by rockdoc123 » Wed 27 Jul 2005, 16:53:01
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he industries whose livelihoods depend on continuing our CO2 emitting activities are pumping millions into a disinformation campaign to create the illusion that there is still a real doubt about about anthropomorphic climate change. It only takes a minute to find out who is funding the groups making these claims on sourcewatch.org
Unhuh....and that was something else you read somewhere....you of course have proof that this is truly disinformation? Have you read the actual studies or just the press on it? Have you gone to look at the raw data? Who do you think is funding the Climate Change folks....you think they are doing anything for free?
I've been following both sides of the Climate Change arguments for the past 10 years or so....reading from various sources including Science, Nature, Journal of Geophysical Research, Geology, Geotimes etc. From what I can tell the way it goes is:
1. Climate Change scientist writes paper stating emphatically that something or other causes something or other
2. A scientist from the other side of the argument states that well hold on you have misinterpreted the data and/or your model does not take into account such and such....or if that is the case why doesn't your model explain historical data ...etc.
3. Climate Change scientist responds not with cogent arguments but rather with rhetoric...."all scientists agree"...or "you are not a Climate Change scientist".....or "you are being paid off by oil companies".
Sorry I don't buy this.
First off the point that you need to understand (and I've had a long argument on this forum elsewhere in this regards) is CO2 makes up less than 3% of greenhouse gases and water vapor is the most important of all...it is not taken into account in any of the greenhouse temperature models. Anthropogenic CO2 makes up only 3% of all CO2 in the atmosphere.
I don't ask you to take me at my word here....although my qualifications as a scientist are definitely better than a goodly sum of the IPCC wankers....but I only ask that you keep an open mind and question what you read from both sides. You are getting sucked in by very slick hype.