[Ercole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KiddieKorral', 'I')nteresting how you see Islam as monolithic and homogenous.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ercole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KiddieKorral', 'I')nteresting how you see Islam as monolithic and homogenous.

[Ercole]

You're right TB, all these deaths (UK-Iraq-Egypt) make my anger rise + my latin blood = big anger...

[Njegosh]

hmmmmm
half Serb-Montenegrin half Dutch here
so no problem with muslims here!

[I_Like_Plants]

Those without hate have lived in a bubble, fed peeled grapes and marzipan and cherries dipped in chocolate, have never experienced the real world.

Read Richard Dawkins.

If you have the balls, read Kevin McDonald.

[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leaf', 'Y')ou must remember most of the people on this forum who love Muslims and the likes live in the burbs..Have AC on all summer, drive nice cars.."dont have to ride the metro with the races daily" But they will say oh I get along fine with Muslims....yeah while they eat on the other side of Burger King when they are there. I wonder how those poor souls families who died in 911 think of Muslims now...oh yeah you'll get for TV "I have forgive all" but I wonder deep in their hearts how they really feel?? Thats a good point. I encourge all who love Muslims go live in Deerborn MI..peanty to love! Action speaks louder then words I always say!

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leaf', 'Y')ou must remember most of the people on this forum who love Muslims and the likes live in the burbs.

[Jake_old]

Plants give me a break, i have my experience and you have yours.

No muslim has ever beat me to near death, a white man has. I've lived amongst them 13 years and only experienced verbal insults once in all that time.

Experience shows that we hate and we are scared of all sorts of things, especially 'others'.

The muslims here do all the small scale food trading, the British have given this up in order to get on some kind of corporate bandwagon like franchise of Tesco etc.. If it all goes tits up over here and we kill muslims, and Tesco has no food on the shelves, it would turn out to be a seriously stupid thing to do.

It happened in Cambodia didn't it?

I'm obviously bothered by internet insults, I don't know why. My only personal flaw here is that I am prepared to accept that I might be wrong, that is wisdom, knowing what you don't know.

If we could somehow convince people that all religion is phoney and used to recruit in the killing of 'others', these problems would not be here in this way, maybe we'd fight over skin colour, who knows.

I will read some Richard Dawkins & Kevin McDonald, I read a lot.

[Jake_old]

Wow where do you work Doly? I don't like the Burka either but hey.

[Doly]

CSC, in Arndale House, which is in the middle of Luton mall.

[I_Like_Plants]

Doly how could a Buddhist with no hair and an orange robe scare you? That's an instant sign that the person is peaceful, that's == to a european type nun in her penguin suit, peaceful to the nth degree. I saw a monk the other day, walking along the street, as I rode by on my bike, not the buddhist type either, the kind with the brown robe and rope belt, we do have a few old style missions here in California, heck half of our towns are named after saints and missions. I feel the same about Sikhs, peaceful as they come (as long as you're not Indira Ghandi I guess lol) and just the least threatening people you'll run across.

There are two kinds of threat though. One is plain and simple violence on the street, the chance that you won't come back from a walk to the grocery store because someone or more like someones, of one of the other races got you. That was a daily reality where I grew up, and is a daily reality for millions of whites in the US. The other threat is another group gets numerous enough that they are able to own all the stores, own all the businesses, there's no one friendly to shop with, no one to get a job from, etc. That was also daily reality where I grew up, and also for millions of whites in the US. They don't have to kill you, they just starve you to death, no job, no work, no money, not allowed to get relief because they own/run the government, the welfare dept, etc. Fucking Top Ramen was close to $1 a package, and this was back in the fucking 70s.

Yeah, I'm ready to machine-gun them all and so are millions of other Americans, voiceless, not-supposed-to-exist Americans, white working class Americans. Not insulated from our wonderful diverse (with more rights than us) "people of color" paid to come in and take over our neighborhoods and effectively kill us off, not insulated from them, only too familiar with them.

And in another thread people are wondering why some ppl are looking forward to Peak Oil!

[Jake_old]

Its very different in the states to here it seems plants. No one was kicked out of anywhere here, they chose a different way.

[I_Like_Plants]

in all fairness, in the US there's a strong enough Skinhead/Redneck presence that a lot of groups that are terrors in wimpy Britain are considered meek and mild people here.

I once, a few years ago, veered Left in my politics. Even sent money to the Democraptic party (whom kept asking for it years after I went back to the Repubs lol). One day I'm sitting there listening to NPR and I realize that I can sit pretty in my nice area (lived in newport beach) because the areas around me have some real shit-kicking skinheads and the newport PD are known for beating the crap out of anyone too dark to belong if they so much as twitch an eyebrow. You could say those groups were in essence doing my dirty work for me. So I could sit back in believe in the illusion, but that's all it was, an illusion. And by being Left, I was shitting on those laboring hard, some legally, some illegally, for me to be able to walk over to the store at 10 at night or 10 in the morning for that matter and buy a snack. I rejoined the Repubs tout de suite after that realization.

And I'm only a member of the Repubs because we don't have a "Le Pen" type party here, yet.

[Jake_old]

At risk of seriously annoying you I will say that although I've never set foot on American soil, it doesn't matter who you vote for to the rest of the world and therefor ethnic tensions that get produced from your governments actions around the world are unaffected also.

Not the fault of the American people sure, but that is the direction your gov. took.

For what its worth I think you will be correct in the effects and racial strife Peak Oil will bring. I just don't like it. Everyone should be like me, I should be the ruler of the USE.

[I_Like_Plants]

Well, I'd rather see Pat Buchanan in charge, he's an old type conservative in the Charles Lindbergh mold, mind our own business and keep our nose out of other countries'.

But he wasn't nominated!! Waah!

If Kerry/Kohn had won though, we'd be in Iran and Syria by now, and he'd have no compunction against enacting the draft, after all it's only for the "little people".

I voted Repub and will again at the rate things are going, but in my heart of hearts I want an American Le Pen, or if you've researched the guy, think Charles Lindburgh.

Nationalist, Isolationist, Protectionist!

[Jake_old]

Well, interestingly, we were shi**ing our pants after 911 that America would become Isolationist and protectionist, would have hurt our economy(or finished it), obviously.

After the shit storm, that will be the better way though, for every country with resources.

[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'i')n all fairness, in the US there's a strong enough Skinhead/Redneck presence that a lot of groups that are terrors in wimpy Britain are considered meek and mild people here.

I once, a few years ago, veered Left in my politics. Even sent money to the Democraptic party (whom kept asking for it years after I went back to the Repubs lol). One day I'm sitting there listening to NPR and I realize that I can sit pretty in my nice area (lived in newport beach) because the areas around me have some real shit-kicking skinheads and the newport PD are known for beating the crap out of anyone too dark to belong if they so much as twitch an eyebrow. You could say those groups were in essence doing my dirty work for me. So I could sit back in believe in the illusion, but that's all it was, an illusion. And by being Left, I was shitting on those laboring hard, some legally, some illegally, for me to be able to walk over to the store at 10 at night or 10 in the morning for that matter and buy a snack. I rejoined the Repubs tout de suite after that realization.

And I'm only a member of the Repubs because we don't have a "Le Pen" type party here, yet.

[I_Like_Plants]

I don't wish to be a Republican, it's just the lesser, slightly, of two evils.

If we'd become isolationist etc it would have been a rough ride, but we'd be in better shape for Peak Oil wouldn't we? And if we'd not spent for the war, we'd have had that $$ to use to rebuild our rail system etc.

And as for Newport Beach, I've certainly been hassled for "walking while white" and friends hassled for "driving while white" so why not? Fair's fair. I remembe during the 80s the beach there by the pier was rapidly becoming "the" place to be for um, well, blacks from LA and Long Beach. On the weekends the place was overrun, and unlike other visitors it was not just more of a crowd, it was an effort to make as much noise, verbal and loud radios, as possible. Walking while white in your own neighborhood was asking to be hassled and worse. I was women, girls really, being followed and harangued, and the language was not nice.

Well!

What happened one night was, one of the black visitors had done some sort or robbery or something, and the Newport cops were chasing him, and he ran out onto the sand on the beach. So these cops are running along over the beach sand, over/around people lying on blankets., and a visitor, apparently well-behaved, who happened to be black, sat up because all he knew were some people were running and might step on his radio. Remember how for a while they made those long, skinny, boomboxes? He picked this thing up and the cops thought it was a gun and shot him. In the stomach, unfortunately the guy lived and sued them.

The visitors stopped coming from LA and Long Beach. The area was peaceful, pleasent, and fun again. Girls born there and raised there could walk along on a peaceful Sunday without fear of rape.

Fair's fair. The guy who was shot was innocent, it was a mistake, just like I've been pursued etc by other tribes who wanted just any handy white to kill. Fair's fair. The end of the whole thing was, an invasion was stopped.

I never went to, or go to, Long Beach, and I love the NPBD.