NY and NJ from the overall USA count the death rate would be much less, something like 48,000 from 133,000. Our death rate would then be roughly 270/M.

Bottom line, the USA, excluding NYC and vicinity, isn’t doing so bad compared to Europe. NY City and the vicinity is doing horribly.

The irony is NY, NJ, CN are putting travel bans on others. It should be the other way around.

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')he irony is NY, NJ, CN are putting travel bans on others. It should be the other way around.

[suxs]

Real Green,

It's funny how you accuse the poster Ibon of a lack of intelligence for siding with JuanP and for having a burr up his ass due to anti-Americanism, yet you project the exact same "qualities" regarding any criticism of Trump.

I don't understand your complaint as poster Ibon appears to espouse a middle of the road approach to politics.

Here's some news to buoy your spirits:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his election is looking more like a Democratic tsunami than simply a Blue wave. President Trump, mired in some of the lowest job approval ratings of his presidency, is trailing Biden by significant margins in key battleground states like Pennsylvania (8 points), Michigan (9 points), and Wisconsin (9 points). He’s even running behind Biden in his firewall states of Florida and North Carolina. 8 July 2020, The Cook Political Report

[mousepad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('suxs', '
')I don't understand your complaint as poster Ibon appears to espouse a middle of the road approach to politics.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')
The irony is NY, NJ, CN are putting travel bans on others. It should be the other way around.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('suxs', '
')I don't understand your complaint as poster Ibon appears to espouse a middle of the road approach to politics.

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('suxs', ' ')yet you project the exact same "qualities" regarding any criticism of Trump.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '
')Apparently you haven't visited a doctor recently.

[suxs]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o he's not. He's hard core liberal left.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', ' ')Letting the virus mostly run and damn most of the consequences is more of a right wing approach.

[diemos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Why do you say that?

In the US it was the left wing states of New York and New Jersey who delayed ordering people to quarantine and didn't mandate masks or social separation and carelessly sent infected people into nursing homes and let infected homeless people poop and pee and basically live in the subways and then didn't even think of disinfecting their subways and buses and commuter trains until it was far far too late.....resulting in by far the highest death tolls and highest death rates in the US. They had so many dead people in New York they were stacking up the bodies in U-Haul trucks ..... and the trucks weren't even refrigerated.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('diemos', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Why do you say that?

In the US it was the left wing states of New York and New Jersey who delayed ordering people to quarantine and didn't mandate masks or social separation and carelessly sent infected people into nursing homes and let infected homeless people poop and pee and basically live in the subways and then didn't even think of disinfecting their subways and buses and commuter trains until it was far far too late.....resulting in by far the highest death tolls and highest death rates in the US. They had so many dead people in New York they were stacking up the bodies in U-Haul trucks ..... and the trucks weren't even refrigerated.

[suxs]

Plant-

Where was all of your sage advice when it mattered? You can play Monday morning quarterback and criticize from the comfort of 20/20 hindsight all you want but NY had to deal with what they had at the time. It's always so easy to second-guess decisions after the event is finished.

What's the excuse now being used for the "right-wing" states of Texas, Florida, Alaska. Oklahoma, Arizona, Alabama, Arkansas that should have known better?

According to the CDC, New York - the epicenter of the US outbreak - has a 0.9 effective reproduction rate, which is one of the lowest across the country.

All seven states that currently have no stay-at-home orders - Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming - are among the states with the highest rates of secondary infections.

[REAL Green]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('suxs', 'P')lant- Where was all of your sage advice when it mattered? You can play Monday morning quarterback and criticize from the comfort of 20/20 hindsight all you want but NY had to deal with what they had at the time. It's always so easy to second-guess decisions after the event is finished.