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Emissions that smell like urine?

Unread postby LadyRuby » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 18:35:59

I'm probably just paranoid, but I remember someone saying something about additives being put in petroleum. The other day, everytime I'd start my car or drive in it I'd have this strong urine-like smell. It's gone now (we've since refueled the car). Just something wierd, or could there have been some additive in the fuel that wasn't supposed to be there?
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Unread postby Grimnir » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 19:32:42

I don't know about urine, but I've noticed a skunk smell following cars when I've been out walking. I assumed it was due to more heavy crude being used in gasoline = more sulfur.
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Unread postby RonMN » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 20:58:10

Maybe somebody peed in your gas tank :lol:

Seriously...i've been smelling gun powder. I've also considered this to possibly be the higher sulfer crude.
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Unread postby LadyRuby » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 21:19:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'M')aybe somebody peed in your gas tank :lol:



I actually thought of that! Maybe because one of my kids still wears diapers I'm suspcious that I left a wet diaper in the car, though I didn't find one. Not sure exactly what the smell was but definitely kind of sour and foul.
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Unread postby BrownDog » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 23:24:58

I have noticed that gasoline has a different places/times has different odors. I asked an acquaintance who works in that industry about it once, and they said that odor really can vary depending on the source, and the makeup of a particular batch. Apparently, what we burn in our cars is not as pure as we'd think, and they mix and match components to meet octane ratings, etc. I found the whole thing interesting, if unspecific.

The point? It probably wasn't just you, but I don't know what it is.

FWIW, I usually associate a urine odor with ammonia (NH3). It wouldn't surprise me if NH3 was a combustion byproduct, depending on the fuel, but I'm pretty rusty on my chemistry.
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Unread postby Grimnir » Thu 28 Jul 2005, 00:08:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BrownDog', 'F')WIW, I usually associate a urine odor with ammonia (NH3). It wouldn't surprise me if NH3 was a combustion byproduct, depending on the fuel, but I'm pretty rusty on my chemistry.


Any nitrogen in gasoline should oxide to NO2 or NO3. NH3, like CH4 (methane), reacts strongly with oxygen (burns) when it is heated, although it is a bit trickier to get started. What do catalytic converters do with nitrogen? I think they try to make sure it's oxidized all the way to NO3 rather than to NO2, but I'm not completely sure. Do they reduce it to ammonia?

Edit: Seems that a properly functioning converter will convert all nitrogen oxides into N2 gas, but sometimes they "work too well" and reduce it all the way to ammonia. Maybe that's what's going on.
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Unread postby Daculling » Thu 28 Jul 2005, 00:29:33

It's the new catalytic devices. I smell it from my truck as well as others. It debend on if you give it a lot of fuel at once and then just idle... ie. if you punch it and then quickly come to a stop you will smell it (rotten eggs) otherwise you don't. But I also think it has to do with the additives. You smell it in the winter more than the summer. At least where I'm at. Do a search on the Interwebs, I don't think it's sulfer thought it smells like it.

Gunpowder? You must be shooting the old shit huh?
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Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 28 Jul 2005, 06:18:45

I smelled a stinky car today, I thought to myself, "That's a stinky car".
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