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Unread postby threadbear » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 21:40:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')hile we're bitching....

You know what bothers me the most about TV? That goddamned fucking fake laughter.
Sorry for the "in your face" there, but Jesus I hate that. Literally, every 5 seconds, after EVERY sentence, you hear the "hahaha"..."hahaha"..."hahaha"
It literally drives me up a wall. Theres only about 3 sit-com's on TV I can watch and not notice it.

It didnt used to be a problem. I got stuck in a room listening to that fake laughter for about 3 hours one time in the middle of an intense acid trip. I about freaked out and killed someone. It was ugly.
Ever since then, i cant watch shows with fake laughter.


That's kind of interesting. They add laughter when there isn't any, and probably muffle it when there is. Like Fox news. People on set are probably cracking up at all the BS, but we don't hear it. :lol:
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 23:55:46

That was very refreshing and real Kent, thanks. I was delighted to read that. I wanted to go into the arts, but rejected anything to do with commercial art or advertising for the very reasons you mentioned. I didn't want to cheapen creativity for the suits to sell crap and would have been miserable.
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Unread postby k_semler » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:04:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wildwell', 'W')ithout advertising you can forget most sports, newspapers, TV and entertainment in general. In some people's power down scenario, there will be hardly any industry or commerce, no travel, no sex, no entertainment...looks like it's going to be mighty boring..


Sounds good to me!

*Newspaper-->Why bother? I listen to the radio about 16 horus a day, I already got the news anyway.

*TV-->Haven't watched anything other than that one show about Yellowstone blowing up in the last year and a half.

*Sports-->They suck anyhow. Just a mindless turnoff more than even TV. Sports are useless. They serve absolutly no useful function, and people in it get paid $50 Mil per year to throw a ball around a field. How dull.

Modern music--> Most of it sucks. I could bang otu something on my banjo, and it would be more creative than most of the shit on the FM airwaves.

As long as I can get access to SW radio and a good book, I'm happy.
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Unread postby k_semler » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:09:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Permanently_Baffled', 'I') realised that they showed the film 3 times a night 3 times in one week , is the fecking normal in the US?!

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Yes, it is. Per hour of programming, there is only about 40 miniutes of actual shot wimt. That equates to about 122 days of straight advertisement per year.
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Unread postby k_semler » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:15:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')hile we're bitching....

You know what bothers me the most about TV? That goddamned fucking fake laughter.
Sorry for the "in your face" there, but Jesus I hate that. Literally, every 5 seconds, after EVERY sentence, you hear the "hahaha"..."hahaha"..."hahaha"
It literally drives me up a wall. Theres only about 3 sit-com's on TV I can watch and not notice it.

It didnt used to be a problem. I got stu

ck in a room listening to that fake laughter for about 3 hours one time in the middle of an intense acid trip. I about freaked out and killed someone. It was ugly.
Ever since then, i cant watch shows with fake laughter.


That's kind of interesting. They add laughter when there isn't any, and probably muffle it when there is. Like Fox news. People on set are probably cracking up at all the BS, but we don't hear it. :lol:

If they are laughing at Fox, then they must be puking and shitting themselves when they watch Communist Network News.
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Unread postby Badger » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:17:11

Reality TV is another load of utter crap with idol prgrammes and all that bullshit eeerrr hello its not real...

on the bright side as long as its business as usual gives me and my friends more time to get ready for the new realities of the 21st century with out standing in a que of scared desperate people wondering whats happening
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Unread postby smiley » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 12:58:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ell yes, but at a smaller scale, no big competitions.


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Unread postby aldente » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 04:32:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', ' ')I about freaked out and killed someone. It was ugly.
Ever since then, i cant watch shows with fake laughter.

If that truly should have been the case I can relate. Not in context but in the loss of the "peace in soul", in German -Seelenfrieden.

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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 04:49:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', ' ')I about freaked out and killed someone. It was ugly.
Ever since then, i cant watch shows with fake laughter.

If that truly should have been the case I can relate. Not in context but in the loss of the "peace in soul", in German -Seelenfrieden.

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This picture looks like the couple is caught by the surveillance camera. But, look at the cereal boxes. . .
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Unread postby The_Toecutter » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 05:03:08

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Unread postby Pops » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 10:57:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kent', '
')... but I never could figure out a way to make a decent living in the arts. The funny thing is that the actual process of creating ads could be quite fun, even thrilling at times, but when I began to face up to an awareness of what my job was really about (selling shit), the ad business pretty much nauseated me.


Doing commercial art sucks most of the time, once in a great while it’s fun. The money is pretty good though; it’s better than working for a living (I’ve done that too) and I doubt few of us can say what they do (and what they buy) is actually helping the situation.

I’m sure my experience wasn’t anything like yours though, Kent. I never worked for a big shop; I was half partner in a tiny (3mil/yr gross) outfit that produced and placed TV (mostly local cable), radio and print ads – my end was print - never did anything national except some magazines. Before that I was marketing/store-planning director of a medium sized jewelry store chain - basically in charge of all public perception of the business except people and merchandise (read: advertising in the macro sense).

Your story reminded me of early one morning a couple years back, driving through the orchards of central CA to reach the office in time to prepare for a meeting and hearing a story on NPR. The guy (an account manager I think) was talking about being in an advertising meeting in San Francisco one day and it dawned on him the utter uselessness of his professional life. He quit his job that day, bought a small farm, started a truck garden growing vegetables and small fruit and never looked back.

When he told the name of his farm I had to laugh, I had just passed it admiring the neat rows, as I had every morning for years.

The meeting that day with a small town car dealer (the core of all local advertising) and just about every meeting afterward, took on a different and less critical importance. I don’t know how much that story affected me but my partner and I dissolved the company about a year later.

Between practicing my farming and husbandry skills I still do graphics from the old farmhouse here in Missouri, mostly collateral pieces but some direct mail and SUV ads; I did a couple of bus wraps of a 4wd pickup in SF this spring for cripes sake!


Rest assured folks the ad budget is the first thing to get the axe when times get lean.
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Unread postby SeasonOfPain » Thu 28 Jul 2005, 14:48:39

Heh, I majored in Radio/TV/Film in college. What it did was illuminate how utterly VAPID and MINDLESS the entertainment industry really is, and how it's essentially "bread and circuses" to keep people willfully blind to the fact that they exist purely to consume.

I don't watch television voluntarily (except the occasional Start Trek or Law and Order rerun), but my wife is unfortunately addicted. She gets really annoyed at my constant criticisms of the drivel pouring out of the networks (especially cable). However, I couldn't even comprehend sitting through an entire episode of one of those brainless HGTV/TLC "home improvement" reality shows even before I became PO-aware!

To me, "consumer" is the ultimate insult. One major silver lining of PO for me will be to watch the WalMart nation implode. :)
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Unread postby Kez » Thu 28 Jul 2005, 15:33:08

You can't ban advertising simply because it would start another great depression. With all the advertising I see there must be 100 zillion people employed that would become unemployed. Companies would then take that advertising budget and give it to the CEO's and raise the stock dividends, etc.

Yeah I'm just fooling around, but damn I hate ads. If you watch TV at all, get a DVR or a Tivo and save yourself at least a few hours a week of time that you saved by skipping through the ads.

If you hate internet ads, do a google search for "hosts file" and edit that. It literally blocks most every ad web-domain forever without even loading it up and wasting more of your time and bandwidth by downloading it.
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