[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'h')ttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/where-have-all-the-children-gone/594133/

A sample of some who simply doesn’t get it. Arguing against decreasing population.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', ' ') Your sustainability fantasy will never materialize since it ignores the reality of human behaviour. So, like communism, it is doomed to failure from the beginning. .

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')What my parents in the beginning said about my generation:

1) Dirty with long hair
2) Free sex and free love and orgies and women with no morals not wearing bras
3) taking LSD and other drugs
4) not conforming to norms of society
5) following religious cults and rejecting traditional religion
6) Rock and roll music corrupting their minds
7) unpatriotic and radical belief system.

Sound familiar?

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')Ambiguity about sexuality is a sign of mental disease.

[Newfie]

Every generation thinks the next generation is going to shit.

We “hippies” were gonna change the world. We did, we selected Hillary and Donald as our two choices for President.

I’m not saying there is no change in our present situation, and of course it shows up more in the new generations. It’s just they are adjusting and adapting to the world WE made.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')
We “hippies” were gonna change the world. We did, we selected Hillary and Donald as our two choices for President.

.

[EnergyUnlimited]

@Ibon,
While mentioning ambiguity I had transsexualism and "new genders" in mind.
Homosexualism as such is sufficiently prevalent to ignore, as long as not advertised to children in kindergardens and schools.
I was very early directed towards heterosexual orientation and never had MSM fantasies.
When I was 6y.o. in kindergarden, girl which was in my group offered to try something what she had found that her parents are doing.
It even have worked to a degree when we tried it. Definitely everything "fitted".

@Newfie,
You have written that "Every generation thinks the next generation is going to shit. "
Yes, however I am really convinced that we have more legitimate concerns than our ancestors had.
Destruction of intehuman relations like family, collapse of believes systems which were binding our culture up to date, narcissism associated with instagram/facebook/other social media, renegation on acquisition of knowledge, and "just want it to have it" mentality coupled with lack of gaining independence up to 30 and later are legitimate and worrying concerns.

Nevertheless in my family we have taught our children in contrarian fashion, so hopefully they are going to do well.
Particularly reassuring is fact that they will compete with retards.
One of our sons already have made a little fortune out of bitcoins but it was *me* who prompted him to gamble on crypto exchanges with larger money (and provided him capital) once I noticed that he is doing well on small sums.
I was also the one who told him when to stop and take his money off market.
Another son is now starting career in forestry.

[Newfie]

Spiked Canada

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')For proof that the woke war on common sense and decency is now completely out of control, look no further than the Canadian trans-waxing controversy. A born male who identifies as female, and whose male genitalia is still intact, is suing female-only waxers on the basis that their refusal to wax his bollocks – sorry, her bollocks – is an act of discrimination. Yes, this person believes that because he identifies as female he should therefore have access to every female service, including the most intimate female services. Any female beautician who refuses to tend to his testicles is being ‘transphobic’, apparently, because they are denying his womanhood. Even though he has a penis. And testicles. And is a man. That’s hate speech, I know.

[Newfie]

EU,

Like Ibon says look back at history and you will find all kinds of interesting stuff. I won’t iterate a list but it is king and shocking.

You are looking back only a short time, one or two generations. Human kind is uniquely flexible in all manner of things. What we identify as “normal@ behaviors really only means that you fit within the bell curve of your specific group. That group could be doing almost anything and as long as you go along and get along you are “normal.”

That doesn’t mean i like or approve of the changes that are occurring, I think we are going bat shit crazy. But neither is there any one single good standard of behavior.

The problem isn’t the kids are nuts, the problem is humanity is veering along a dangerously us course.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 't')he problem is humanity is veering along a dangerously us course.

[Newfie]

I won’t say I disagree, but I look upon it differently.

Opulence, to use your word, has left us with excess idle time, a hollow feeling that we are not making ourselves useful to the tribe. That is frightening. The incessant drum beat of Consumerism has inculcated us with the idea that to calm this fear we must consume, and in consumption we will find peace, tranquility, meaning of life, in short - happiness.

But Consumption is like eating sugar, tastes good for a few seconds but quickly wears off and leaves us hollow, and far. We are worse off for the experience. But, due to our Madison Age programming we dutifully go out and consume yet more, in endless repetition, continually growing sicker.

I don’t think there is only one correct way to explain the dysfunction in our society. I’m merely offering and addition viewpoint, in addition to, not exclusive of your valuable thoughts. We are complex creatures, distilling is to a short text message is impossible, if the task is possible at all.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')I don’t think there is only one correct way to explain the dysfunction in our society. I’m merely offering and addition viewpoint, in addition to, not exclusive of your valuable thoughts. We are complex creatures, distilling is to a short text message is impossible, if the task is possible at all.

[EnergyUnlimited]

@Newfie,
Weird things were going on here and there, but I will wade to an assertion that much of current developments are without precedent.

Woman - an obsolete concept
https://www.rt.com/uk/433733-feminists- ... sts-clash/

[Cog]

There is a lot of elitism at play in this thread. They think that there are only a few that can appreciate art, music, and the other finer arts. But socialists are very elitist, since they view the mediocre(their word) as fit only for servitude while the elite lord it over them. I've been around these elitists before and I can tell you I'd much rather share a beer with a plumber than an elitist.

[Newfie]

I’m not seeing the eliteisim on this thread. But I suppose that depends upon how you define elite. All of the USA’s founding fathers were elites. None of them had the opulence of a modern middle American. They also had a much more limited available range of thinking to draw from. They read the classics or works of near contemporaries who had read the classics.

Not all, Paine and Franklin come to mind as contra examples. Neither of them has a great body of writing. Paine today strikes me as a obsessive radical.

When writing for posterity the Founders could do exceptionally well. When writing for popular consumption in the broad sheets they could be just as narrow, petty, and politically derisive as today.

If by elite you mean the upper monied class of today, I don’t see much there to impress me.

If you mean “elite” as in the sense of a self appointed guardian of moral philosophy (better than thous) then yes, there are those around. IMHO those attitudes more likely come from a narrow reading selection, if it even raises to that paltry bar. The #metoo attitude, piling on, is a social phenomenon amongst folks who haven’t the maturity to be aware of how their internal passions and emotions can be played. They may feel the surge of Righteousness within their bosom, and be convinced by the emotion, not the conviction. Which is about the opposite of “elite” in my book.

[Cog]

The elites are those who preach "You don't know what is good for you. Let me decide that for you. Just give me power over you and you will be in a better place down the road"

[Newfie]

That casts a very wide net across party lines. Not that I’m disagreeing, just pointing out.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')here is a lot of elitism at play in this thread. They think that there are only a few that can appreciate art, music, and the other finer arts. But socialists are very elitist, since they view the mediocre(their word) as fit only for servitude while the elite lord it over them. I've been around these elitists before and I can tell you I'd much rather share a beer with a plumber than an elitist.

[Cog]

Oh I don't know. What is an intellectual really? Is my knowledge of classical philosophy, art, music, and literature make me a superior human being? I'm doubtful of the proposition. Do intellectuals despise the common man who wants nothing more than go to work and wish to be left alone? A lot of intellectuals do that very thing. I can find out more practical things by talking to experts in their field like plumbers and electricians than I've ever learned from an "intellectual".

But I digress a bit. The point was made up thread that the little people are to be serfs while the elite develop their art and music, and that any social media the little people engage in, is pointless and trivial compared to the elite who know what is best for us.

[Newfie]

Are you supporting or refuting that point?