[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', '
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Our choice between a mental juvenile President and a mental senile President seems like not the best set of options. We are not getting leadership on either side. Even the Democrats better start assembling a Pandemic team for this. However, they can't because they are all chicken-shits, wedded to their constituency that is leading them down a blind path.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') just looked up death rate in the USA and it was 0.1% approximately, so 300,000 deaths per year

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', '
')
Our choice between a mental juvenile President and a mental senile President seems like not the best set of options. We are not getting leadership on either side. Even the Democrats better start assembling a Pandemic team for this. However, they can't because they are all chicken-shits, wedded to their constituency that is leading them down a blind path.

[Outcast_Searcher]

Good points rock. Yes, the good news re lots more (and mild) cases is it drags down the odds of getting a dangerous case, greatly -- I'd made that point to the "all is doom" folks multiple times in recent weeks.

And thanks re the tip on the cloth mask. I already knew the issue for the eyes, trade-offs for touching the face, etc. Mainly re the masks, just like wipes and hand sanitizer, I get frustrated at constant advice that Americans "should be doing X", when a HUGE proportion of them CAN'T, due to horrible planning re the folks in charge -- and it's not like the MSM shouldn't be CLUED IN to that fact.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcastsearcher', 'A')nd, wow, THAT DIDN'T TAKE LONG to see another wave cranking up in China when they loosened restrictions! Last week I read about them getting things cranked up re factories, etc. and this week -- oops, another wave starting.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
')The lack of medical supplies was something that the previous government created

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere comes the blame-shifting.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
')a simple statement of facts.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') simple statement of...partisan bullshit.

[sparky]

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Why blame some puppet politicians , those guys are just for the entertainment of the masses
the real question is
...why the greatest nation in the world has a monstrously large military and a third world health system

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/cha ... item-start

It could be argued that the US has the most expensive for the least efficient health system in the world

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
')says the person who at every opportunity points to Orange Man Bad

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
Why blame some puppet politicians , those guys are just for the entertainment of the masses
the real question is
...why the greatest nation in the world has a monstrously large military and a third world health system

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/cha ... item-start

It could be argued that the US has the most expensive for the least efficient health system in the world

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
')The lack of medical supplies was something that the previous government created

[sparky]

.

Quoting form one of the News item

" The thing is, you have to build redundancy into the system, some overcapacity.
If you have capacity, then you don’t have to slow down things so much. Think of fire-fighting. Fires are quick, they need to be attacked quickly. You have to
have overcapacity. Fire engines sitting around idly, seemingly uselessly, until the call comes. Firefighters being bored, playing cards (or, rather, playing their
smartphones). But no-one will say, “We don’t need so many of them if they don’t actually work.” At some point, they will be needed, in a flash.

And that goes for the health care system as well. There should have been many more hospital beds available (even if empty most of the time), more respirators,
protective suits, and so forth. If you don’t have that infrastructure, you will have to build it quickly, "

I don't see the Pentagon arguing on what they need now , they always argue what they might need if there is a crisis
same for health infrastructure , you need some serious slack to cope with overflow
take the electrical industry , they Know they need excess capacity ready to cope with a crisis and they do , very well and quite unreported
the rule in Australia is they need to have ready within a couple of minutes the same spare production as the largest producer on line

If you tailor your system to the tightest requirement on a fair day , one thing is for sure , on a bad day you will not cope

For shame ,protected by corrupt politicians, the life of US patients has been discounted as little more than a juicy market for the medical industry ,

[mmasters]

I'm afraid asg70 has too much air on the brain.

[sparky]

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As far as medical disaster in an advanced country goes ,
the US is mightily striving to prove they can have a greater disaster than anyone ...go america !
the issue I'm watching is the "what next "
medical orderly paid 37 thousand bucks a year ! ...to risk their life
how about taking some money from the pentagon to give them a raise
a few ten thousand dollar hammers would help

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
medical orderly paid 37 thousand bucks a year ! ...to risk their life

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
medical orderly paid 37 thousand bucks a year ! ...to risk their life