Daylight-Saving Time Extended by a Month
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he time change is supposed save energy because people have more daylight in the evening and do not have to turn on lights.
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peak oil averted!
by seldom_seen » Fri 29 Jul 2005, 00:10:53
There was a time there where I was losing faith in the goverment to act on the PO problem. Then out of the blues comes this legislation, and our worries are put to rest. That was close! That was damn close.
Well so much for this website, huh? If you need any help powering down the servers or boxing them up let me know. Meanwhile I'm going to wipe the egg from my eye.
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by turmoil » Fri 29 Jul 2005, 00:12:17
i believe the figure is 10,000 bpd would be saved. so for two months that'd be about 600k.
Sorry to disappoint.
Sorry to disappoint.
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by Serious » Fri 29 Jul 2005, 00:43:32
As I was picking up my 5 for $5.95 last night the thought occurred to me that, instead of the DST alteration, wouldn't it make more sense to provide some disincentive to businesses that stay open to 1 or 2 AM or even all night. Do we really need a fast food joint open after 10 PM on every other block? I'm not saying shut them all down--not everyone has a day job, but the energy savings of extending DST is trivial compared to what could be saved by not running retail businesses all night.
Of course, all this really leads to the more important question of what should have been in the US energy bill.
Of course, all this really leads to the more important question of what should have been in the US energy bill.
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by seldom_seen » Fri 29 Jul 2005, 01:29:44
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stupid_monkeys', 'i') believe the figure is 10,000 bpd would be saved.
okay, so maybe I got a little over enthusiastic. That reduces global daily demand by about .012 percent.
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by ShawnAvery » Fri 29 Jul 2005, 10:19:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serious', 'A')s I was picking up my 5 for $5.95 last night the thought occurred to me that, instead of the DST alteration, wouldn't it make more sense to provide some disincentive to businesses that stay open to 1 or 2 AM or even all night. Do we really need a fast food joint open after 10 PM on every other block? I'm not saying shut them all down--not everyone has a day job, but the energy savings of extending DST is trivial compared to what could be saved by not running retail businesses all night.
Of course, all this really leads to the more important question of what should have been in the US energy bill.
Of course, all this really leads to the more important question of what should have been in the US energy bill.
that's SO not even how it works. the energy peaking is what causes the grid to go down. go watch the end of suburbia.
in case you didn't know, even if you DON'T use the power from the power plant it doesn't mean that the power isn't still being generated. you just can't flip the switch to natural gas, coal, or nuclear power plants to turn them off. they run 24/7. all that energy that we dont use during the night is WASTED because the power plants are still on!!
what we need is 3 shifts of 8 hours apiece work days and everyone spread out evenly between these shifts. naturally, daylight hours should pay less. that way, we could have less total power being generated and the power that is generated would be used more efficiently.
the peak of energy consumption would go down, therefore causing peak energy output to go down, therefore mostly eliminating the need for a cushion of power generation to deal with around 4pm
when 'all 3 categories of users.. industrial, residential, and commercial are all using energy'
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by Serious » Fri 29 Jul 2005, 11:08:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ShawnAvery', '
')in case you didn't know, even if you DON'T use the power from the power plant it doesn't mean that the power isn't still being generated. you just can't flip the switch to natural gas, coal, or nuclear power plants to turn them off. they run 24/7. all that energy that we dont use during the night is WASTED because the power plants are still on!!
')in case you didn't know, even if you DON'T use the power from the power plant it doesn't mean that the power isn't still being generated. you just can't flip the switch to natural gas, coal, or nuclear power plants to turn them off. they run 24/7. all that energy that we dont use during the night is WASTED because the power plants are still on!!
That is SO wrong on so many levels that I see no point in responding to it.
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