[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Your post did not merit anything more than a one word response when you just throw out this tired meme of scorched and lifeless earth.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Use your brain instead of regurgitating bullshit.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', 'I') mean, why take all the fun out of it now?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Let's assume with all humility that we all choose a different flavor of delusion here, if this be the case then ask yourself why your choice sees your planet so dark and lifeless? What are the deeper underlying reasons for arriving at such a conclusion?

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Let's assume with all humility that we all choose a different flavor of delusion here, if this be the case then ask yourself why your choice sees your planet so dark and lifeless? What are the deeper underlying reasons for arriving at such a conclusion?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Let's assume with all humility that we all choose a different flavor of delusion here, if this be the case then ask yourself why your choice sees your planet so dark and lifeless? What are the deeper underlying reasons for arriving at such a conclusion?

[Ibon]

If you can't laugh at wackadoodle humanity your going to get fucked up in the head. They populate vast areas of the human landscape , I would not characterize this site as particularly concentrated with whackadoodles.

Humor is a key component to adapting to a world where peoples delusions trump reality.

I don't pretend to have a handle on the mental gyrations Kudzu Apes will display as we approach the bottlenecks.

I have a much better handle on the integrity
of natural ecosystems and their ability to adapt to climate change.....

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I')f you can't laugh at wackadoodle humanity your going to get fucked up in the head.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')
Including the people?

[gollum]

I'm still a hard core peaker. We've gotten very lucky the past few years with a lot of the extraction advances but no more oil exists than did before, we simply became better at emptying the barrel. In the end the peak and decline are probably pushed back a decade or two. Were we able to see past the end of our noses we'd be taking this gift and running with it by coming up with viable plans of what we'll do after oil peaks, we clearly aren't. Fortunately for me I most likely have another decade to pay off my last debts and do what I can to make my lifestyle as sustainable as possible.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I')'m still a hard core peaker. We've gotten very lucky the past few years with a lot of the extraction advances but no more oil exists than did before, we simply became better at emptying the barrel. In the end the peak and decline are probably pushed back a decade or two. Were we able to see past the end of our noses we'd be taking this gift and running with it by coming up with viable plans of what we'll do after oil peaks, we clearly aren't. Fortunately for me I most likely have another decade to pay off my last debts and do what I can to make my lifestyle as sustainable as possible.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I')'m still a hard core peaker. We've gotten very lucky the past few years with a lot of the extraction advances but no more oil exists than did before, we simply became better at emptying the barrel.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I')'m still a hard core peaker. We've gotten very lucky the past few years with a lot of the extraction advances but no more oil exists than did before, we simply became better at emptying the barrel.

[Newfie]

That’s about it, its not whether we will run out or not, depletion is certain.

The argument is really about how long we can string it out before the collapse. It’s a disagreement about adaptation, mitigation and time frames.

Those that insist it will happen at X date are on slippery soil. But just because it haven’t happens on X date does not mean it won’t happen. Or that something else will happen first, like a global financial collapse. Peak Trust.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I')'m still a hard core peaker. We've gotten very lucky the past few years with a lot of the extraction advances but no more oil exists than did before, we simply became better at emptying the barrel.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')hat’s about it, its not whether we will run out or not, depletion is certain.

The argument is really about how long we can string it out before the collapse. It’s a disagreement about adaptation, mitigation and time frames.

Those that insist it will happen at X date are on slippery soil. But just because it haven’t happens on X date does not mean it won’t happen. Or that something else will happen first, like a global financial collapse. Peak Trust.

[obixman]

Well, I'm still here... although not as often,. The last year I've had to battle c diff, a massive pulmanary embolism, and colon cancer (simultaneously) followed by chemotherapy (ugh). Now that I am getting better, I'm paying more attention to things.

In the last two decades we've gotten improved extraction techniques, which has pushed back doomsday 2 decades or so. With hybrids and electric cars, we've maybe gained another 5 years or so......

What we haven't done is produced any more hydrocarbons.

Meanwhile, CO2 seems to be inducing climate modification. This will not cause the extinction of our species, but will cause severe stress on and may eliminate advanced civilization. Solar and wind will help with this but probably not prevent it.

It looks as if the climate change issues will occur faster then peak oil. Peak oil is still there, but we probably won't reach it before we have more reading issues. Just based on my recent medical history, you deal with what kills you quickest first.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('obixman', '
')What we haven't done is produced any more hydrocarbons.

[gollum]

So maybe by 2050 both arrive at once... does anyone have any understanding that if that’s the case mitigation efforts have to happen now in order to be effective? Once the peak arrives there won’t be the resources available to reorganize for a society without oil.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'S')o maybe by 2050 both arrive at once... does anyone have any understanding that if that’s the case mitigation efforts have to happen now in order to be effective?