[shortonoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')onnipun said:

Also, I have read that it is possible to fiddle with 737 systems from distance. How the hell they did not recognize the plane?

[asg70]

So now we're spinning conspiracy theories about the inner politics of OTHER countries? Seriously, tinfoil has no bounds.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '[')They themselves have been plagued by these barbarians since the disposition of the Shah by the CIA.

[Yonnipun]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he IRG murdered a plane load of innocent people to revenge their leader, and make a statement.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he IRG murdered a plane load of innocent people to revenge their leader, and make a statement. 

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '
')Please explain to us exactly how that works.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')The plane was >90% Iranians, mostly expat teachers, doctors, students etc. Why on Gods green earth would they .... shoot down a plane full of their own people?

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Iranian expat community consists mostly of people and the children of people who have fled the current regime. These people fled iran because they are not supporters of the Islamic republic.

[shortonoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')lease explain to us exactly how that works. The plane was >90% Iranians, mostly expat teachers, doctors, students etc. Why on Gods green earth would they try to get revenge on the US by shooting down a plane full of their own people? Sorry, you have really lost it this time.

[Newfie]

Just for a reality check think back to the recent destroyer “accidents.” A further clarification on the McCole accident came out a few weeks ago. In that case the Helmsman wanted to go grab a snack, so they had a rookie, someone with 3 months in the service, take the helm.

Three months, half that time is in boot camp, then some leave, then transiting to Japan. The kid had come from a farm and had never been on the ocean before. And they put him in the helm. WTF!

The poor kid hardly had time enough to find the head and his bunk, clearly he was not “poorly trained” but NOT trained for his job.

And besides that all kinds of problems have come out about the ships control systems. The Senior Chief Petty Officer, the guy in charge of all bridge enlisted personnel, the guy who teaches these personnel, had received an informal 3 hour run down on the ships systems when he came aboard.

There is a BIG RED MUSHROOM BUTTON that they mashed a few times. The problem was it did NOT do what they thought it did. NO ONE one the ship properly understood the BIG RED MUSHROOM BUTTON. They thought it transferred steering to an alternate location, instead it was a RESET button. The ships manuals were 3 years and several software revisions out of date.

If that can happen in the US Navy what can can we expect from Iran or other countries?

Well look at Norway and the frigate, their pride and joy, they sunk. They SAW the bloody tanker but thought it was a dock. Harbor control saw the situation evolving but did not broadcast a warning. The tanker broadcast warnings, correct navigational directions to the frigate, that were ignored.

So why do it happen? More interesting is why does it not happen more often?

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '
')Venezuela, Iran; who's next on the sacrificial plate of the world's oil industry? They have already taken off over 5mb/d; completely destroying two nations, and the price is still only $59.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')If that can happen in the US Navy what can can we expect from Iran or other countries?

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he IRG has come out in the Ukrainian press, and admitted that they shot down the plane! That is how it works!!

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')If that can happen in the US Navy what can can we expect from Iran or other countries?

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')I don’t watch videos, I read. Bandwidth limited.

[Yoshua]

Trump's "Maximum Pressure" sanctions on Iran are having an effect. The GDP contracted by 9% last year, the currency has tanked, inflation is high, food and fuel prices are souring.

Iran is an overpopulated nation with famine reported in four regions. The nation has been rocked by violent protests.

The regime is under pressure. It is killing its own people on the streets. The regime and its different power fractions are perhaps not behaving "rationally" under pressure.

Maybe the downing of the jet was a mistake. No one seems to be able to make sense of the downing of the jet.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yoshua', 'M')aybe the downing of the jet was a mistake. No one seems to be able to make sense of the downing of the jet.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')I don’t watch videos, I read. Bandwidth limited.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '
')Venezuela, Iran; who's next on the sacrificial plate of the world's oil industry? They have already taken off over 5mb/d; completely destroying two nations, and the price is still only $59.

[Plantagenet]

pro-democracy University students protesting in Tehran are now chanting: "They killed our geniuses and replaced them with clerics" Sounds like the demonstrators in Iran are blaming Khameni and the Muslim fundamentalists who control the Islamic state for the murder of the Iranian ex-pats on the plane---many of whom had advanced degrees or were in graduate school--- as well as for the murder of many intellectuals and academics in Iran back when the Islamic revolution occurred.


"SM Radio سمیرا
@SMohyeddin
This is a brand new chant - never heard before. It’s in response to the caliber of people killed on #UkranianPlaneCrash & the people killed 40 years ago during Iran revolution

“THEY KILLED
OUR GENIUSES
& REPLACED
THEM WITH CLERICS”#IranProtests #Tehran Sunday January 12th"

Its very sad that the Iranian people are trapped under a crazy theocratic dictatorship controlled by old men that take a 1400 year old religious text to be the ultimate authority on how to rule a modern country.

Cheers!