Right now it’s about 28 degrees outside. If I had resorted to eating bugs this summer I might have put on some fat (maybe) - but what, I wonder, would I be eating this morning?
Red worm Jerky?
Bugs might be an alternative in some places but I think I’ll spend my time working on having something a little more substantial year-round.
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Insects - the food of the future? (merged)
by Pops » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 09:37:14
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
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by Doly » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 12:39:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', 'F')orgot to say : if TSHTF happen..one good way to survive could very well be eating unusual food !
Where most people will not see any food ,like a border of road with a sandy wet ground ,dandelions and grasshopper all around..You will see a land of plenty
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Where most people will not see any food ,like a border of road with a sandy wet ground ,dandelions and grasshopper all around..You will see a land of plenty
!Well, the reason most people eat cultivated stuff instead of wildlife is because wildlife isn't as good food. The most promising wildlife has been domesticated already. I don't think anybody could survive on grasshoppers, dandelions and the like.
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by seahorse2 » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 13:16:33
I also hope we don't ever, or I don't ever, have to resort to eating bugs to survive. However, reemphasize the fact that many bugs, especially grasshoppers, are known carriers of parasites that should never be eaten unless boiled. Plus, grasshoppers or any other flying jumping bug is not a good survival source of food bc it takes more energy to catch than you get by eating them, net loss, kind of like the EROI argument for PO. Stick to worms, beetles, grubs, ants etc, where you can sit your fat ass in the dirt by an old log and snack.
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by Tyler_JC » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 13:25:48
Bingo!
That's exactly the point. We used to hunt cows/boars/goats. Now we domesticate them and raise them like...cattle. Most of the stuff that is usefull to use is already being used. We don't have to eat bugs because we have other sources of food. If it comes down to eating ants, most of us wouldn't make it past that first winter. With a reduced population, we could go back to eating the normal stuff (corn, wheat, beef, apples...).
But regardless, I'M NOT EATING A GRASSHOPER. End of story. If I'm ever that starving, I would have nothing left to sell for food (except for the gun + bullet). If I had no option other than eating insects or eating the bullet, I'll save that insect for someone else.
That's exactly the point. We used to hunt cows/boars/goats. Now we domesticate them and raise them like...cattle. Most of the stuff that is usefull to use is already being used. We don't have to eat bugs because we have other sources of food. If it comes down to eating ants, most of us wouldn't make it past that first winter. With a reduced population, we could go back to eating the normal stuff (corn, wheat, beef, apples...).
But regardless, I'M NOT EATING A GRASSHOPER. End of story. If I'm ever that starving, I would have nothing left to sell for food (except for the gun + bullet). If I had no option other than eating insects or eating the bullet, I'll save that insect for someone else.
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by smallpoxgirl » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 22:04:27
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse2', 'S')tick to worms, beetles, grubs, ants etc, where you can sit your fat ass in the dirt by an old log and snack.
That was a great line!
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by marko » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 23:32:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')here is an enzyme called trehalase that is made by every human intestine. It's only job is to digest trehalose. Trehalose is a sugar that is found in only two places...mushrooms and insect blood. At some point in our history, we ate an awful lot of one or the other. I'd bet mostly insects.
Actually, most primates eat lots of grubs and insects. Humans are primates, so this is part of our genetic heritage. And as others have pointed out, some human cultures include insect consumption.
I personally have eaten fried grasshoppers. They are quite tasty. They are a typical dish in the Oaxaca region of Mexico, where they are known as chapulines. I would be quite happy to make grasshoppers a regular part of my diet. Since they are so widely consumed in Oaxaca, I think that it must be possible to farm them.
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by seahorse » Sat 26 Feb 2005, 00:05:13
Almost anything taste good fried, but if you are having to survive, you probably won't have the luxory of oils and/or breading to fry stuff. Again, if you have the time to prepare and grow stuff, why not just grow normal stuff that everyone can eat, like potatoes. Grasshoppers are very destructive to gardens, so keep that in mind. You may cultivate a disaster.
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by marko » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 00:29:29
Seahorse, the Oaxacans use only a little oil, some garlic, and some ground red chilis to fry those grasshoppers. No breading.
But I am guessing that they would be fine baked or roasted. They are basically shrimp that live on land.
Still, you are probably right that there are better things to put energy into farming.
But I am guessing that they would be fine baked or roasted. They are basically shrimp that live on land.
Still, you are probably right that there are better things to put energy into farming.
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by JBinKC » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 01:54:37
I saw a show on survival and they ate worms by purging the center and boiled them. They tasted bland and chewy according to the tasters on the show so it appears eating low carb pasta is like conditioning me to a worm..
(and believe me low carb pasta and blue cheese is my least favorite thing to eat).
Regarding grasshoppers I would worry about the potential diseases they may carry however, if they are purged, boiled, fried, then salted it probably would taste no different than a potato chip but I am sure by the time you do all that to it 3/4 of the potential nutrients are gone.
(and believe me low carb pasta and blue cheese is my least favorite thing to eat).
Regarding grasshoppers I would worry about the potential diseases they may carry however, if they are purged, boiled, fried, then salted it probably would taste no different than a potato chip but I am sure by the time you do all that to it 3/4 of the potential nutrients are gone.
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Insects - the food of future?
by Wolfeyes » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:07:23
If PO will hit and we will not have some save-a-day way to produce energy there is now way we can still breed animals (pigs,cows,chickens).It takes huge amount energy just to feed them.And if you have already bought hunting equipment - forgot about it - all eatable game will be killed out in a few months.So I think maybe we will have to get used to eat insects.They don't make much energy to produce or breed.In fact you people eat a lot of them.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')S regulations allow for 75 insect fragments per 50g of wheat flour, two maggots per 100g of tomato sauce or pizza, 20 maggots for canned mushrooms, 60 fragments per 100g of peanut butter and so on). It's estimated that the average person consumes about a kilo of insects a year.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')S regulations allow for 75 insect fragments per 50g of wheat flour, two maggots per 100g of tomato sauce or pizza, 20 maggots for canned mushrooms, 60 fragments per 100g of peanut butter and so on). It's estimated that the average person consumes about a kilo of insects a year.
Insects can be nutritious and it will be all we need.In fact they are eaten in many parts of the world.
Small grasshoppers (100g)
Protein 20.6g
Total fat 6.1g
McDonald's® hamburger (107g)
Protein 12.0g
Total fat 10.0g
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If give you a grasshopper ,a mortar ,stopwatch,10%sucrose solution,3.2pH,4.0pH,5.2pH,6.0pH,7.0pH,8.0pH buffer solution and a benedict 's solution to investigate the effect of pH on enzyme activities.What would you do ? How to carry out the experiment ?Please tell me ,thankyou very very much !
