Yes, 10 years ago we were talking about vibrant sexy doom and now it is all the same and the same old boring doom which always come but never quite.
This doom is coming so slow that most of us doomers will die well before it got a chance to materialize.
California was burning and there was blackouts - boring
Australia is burning now - boring as well.
Stock market is 5 or 10% down within last month - boring
Tanada will report that just now one additional ppm of CO2 have been recorded in air - boring
He will also mention about those additional 5ppb of methane - boring too.
Dohboi will bring a news of some warming record again beaten by 0.01*C - boring (ech, if only it was 2 or 5*C, not a measly 0.01*C but no, it must be boring 0.01*C).
There is also a societal collapse - 75 000 have died of drug overdose last year and 1000000 is now homeless US wide - so boring.
What about 10 000 000 being homeless and half of them dying every month with numbers of homeless growing still - that would be something.
Now we have new lethal virus - one Chinese and one Vietnamese peasant have died - yawn...
Doom is a really boring thing... yawn...
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Doom have gone boring
Doom have gone boring
by EnergyUnlimited » Sat 18 Jan 2020, 16:57:39
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Re: Doom have gone boring
by Outcast_Searcher » Sat 18 Jan 2020, 17:09:27
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'Y')es, 10 years ago we were talking about vibrant sexy doom and now it is all the same and the same old boring doom which always come but never quite.
This doom is coming so slow that most of us doomers will die well before it got a chance to materialize.
California was burning and there was blackouts - boring
Australia is burning now - boring as well.
Stock market is 5 or 10% down within last month - boring
Tanada will report that just now one additional ppm of CO2 have been recorded in air - boring
He will also mention about those additional 5ppb of methane - boring too.
Dohboi will bring a news of some warming record again beaten by 0.01*C - boring (ech, if only it was 2 or 5*C, not a measly 0.01*C but no, it must be boring 0.01*C).
There is also a societal collapse - 75 000 have died of drug overdose last year and 1000000 is now homeless US wide - so boring.
What about 10 000 000 being homeless and half of them dying every month with numbers of homeless growing still - that would be something.
Now we have new lethal virus - one Chinese and one Vietnamese peasant have died - yawn...
Doom is a really boring thing... yawn...
This doom is coming so slow that most of us doomers will die well before it got a chance to materialize.
California was burning and there was blackouts - boring
Australia is burning now - boring as well.
Stock market is 5 or 10% down within last month - boring
Tanada will report that just now one additional ppm of CO2 have been recorded in air - boring
He will also mention about those additional 5ppb of methane - boring too.
Dohboi will bring a news of some warming record again beaten by 0.01*C - boring (ech, if only it was 2 or 5*C, not a measly 0.01*C but no, it must be boring 0.01*C).
There is also a societal collapse - 75 000 have died of drug overdose last year and 1000000 is now homeless US wide - so boring.
What about 10 000 000 being homeless and half of them dying every month with numbers of homeless growing still - that would be something.
Now we have new lethal virus - one Chinese and one Vietnamese peasant have died - yawn...
Doom is a really boring thing... yawn...
Don't look now, but I think you just made a good case for why, at the end of the day, I'm a moderate with a pessimistic long term outlook for humanity, given human nature and the flow of history.
(If only lots of bright red font would actually make, for example, lots of Ebola braying credible re likely global doom, maybe reality wouldn't be so boring). I'll say it again -- any likely short term doom will be completely unexpected, like a giant extinction event meteor.
Oh, and again, with a tip of the hat to ASG: BAU CONTINUES APACE.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Doom have gone boring
by onlooker » Sat 18 Jan 2020, 17:33:23
Yeah, the perfect storm of Collapse chaos brewing is well just boring. A grossly unjust economic system run by greedy amoral people that is inexorably petering out from a deficit of net energy, leaving much less of an economic pie for all is boring. As is the mutifaceted depletion, poisoning and degradation of the environment which all life depends on boring. Ditto for setting up the conditions for a mass extinction event via CC. Oh we also have the tightening grip of a Oligarchy-Plutocracy that is in a police/military mode of control. Many nukes still on trigger alert as the big powers vie to be the last man standing on a beleaguered Earth boring also. Everything will continue boring until its not. Sweet dreams.
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Re: Doom have gone boring
by Tanada » Sat 18 Jan 2020, 17:44:27
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'Y')es, 10 years ago we were talking about vibrant sexy doom and now it is all the same and the same old boring doom which always come but never quite.
This doom is coming so slow that most of us doomers will die well before it got a chance to materialize.
California was burning and there was blackouts - boring
Australia is burning now - boring as well.
Stock market is 5 or 10% down within last month - boring
Tanada will report that just now one additional ppm of CO2 have been recorded in air - boring
He will also mention about those additional 5ppb of methane - boring too.
This doom is coming so slow that most of us doomers will die well before it got a chance to materialize.
California was burning and there was blackouts - boring
Australia is burning now - boring as well.
Stock market is 5 or 10% down within last month - boring
Tanada will report that just now one additional ppm of CO2 have been recorded in air - boring
He will also mention about those additional 5ppb of methane - boring too.
You got me there, I mostly just post every two or three weeks now compared to my old daily recording of the figures because I realized just how unexciting the whole thing was. While I honestly believe we are at or near the CO2 tipping point I have also pointed out I don't know how many times we don't know precisely what the key point is. We could hit it before June 2020 or not until 2035, and waiting with baited breath every week for anther 15 years is an impossible pace of doom for my moderate soul to sustain.
I am also a big believer that the Arctic Sea Ice is getting close to a tipping point, but just like CO2 levels it could happen in 2020 or not until 2035 or heck 50 years after I die of a ripe old age.
As a Moderate I have always said BAU would muddle through for a long time to come for the simple reason that people are not going to just curl up and die when life challenges them. They will fight to keep their lifestyle going just as long and as hard as they can figure out. Don't take my word for it look at the crash and burn of the USSR. Sure lots of people died of neglect or suicide, but you did not get a nation wide famine causing people to die in waves. No pandemic diseases erupted and swept through the land killing 20% of the population. People were sad and angry and uncomfortable, but they didn't riot and burn down everything in sight, they didn't go mad killing each other in tribal mob actions, and they didn't all die of alcohol poisoning trying to drown their sorrow either.
My parents grew up during the Great depression when most families were dependent on a single income and 35% of the working age population was unemployed at its worst ebb. Millions of Americans migrated to different places in the 1930's looking for work or trying to escape the Dust Bowl. But as bad as it was the nation functioned, muddling along through, because people were not willing to just shrug and die. Oklahoma was one of the hardest hit places during the Dust Bowl with the largest out migration of residents anywhere, but when the next census came the population had barely changed.
Humans are tougher and more resilient than most doomers would have you believe. The civilizations humans build do not crumble overnight without a spectacular unmistakable event causing everything to come apart. Back when I thought people were listening I pointed out that if fuel were suddenly $20/gallon the government would make darn sure the military and the farmers were first in line to get what they needed to keep the masses fed. Even when the USSR fell apart the farmers still kept farming and the people still got fed for the very same reason, the people in government have no desire to dangle from a rope tied to the nearest lamppost, tree or building window.
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Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: Doom have gone boring
by Outcast_Searcher » Sat 18 Jan 2020, 17:45:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'Y')eah, the perfect storm of Collapse chaos brewing is well just boring. A grossly unjust economic system run by greedy amoral people that is inexorably petering out from a deficit of net energy, leaving much less of an economic pie for all is boring. As is the mutifaceted depletion, poisoning and degradation of the environment which all life depends on boring. Ditto for setting up the conditions for a mass extinction event via CC. Oh we also have the tightening grip of a Oligarchy-Plutocracy that is in a police/military mode of control. Many nukes still on trigger alert as the big powers vie to be the last man standing on a beleaguered Earth boring also. Everything will continue boring until its not. Sweet dreams.
If only empty ranting and being constantly wrong re predictions made you smart, I'll be the first to admit it, you'd be an Einstein. Yet in the real world, things like hard work and practicality would almost certainly serve you better.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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